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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2560 on: November 23, 2020, 05:15:30 PM »
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The Moderna vaccine is a product of Operation Warp Speed.  How about you not take the Trump vaccine and let Darwinism run its course?

LOL Are you suggesting the Moderna vaccine wouldn't exist if not for Drumpf? What did he do besides throw some taxpayer money at it and named it Operation Warp Speed? And how did he know that 3 vaccines would be developed independently in record time? Only Xi knew a vaccine could be developed at warp speed, not Moderna, Pfizer or AstraZeneca. Don't you find that incredibly suspicious? Isn't it more likely that COVID-19 was a well known (by China) designer virus? China probably already had their own vaccine for it but they had to keep it on the QT. It doesn't mean they intended to use it as a bio-weapon, but they couldn't admit to creating it since Drumpf was already accusing China of weaponizing it so he would lose the election.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2561 on: November 24, 2020, 06:20:55 AM »
When the Dems were advocating that people come down to Chinatown and NYC for events, Trump was advocating a vaccine.  He has done so from day one while Old Joe waved a mask around and falsely claimed it was the solution.  Trump set in motion the full powers of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a vaccine.  It is coming in a few weeks.  If any democrat had done that, the media would be weeping with joy and praise.  Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.  History is going to treat this event a lot differently than CNN.

 :D :D :D

Bogus propaganda.

The events were in early February BEFORE Donald Trump reluctantly declared an National Emergency. A couple of weeks later, Donald Trump called COVID-19 a hoax. Donald Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine.     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2562 on: November 24, 2020, 06:26:28 AM »
I hate to be the bearer of more good news about COVID-19, since I know liberals prefer to wallow in baseless panic over the virus, but here are more numbers that prove that the virus poses a minimal risk to most Americans.

If New York City (NYC), with its population of 8.4 million, were a state, it would be the 13th most populated state and the most densely populated state in the country. So let us look at NYC’s COVID-19 numbers to see if they tell us anything about how we should be responding to the virus. NYC’s numbers are further proof that one-size-fits-all lockdowns are unscientific and unjustified.

The age groups are the groups used by NYC’s health department. Also, NYC’s health department does its case numbers and its age-group case and death rates in increments of the rate per 100,000 people, but you’ll still easily get the picture.

All Ages
Cases: 277,558
Deaths: 24,202
Death rate: 8.72%
Survival Rate: 91.28%

Ages 0-17
Cases: 2,564 per 100,000
Deaths: 19
Death rate: 1.1 per 100,000
Survival rate: 99,999.9 per 100,000

Ages 18-24
Cases: 2,790 per 100,000
Deaths: 44
Death rate: 2.49 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,997.51 per 100,000

Ages 25-34
Cases: 3,242 per 100,000
Deaths: 228
Death rate: 12.94 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,987.06 per 100,000

Ages 35-44
Cases: 3,841 per 100,000
Deaths: 623
Death rate: 46.09 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,953.91 per 100,000

Ages 45-54
Cases: 4,483 per 100,000
Deaths: 1,618
Death rate: 126.93 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,873.07 per 100,000

Ages 55-64
Cases: 4,483 per 100,000
Deaths: 3,756
Death rate: 306.43 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,693.57 per 100,000

Ages 65-74
Cases: 4,275 per 100,000
Deaths: 5,805
Death rate: 670.01 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,329.99 per 100,000

Ages 75-100
Cases: 4,956 per 100,000
Deaths: 12,092
Death rate: 1,705.45 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 98,294.55 per 100,000

Notice that ages 65-74 and 75-100 account for 17,897 of NYC’s 24,202 COVID-19 deaths, or 73.95% of those deaths. So why are we not focusing our restrictions on those two age groups instead of imposing them on everyone? Why are we closing schools when children are far less likely to die from COVID-19 than they are from the common flu? We don’t close schools during flu season, so why should we close them because of COVID-19 when the risk from COVID-19 is far lower than the risk from the flu? If there are teachers in their sixties, they can take extra precautions when they’re around students or other teachers.

Notice also that NYC’s numbers debunk the myth that teens and college-aged kids are “super spreaders.” The super spreaders are people aged 45-100. People aged 0-24 are far less likely to catch the virus than older groups and therefore are the age group that is least likely to spread the virus. You can’t spread it if you don’t have it.

If you want to confirm the above numbers, here’s the link to the NYC health department’s website:

COVID-19: Data Totals - NYC Health

The disinformation artist Michael T. Griffith strikes again! Texas is a COVID-19 disaster. They currently have more infections, deaths, and hospitalizations than New York.       

Dallas County reports 1,862 coronavirus cases, 1 death; Tarrant reports 1,537 cases, 6 deaths
There are 8,174 COVID-19 patients in Texas hospitals, including 2,301 in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/11/22/texas-reports-8554-cases-89-deaths-tarrant-county-reports-1537-coronavirus-cases/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2563 on: November 24, 2020, 06:28:57 AM »
Gosh, imagine that! A President taking credit for something that happened on his watch, something that he strongly urged and encouraged, and something that he facilitated by ordering the FDA to wave most of the senseless regulations that usually delay a drug's development and distribution by 1-5 years! Scandal! "Narcissism"!

He's never said he's the one who developed the vaccines, only that he deserves credit for pushing along the process, an entirely valid point.

And let's remember that when Trump said in October that a vaccine was just about ready and would be distributed early next year, Biden and Harris and other Democrats mocked, scoffed, and howled.

Donald Trump always takes credit for things he had nothing to do with just like Obama-Biden's economy that was the greatest on record before Donald Trump destroyed it with his bogus Chinese tariffs and COVID-19 disaster. He had nothing to do with the vaccine because the drug companies said so.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2564 on: November 24, 2020, 06:33:05 AM »
When the Dems were advocating that people come down to Chinatown and NYC for events, Trump was advocating a vaccine.  He has done so from day one while Old Joe waved a mask around and falsely claimed it was the solution.  Trump set in motion the full powers of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a vaccine.  It is coming in a few weeks.  If any democrat had done that, the media would be weeping with joy and praise.  Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.  History is going to treat this event a lot differently than CNN.

 :D :D :D

Donald Trump was promoting quack cures like Hydroxychloroquine and injecting bleach that his idiot cult was claiming was a "game changer". He had nothing to do with the vaccine.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2565 on: November 24, 2020, 06:39:22 AM »
Russian stooge Donald Trump selling out America one again to Putin before he leaves office in disgrace.

Trump Exits Open Skies Treaty, Moves to Discard Observation Planes
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-exits-open-skies-treaty-moves-to-discard-observation-planes-11606055371

Trump quits treaty allowing US to fly reconnaissance missions over Russia – will destroy planes

Donald Trump on Sunday formally exited the Open Skies Treaty, but now he’s moving to scrap the planes, ensuring President Joe Biden will not be able to re-enter the program easily.

The Open Skies Treaty is an 18-year old agreement designed to allow the U.S. to fly reconnaissance  missions over Russia to ensure the Pentagon and the President are informed of military deployments and movements. First proposed in 1992, the treaty was formalized in 2002. 34 nations are party to the agreement, and all are allowed to fly unarmed aircraft over any member nation. The goal is to ensure transparency and mutual understanding.

Russians thrilled with Trump plan to pull out of Open Skies Treaty — and plan to take advantage of it: report
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/russians-thrilled-with-trump-plan-to-withdraw-from-treaty-and-plan-to-take-advantage-of-it-report/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2566 on: November 24, 2020, 07:14:13 AM »
Right wingers cry over mask mandates, but here is South Dakota, that doesn't have a mask mandate and you can easily see the disastrous results because of idiot Trump stooge Governor Kristi Noem.

South Dakota gripped by pandemic amid Kristi Noem's no-mask approach

State has alarming Covid positivity rate of almost 60% and governor’s hands-off policy, including being the only state without a mask mandate, is having dire consequences

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/23/south-dakota-gripped-by-pandemic-amid-kristi-noem-no-mask-approach

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2567 on: November 24, 2020, 02:30:29 PM »
Right wingers cry over mask mandates, but here is South Dakota, that doesn't have a mask mandate and you can easily see the disastrous results because of idiot Trump stooge Governor Kristi Noem.

South Dakota gripped by pandemic amid Kristi Noem's no-mask approach

State has alarming Covid positivity rate of almost 60% and governor’s hands-off policy, including being the only state without a mask mandate, is having dire consequences

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/23/south-dakota-gripped-by-pandemic-amid-kristi-noem-no-mask-approach

Almost every state is at a record high level of cases.  There is no discernable difference between those states with a mask mandate and those without.  If the masks were as effective as touted by Old Joe, then the case numbers would not be skyrocketing in places like NY, Cal and PA where mask mandates have been in place for months.  It is just common sense.  The mask is not the solution.  That myth was a politically driven exaggeration due to Trump's reluctance to wear one.  In fact, if masks are giving people a false sense of security to go about their lives as normal, they may actually be contributing to the rising case numbers by encouraging them to out into public areas.  The Trump vaccine is the only solution.  It is coming soon.  And so is 2024.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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