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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2520 on: November 21, 2020, 12:55:52 AM »
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2521 on: November 21, 2020, 01:00:11 AM »
For Michael Griffith. I’m not sure he reads anything from me because I never seem to get any meaningful reply. I live in hope.

This article is in reference to his frequent use of the Swedish model for dealing with Covid it’s from "The Times".

Sweden realises that it’s not a nation apart after all

"Alarm is rising in Sweden that its light touch approach to Covid-19 has failed as its per capita infection rate rises above Britain’s, with the number of hospital admissions almost doubling each week.

“The situation is serious,” Goran Hansson, a cardiology professor at the Karolinska Institute and head of the Swedish Royal Academy of Sciences, said. “Intensive care units are not at maximum capacity but may become full soon if the trend is not broken.”

Since the start of the pandemic the Swedish “experiment” has raised profound questions about the best way to overcome the disease and the nature of the state’s duties to its citizens. Critics of Anders Tegnell, the state epidemiologist in charge of the response, and his advisers believe it is finally clear that Sweden has paid too high a price for too few tangible results. Sweden alone did not impose a lockdown or establish a national contact tracing system for months. It did not recommend the use of face masks, even in hospitals, or stop people visiting their relatives in care homes until the start of April.

What it did do was close universities and sixth-form colleges; ban events involving more than 50 people; and advise the population to practise hygiene and social distancing – to work from home, wash their hands and to isolate themselves if they felt ill.

By late summer cases were so low that Kim Sneppen, a Danish biostatistician, who had published a paper on Sweden’s coronavirus policies, told a newspaper that the pandemic “may be finished” in the country. Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of Tesla, tweeted: “Sweden was right.”

Yet in the second wave infection rates are high even in thinly populated areas.
Stefan Lofven, the prime minister, said compliance with public health recommendations had fallen markedly since the spring. Cecilia Soderberg-Naucler, a virology professor at Karolinska Institute, said: “We had to get into deep spombleprofglidnoctobuns before people sharpened up. There’s a lot of egoistic behaviour and not thinking about friends and family members.”

Now, all but one of Sweden’s 21 regions are in voluntary lockdown with residents urged to cut social contact by avoiding public transport or travelling out of their area.
From SaPersonay pubs and restaurants will be banned from selling alcohol after 10pm. Public gatherings will be limited to eight people.

Sweden’s GDP is expected to fall by 3.4 per cent in 2020, compared with Denmark at – 3.9 per cent and Finland at -4.3 per cent.

Professor Anders Vahlne, who sits on the steering committee for Vetenskapsforum Covid-19, an organisation calling for tougher measures, said: “[The strategy] was a big failure. We are reporting as many deaths as we did in the spring. There is a nationalistic pride that’s been hurt.”
Sweden’s belief in itself as a country apart, in which gentle guidance is preferable to hard rules, is being tested.
“We’re not going to be the same people [after] this,” Professor Soderberg- Naucler said. “We’ve had some kind of view that we know better than others and of course we don’t. We are all equal before this virus.”

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2522 on: November 21, 2020, 01:06:15 AM »
So many outrageous lies.  NY has had nearly 35K deaths!  The highest by far among any state.  The virus is out of control there.  They just closed their schools.  It is the single most ineptly governed state in the country.  And that is saying a lot with California.  Highest number of deaths while crushing the local economy with arbitrary and ineffective lockdowns.  People are fleeing NY in droves.   Great leadership if you are in the funeral business.

:D :D :D

No lies at all. New York has a massive population and is the main hub in the United States so it's expected a virus will overtake a highly populated area. Cuomo with his strong leadership was able to combat the virus and lower the infection and death rate. Right wing states like Texas and Florida are out of control with COVID and the disastrous numbers speak for themselves. The rest of what you wrote is right wing propaganda nonsense.

Today's COVID numbers

Texas 11,543 new infections...180 deaths
Florida 9,085 new infections...76 deaths

New York 2,478 new infections....50 deaths

The numbers speak for themselves....Red states that do nothing are a disaster.

Donnie Jr caught the "hoax" by not wearing a mask.       

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2523 on: November 21, 2020, 01:08:15 AM »
An honest person would acknowledge the Trump administration's efforts to encourage the development of an effective vaccine in record time.  Even the NY Times had done that.  It is an amazing accomplishment.  No one thought it possible.  Trump was pushing that effort from the very beginning.  So give credit where credit is due.  If not, then you are politicizing the deaths of people due to your own obvious bias.

Donald Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine. The drugmakers said so. Keep spouting propaganda.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2524 on: November 21, 2020, 01:21:21 AM »
Donald Trump lost badly again today with his attempted coup farce of stealing the election.

Georgia certified their votes confirming Joe Biden won the state. Donald Trump melted down demanding another recount. This old man is a clown. 

Then even Michigan's Republican legislatures that Trump flew to the White House trying to illegally hand him electoral votes he didn't win threw a wet blanket on his scheme telling him it's over:

"We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan and as leg leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors.”

They know there is no fraud and are not stupid to put themselves in criminal liability for a fraud who is about to be indicted himself in a few weeks.

Congressman Bill Pascrell Jr. is seeking to get Rudy Giuliani disbarred. He should do the same for Trump stooge Jenna Ellis who is a traitor and a disgrace to our country.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2525 on: November 21, 2020, 01:43:50 AM »
:D :D :D

No lies at all. New York has a massive population and is the main hub in the United States so it's expected a virus will overtake a highly populated area. Cuomo with his strong leadership was able to combat the virus and lower the infection and death rate. Right wing states like Texas and Florida are out of control with COVID and the disastrous numbers speak for themselves. The rest of what you wrote is right wing propaganda nonsense.

Today's COVID numbers

Texas 11,543 new infections...180 deaths
Florida 9,085 new infections...76 deaths

New York 2,478 new infections....50 deaths

The numbers speak for themselves....Red states that do nothing are a disaster.

Donnie Jr caught the "hoax" by not wearing a mask.       

NY has approximately 35,000 deaths.  No other state has more than 20,000.  NY, Cal, and PA have had mask mandates for months.  And the virus is at record high levels in those states.  They were sold a bill of goods on lockdowns and masks in an effort to influence the election.   They haven't worked.  They only thing that will ever work is the Trump Vaccine.  Coming soon.  Bend over and take it like a man.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2526 on: November 21, 2020, 01:45:06 AM »
That is simply a bald face lie about the vaccine.  I see you are still encouraging a "lock him up" mentality.  Something dems cried about for years when applied to Crooked Hillary as something that is done only in a banana republic by dictators.  No hypocrisy there.  If masks are so effective, then why are the number of cases now soaring in those states that have had a mask mandated for months?  Apply some actual logic to this issue.  Wouldn't the numbers be going down in those states instead of skyrocketing?  Wouldn't they be at least lower than when no one was wearing a mask?  Try thinking for yourself for once instead of just cutting and pasting endless reams of information like someone in the midst of a bizarre compulsion disorder.

It's called Law and Order, something right wingers cry about. But apparently they feel it doesn't apply to their own.   

Donald Trump is a career criminal who has committed crimes in New York and also did in the White House. The only reason he hasn't been indicted yet is because of the "so called DOJ policy" (which isn't even relevant) that a "sitting President can't be indicted". That will change on Jan. 20th when Donald Trump is a private citizen and can't pardon state crimes. New York will most likely lock him up.

Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong and right wingers used a vicious smear campaign against her to damage her reputation. Countless investigations found nothing. It was all right wing projection. They projected Donald Trump's crimes on to Clinton accusing her of being the criminal when it was their orange lunatic that's the criminal.

COVID Cases are up because right wingers in those states refuse to wear masks and social distance spreading the virus. Also, they opened up restaurants and schools where it's the worst place to contract COVID. That's what right wingers were demanding and because of that Covid is increasing.

Red States that did nothing are a disaster and I've already showed you the numbers.

The drugmakers said Donald Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine.

You're showing your ignorance again.  Thumb1:

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2527 on: November 21, 2020, 01:47:23 AM »
NY has approximately 35,000 deaths.  No other state has more than 20,000.  NY, Cal, and PA have had mask mandates for months.  And the virus is at record high levels in those states.  They were sold a bill of goods on lockdowns and masks in an effort to influence the election.   They haven't worked.  They only thing that will ever work is the Trump Vaccine.  Coming soon.  Bend over and take it like a man.

 :D :D :D

Your bogus disinformation is hilarious. I've showed you the numbers. That's what you want with election loser Donald Trump.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2527 on: November 21, 2020, 01:47:23 AM »