Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Martin Weidmann]

Do tell?  The only people that I've seen questioning the safety of the vaccine are people like Kantala Harris and other radical dems that have used the virus for political purposes.  It only becomes safe after Jan. 20.

It only becomes safe after Jan. 20.

Yeah sure, just like nobody would be talking about Covid-19 on November 4th....

[Martin Weidmann]

So many outrageous lies.  NY has had nearly 35K deaths!  The highest by far among any state.  The virus is out of control there.  They just closed their schools.  It is the single most ineptly governed state in the country.  And that is saying a lot with California.  Highest number of deaths while crushing the local economy with arbitrary and ineffective lockdowns.  People are fleeing NY in droves.   Great leadership if you are in the funeral business.

Complete BS... You really need to get some other sources of information because Fox, OAN and Newsmax are just feeding you propaganda, not news....

But it's interesting to see you operate. It's the first time I have come across somebody who is so thoroughly brainwashed as you....

[Richard Smith]

I know you wanted people to continue to suffer and die until Jan. 20 to promote your own political hatred but it's not going to happen.   

You are truly a sick puppy. If there is anybody who is willing to let people continue to suffer and die, it's the idiot now in the White House who is refusing to participate in the transition.

An honest person would acknowledge the Trump administration's efforts to encourage the development of an effective vaccine in record time.  Even the NY Times had done that.  It is an amazing accomplishment.  No one thought it possible.  Trump was pushing that effort from the very beginning.  So give credit where credit is due.  If not, then you are politicizing the deaths of people due to your own obvious bias. 

[Richard Smith]

Complete BS... You really need to get some other sources of information because Fox, OAN and Newsmax are just feeding you propaganda, not news....

But it's interesting to see you operate. It's the first time I have come across somebody who is so thoroughly brainwashed as you....

How about being specific?  Does NY not have the highest number of deaths from the virus?  Did they not just close the schools there because the virus is out of control? These are just facts that can be confirmed from multiple sources.  I don't follow what is BS.

[Martin Weidmann]

An honest person would acknowledge the Trump administration's efforts to encourage the development of an effective vaccine in record time.  Even the NY Times had done that.  It is an amazing accomplishment.  No one thought it possible.  Trump was pushing that effort from the very beginning.  So give credit where credit is due.  If not, then you are politicizing the deaths of people due to your own obvious bias.

An honest person would acknowledge the Trump administration's efforts to encourage the development of an effective vaccine in record time.  Even the NY Times had done that.  It is an amazing accomplishment.

Trump wasn't the only one who encouraged the development of a vaccine in record time. In Europe most administrations did exactly the same. And the accomplishment isn't Trump's, it's the experts who actually did the work.

Trump was pushing that effort from the very beginning.  So give credit where credit is due.  If not, then you are politicizing the deaths of people due to your own obvious bias. 

The credit is due to the professional who actually developed the vaccines. It is completely pathetic to say that not letting Trump take credit for the work of others equals politicizing the deaths of people.

You are trying to re-write history in favor of Trump.

[Richard Smith]

An honest person would acknowledge the Trump administration's efforts to encourage the development of an effective vaccine in record time.  Even the NY Times had done that.  It is an amazing accomplishment.

Trump wasn't the only one who encouraged the development of a vaccine in record time. In Europe most administrations did exactly the same. And the accomplishment isn't Trump's, it's the experts who actually did the work.

Trump was pushing that effort from the very beginning.  So give credit where credit is due.  If not, then you are politicizing the deaths of people due to your own obvious bias. 

The credit is due to the professional who actually developed the vaccines. It is completely pathetic to say that not letting Trump take credit for the work of others equals politicizing the deaths of people.

You are trying to re-write history in favor of Trump.

You don't seem to have any issue blaming him for the virus.  So at least be fair and acknowledge that he has facilitated the rapid development of a vaccine.  Trump is obvious not a scientist who goes down into the lab you dunce.  He is the President.  And he used his position to facilitate the development of the vaccine to the best of his ability. 

[Martin Weidmann]

You don't seem to have any issue blaming him for the virus.  So at least be fair and acknowledge that he has facilitated the rapid development of a vaccine.  Trump is obvious not a scientist who goes down into the lab you dunce.  He is the President.  And he used his position to facilitate the development of the vaccine to the best of his ability.

You don't seem to have any issue blaming him for the virus.

I don't blame him for the virus. I do blame him for the way he responded to the virus.

So at least be fair and acknowledge that he has facilitated the rapid development of a vaccine.

I have no problem to acknowledge that. Making the development and testing process easier is always a good thing. But, again, he wasn't the only one. Several European leaders did the same. They don't need praise... it's part of the job!

He is the President.  And he used his position to facilitate the development of the vaccine to the best of his ability.

Sure, but that doesn't mean he gets to take the credit for the development of the vaccine. For once, he did his job!

[Colin Crow]

Do tell?  The only people that I've seen questioning the safety of the vaccine are people like Kantala Harris and other radical dems that have used the virus for political purposes.  It only becomes safe after Jan. 20.

Without getting into the association between Trump, Qannon and antivaxers.....I can find some info if you are unaware.

"Even before the announcements made by Pfizer and BioNTech on Nov. 9 and by Moderna on Nov. 16 about the development of highly effective vaccines for COVID-19, Americans were already more willing to get a vaccine than they were in September. The recent increase is primarily due to a jump in willingness among Democrats.

"However, Americans overall are still less likely than they were earlier this year to say they'd get a COVID-19 vaccine. Four in 10 remain unwilling to get a vaccine, indicating public health officials face an uphill climb in convincing a good share of the public to do so.

A longer period of development and clinical testing may help to address three of the four most common reasons for hesitancy among those who are unwilling. However, convincing the 12% of Americans who refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine due to a general distrust of vaccines may prove more difficult."

https://news.gallup.com/poll/325208/americans-willing-covid-vaccine.aspx

Part of the distrust was the notion that Trump was pushing the vaccine to be released before safety tetsting was complete for political reasons....cf. HCQ etc.