Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Colin Crow]

Here are the most current COVID-19 stats for Virginia, my state of residence, the 12th most populated state (8.5 million). These stats are further evidence that a one-size-fits-all lockdown approach is not justified, and that there is no rational reason to keep our schools closed. Let’s look at the numbers by age group from the VA Department of Health’s website.

All Ages
Cases: 208,833
Deaths: 3,860
Death Rate: 1.86%
Survival Rate: 98.14%

Ages 0-9
Cases: 7,784
Deaths: 0
Death Rate: 0.0%
Survival Rate: 100%

Ages 10-19
Cases: 21,297
Deaths: 1
Death Rate: 0.0047% (far below the flu’s death rate of 0.15% to 0.25%)
Survival Rate: 99.9953%

Ages 20-29
Cases: 43,006
Deaths: 9
Death Rate: 0.021% (about 8-9 times *lower* than the flu’s death rate)
Survival Rate: 99.979%

Ages 30-39
Cases: 34,916
Deaths: 39
Death Rate: 0.026% (about 8 times *lower* than the flu’s death rate)
Survival Rate: 99.974%

Ages 40-49
Cases: 31,566
Deaths: 96
Death Rate: 0.305% (3.3 times *lower* than 1%)
Survival Rate: 99.695%

Ages 50-59
Cases: 29,335
Deaths: 271
Death Rate: 0.925% (still lower than 1%)
Survival Rate: 99.075%

Ages 60-69
Cases: 19,516
Deaths: 603
Death Rate: 3.1%
Survival Rate: 96.9%

Ages 70-79
Cases: 10,728
Deaths: 986
Death Rate: 9.2%
Survival Rate: 90.8%

Ages 80 and above
Cases: 8,997
Deaths: 1,848
Death Rate: 20.55%
Survival Rate: 79.45%

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/coronavirus/covid-19-in-virginia-demographics/

What age category (ies) would you "protect" in your model? What restrictions would you place on them? How would you protect them?

[Colin Crow]

[John Tonkovich]

Here are the most current COVID-19 stats for Virginia, my state of residence, the 12th most populated state (8.5 million). These stats are further evidence that a one-size-fits-all lockdown approach is not justified, and that there is no rational reason to keep our schools closed. Let’s look at the numbers by age group from the VA Department of Health’s website.

All Ages
Cases: 208,833
Deaths: 3,860
Death Rate: 1.86%
Survival Rate: 98.14%

Ages 0-9
Cases: 7,784
Deaths: 0
Death Rate: 0.0%
Survival Rate: 100%

Ages 10-19
Cases: 21,297
Deaths: 1
Death Rate: 0.0047% (far below the flu’s death rate of 0.15% to 0.25%)
Survival Rate: 99.9953%

Ages 20-29
Cases: 43,006
Deaths: 9
Death Rate: 0.021% (about 8-9 times *lower* than the flu’s death rate)
Survival Rate: 99.979%

Ages 30-39
Cases: 34,916
Deaths: 39
Death Rate: 0.026% (about 8 times *lower* than the flu’s death rate)
Survival Rate: 99.974%

Ages 40-49
Cases: 31,566
Deaths: 96
Death Rate: 0.305% (3.3 times *lower* than 1%)
Survival Rate: 99.695%

Ages 50-59
Cases: 29,335
Deaths: 271
Death Rate: 0.925% (still lower than 1%)
Survival Rate: 99.075%

Ages 60-69
Cases: 19,516
Deaths: 603
Death Rate: 3.1%
Survival Rate: 96.9%

Ages 70-79
Cases: 10,728
Deaths: 986
Death Rate: 9.2%
Survival Rate: 90.8%

Ages 80 and above
Cases: 8,997
Deaths: 1,848
Death Rate: 20.55%
Survival Rate: 79.45%

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/coronavirus/covid-19-in-virginia-demographics/

What about hospitalization rates?
What about long term damage to survivors?

[Richard Smith]

Donald Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine he called COVID-19 a hoax and will be prison.

Every medical expert says masks will save lives and if everybody wore a mask we could contain the virus in 8 weeks.

More ignorance for you.

That is simply a bald face lie about the vaccine.  I see you are still encouraging a "lock him up" mentality.  Something dems cried about for years when applied to Crooked Hillary as something that is done only in a banana republic by dictators.  No hypocrisy there.  If masks are so effective, then why are the number of cases now soaring in those states that have had a mask mandated for months?  Apply some actual logic to this issue.  Wouldn't the numbers be going down in those states instead of skyrocketing?  Wouldn't they be at least lower than when no one was wearing a mask?  Try thinking for yourself for once instead of just cutting and pasting endless reams of information like someone in the midst of a bizarre compulsion disorder.

[Jack Trojan]

That is simply a bald face lie about the vaccine.  I see you are still encouraging a "lock him up" mentality.  Something dems cried about for years when applied to Crooked Hillary as something that is done only in a banana republic by dictators.  No hypocrisy there.  If masks are so effective, then why are the number of cases now soaring in those states that have had a mask mandated for months?  Apply some actual logic to this issue.  Wouldn't the numbers be going down in those states instead of skyrocketing?  Wouldn't they be at least lower than when no one was wearing a mask?  Try thinking for yourself for once instead of just cutting and pasting endless reams of information like someone in the midst of a bizarre compulsion disorder.

Wouldn't the numbers be going down in those states instead of skyrocketing?  Wouldn't they be at least lower than when no one was wearing a mask?

Your ignorance precedes you. If everyone wore a leak-proof mask for 1 month the virus would go away. The problem is that retards like you buck the mandate to wear a mask. Stupidity trumps science when dumbasses are running the show.

Like I said from the get go, the only ones dumber than Drumpf are his base of idiots.

[Richard Smith]

Wouldn't the numbers be going down in those states instead of skyrocketing?  Wouldn't they be at least lower than when no one was wearing a mask?

Your ignorance precedes you. If everyone wore a leak-proof mask for 1 month the virus would go away. The problem is that retards like you buck the mandate to wear a mask. Stupidity trumps science when dumbasses are running the show.

Like I said from the get go, the only ones dumber than Drumpf are his base of idiots.

In which you have proved my point.  Good job.  I couldn't have done it better.  People are obviously not wearing "leak proof" masks because there is no such thing.  So mask mandates are not working and never will.  In fact, the number of cases is sky rocketing as more people have worn masks.  If anything, they are giving people a false sense of security by politicians who overstated their effectiveness.  Thus, putting them at greater risk by thinking they are safe to go about as usual.  You have been sold a load of bull by Old Joe and company.  This virus is going nowhere until there is a vaccine.  Fortunately, we have a President who is about results and the vaccine has been developed in record time.  A couple more weeks and the distribution will begin.   A miracle.  Old Joe will still be waving his mask around and making false claims about it while Trump has solved the problem.

[Martin Weidmann]

In which you have proved my point.  Good job.  I couldn't have done it better.  People are obviously not wearing "leak proof" masks because there is no such thing.  So mask mandates are not working and never will.  In fact, the number of cases is sky rocketing as more people have worn masks.  If anything, they are giving people a false sense of security by politicians who overstated their effectiveness.  Thus, putting them at greater risk by thinking they are safe to go about as usual.  You have been sold a load of bull by Old Joe and company.  This virus is going nowhere until there is a vaccine.  Fortunately, we have a President who is about results and the vaccine has been developed in record time.  A couple more weeks and the distribution will begin.   A miracle.  Old Joe will still be waving his mask around and making false claims about it while Trump has solved the problem.

You purposely missed the most important part of Jack's comment;

"If everyone wore a leak-proof mask for 1 month the virus would go away."

Even if a mask isn't 100% leak-proof it still stops a lot more germs coming out of your mouth than no mask at all!

The remainder of your post is so delusional that it requires no response.

[Jack Trojan]

In which you have proved my point.  Good job.  I couldn't have done it better.  People are obviously not wearing "leak proof" masks because there is no such thing.  So mask mandates are not working and never will.  In fact, the number of cases is sky rocketing as more people have worn masks.  If anything, they are giving people a false sense of security by politicians who overstated their effectiveness.  Thus, putting them at greater risk by thinking they are safe to go about as usual.  You have been sold a load of bull by Old Joe and company.  This virus is going nowhere until there is a vaccine.  Fortunately, we have a President who is about results and the vaccine has been developed in record time.  A couple more weeks and the distribution will begin.   A miracle.  Old Joe will still be waving his mask around and making false claims about it while Trump has solved the problem.

N95 masks are 95% effective. A standard surgical mask is 85% effective. The average efficacy of a face covering is 70%. These numbers are based on world averages. You thought this was just a US thing, didn't you?

Take Germany, for example. They are doing middle of the road when it comes to the death rate per capita. They have 83,884,266 people and 13,674 people are dead from COVID. The US has roughly 4 times the population of Germany so at their death rate 54,696 people would be dead from COVID instead of 1/4 million. That's 200,000 deaths directly attributable to Heir Drumpf's "anti-mask" policy. This will be his legacy. #45: Donny "The Butcher" Drumpf. You Trumptards are such suckers.

An Israeli company called Sonovia https://24x7mag.com/standards/safety/hospital-safety/sonovia-masks-neutralize-over-99-percent-covid-19/ offers a face mask that they claim is 99.35% effective at filtering out the COVID-19 virus. The porous matrix allows you to breathe freely through it and since it's impregnated, zinc is not inhaled by the wearer. The mask is available on Amazon for approximately $50/mask, which should last until vaccines are available. Fill your boots.