Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Rick Plant]

Here's an excellent chart that shows how Cuomo got COVID-19 under control in New York after Donald Trump refused to do his job and save American lives preparing us for this deadly pandemic. You can easily see the bulk of COVID-19 deaths occurred at the initial outbreak in March and April then began to taper off as mask mandates along with stay at home orders were implemented. No surprise as soon as it was business as usual again, we saw spikes occur in deaths, hospitalizations, and infections. That's what Republicans were demanding, so once again, the recent COVID explosion is all on them.

What do we take from this? Failed and neglectful GOP lack of leadership caused massive death, infections, and hospitalizations. Mask mandates and stay at home orders significantly reduced the number of deaths and new infections.

These are the facts and don't let any right wing propagandist try to tell you otherwise.


New York state COVID-19 Monthly Death Chart

[Rick Plant]

Obama DID appoint a justice per his constitutional role.  The Senate did not confirm him.  Do the Justices that have been appointed by the Dems "apply the law" and not implement policies?  They vote a straight party line for dem supported causes.  The republs are the only ones to every break party ranks per your example of Roberts.  Your "logic" seems to run only one direction.  If Trump had suggested court packing to approves his policies as the dems are doing, he would have been vilified as a dictator who didn't respect the checks and balances of the judiciary.  But when the libs do it, it is hunky dory.

False.

"The Turtle" Moscow Mitch McConnell refused to even have a vote on Merrick Garland who would have easily been voted through. He said the people "should decide" and left the Supreme Court seat open for 10 months. This year they couldn't wait to ram through unqualified handmaid Amy Covid Barrett during the tail end of the campaign going against their bogus reasoning in 2016. 

Donald Trump spent 4 years packing the courts with far right wing extremists but these same judges are ruling against him in court as they throw out his bogus and frivolous lawsuits. So the joke is on him.   

[Rick Plant]

We all know how Joe Biden won the election from his basement! He defied all odds and won.   If you have a mail-in ballot system it better be like Oregon (so said Obama) where the signatures are on record and can be compared to those sending in the votes to prove validity.   It seems that was the difference.  Paper ballots are the only way to avoid VLT fraud and make elections valid on election day.

Right wing NewsMax video.

Let's get the facts straight here. The odds were never against Joe Biden. Biden was always the overwhelming favorite to win the election.

Joe Biden led Donald Trump in every single poll (from February-November) even before he was the Democratic Presidential Nominee. Biden led in EVERY national poll after he was confirmed the Democratic Presidential Nominee. Biden also led in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in EVERY single poll as well.

The majority of Democrats voted by mail so the right wing voting machine claim is total nonsense. Also, the House had two bills to change the voting machines to paper ballots and Moscow Mitch refused to even take the bill up for a vote in the Senate as it's still collecting dust on his desk.

And finally, there was no "voter fraud" because Trump's own officials said "this was the most secure election in history". Which is the reason Republican judges are throwing out these bogus lawsuits left and right because there is no evidence of any voter fraud.

Trump’s own officials say 2020 was America’s most secure election in history
Homeland Security put out a statement with state and local officials that countered the president’s fraud claims
https://www.vox.com/2020/11/13/21563825/2020-elections-most-secure-dhs-cisa-krebs

[Richard Smith]

Poor Old Joe.  They let him out of the basement to play with his dog and he breaks his foot.   A frail old guy like that needs to be under supervision at the rest home.  He is not going to last six months in the WH before Kantala and the radicals invoked the 25th Amendment.  I feel sorry of the guy.  It is sad.  Like watching Mueller try to figure out where he was during that hearing on the Russian hoax.  Exploiting individuals with obvious dementia is cruel.

[Colin Crow]

Poor Old Joe.  They let him out of the basement to play with his dog and he breaks his foot.   A frail old guy like that needs to be under supervision at the rest home.  He is not going to last six months in the WH before Kantala and the radicals invoked the 25th Amendment.  I feel sorry of the guy.  It is sad.  Like watching Mueller try to figure out where he was during that hearing on the Russian hoax.  Exploiting individuals with obvious dementia is cruel.

And yet that’s what democracy produced. Biden winner, Trump loser. How bad people wanted him out of office they voted for the old guy in the basement. Republicans know that eventually when Texas turns blue it’s curtains. No way they can win electoral college then. Best plan is to try and suppress the vote as much as possible for now. Wonder how many forum members have donated to Donald's latest grift.

[Joe Elliott]

Trump strategy is similar to the JFK CTer’s. Both, at least for the more extreme JFK CTers, postulate a large secret conspiracy. Both:

1.   Bring as many arguments as possible. A big emphasis on the number of arguments over the quality of arguments.
2.   Both say the truth of their side is overwhelming. It’s obvious. Anyone is not hopelessly biased or uninformed can see it.
3.   Both make as extreme claims. Not only did Trump have enough votes in the swing states to squeak by, Biden didn’t get anywhere near 80 million votes.
4.   Just as this Biden fraud may take over the country, the JFK assassination managed to allow the conspirators to take over the country, which they still control to this day.

[Joe Elliott]

Trump has taught us two things:

1.   Fake News.
2.   Fake Elections.

To manipulate the people, the powers that be feed us fake news. But, as a backup plan, they arrange for fake elections.

[Colin Crow]

Trump has taught us two things:

1.   Fake News.
2.   Fake Elections.

To manipulate the people, the powers that be feed us fake news. But, as a backup plan, they arrange for fake elections.

Trump's strategy is pretty simple. Project what you do (or have done) onto your opponents. Play the victim. Lie in order to gaslight to the extreme. Remove the power of the 4th estate eg the "fake news" claim. Thank you Rupert. Always talk about "they" or "them", create an invisible enemy. Attack the intelligentsia, this is a common tactic of authoritarians. Discredit experts by the term "elites" and "deep state".

Many of these same tactics have been employed on smaller groups over the years, Jim Jones or David Koresh anyone?