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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2856 on: December 16, 2020, 03:50:59 AM »

Put the death rate in its proper perspective.  So COVID-19 is responsible for 300,000 deaths in 2020.  We are told  that underlying conditions were a factor as well but COVID was ultimately responsible.    However standalone COVID should show up in the statistics overall for 2020.    Were there any deaths this year due to normal flu?   A lot of elderly people die of pneumonia but they also battle congestive heart failure at the same time.  So what do you write down on the death certificate,  pneumonia or heart disease?   

Look at the stats.  Soon we can do a check and see how much COVID influenced the overall death rate by statistics for this year.   Assume COVID starts at Jan 1, 2020 and ends up being 300k this year.   (If we wait until the end of December, we can update that number as well!)

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

2018 data states that 2,839,205 people died of all causes.   Population of US for 2018 = 327,096,263  So normally 7800 people die every day before COVID.

Lets add 300,000 for COVID deaths to the total "normal" number and leave population  as it was in 2018.  We shall expect that the death rate in the US is now going to be 8600 people dying every day (combining statistics) in a simplified manner because of the seriousness of the COVID pandemic that is going across the land.   

However we know that a lot of these deaths were in the elderly and that COVID influenced the underlying conditions present.   The MSM is telling us the pandemic created 300,000 more deaths than normal.    The question to answer is.... Is this 300,000 deaths a propaganda number or will overall death rate go up by that amount and become 8600 deaths daily.      Was this a bad flu or is it a real pandemic?  The flu statistics are included in the death rate in the 2018 statistics.    It is like looking at mail in voting fraud, matching signatures in ballots and then finding out that the ballots being counted do not have creases on them because they weren't mail in at all!   


Was this COVID flu politicized and to what extent?   We know that some years have a greater amount of deaths due to flu - it is a variable.  Media won't investigate and report all the aspects - maybe statistics will prove more deaths.  It could be subjective and a trade off when you consider lockdowns might create higher suicide rates, depressive rampages and lessen diagnosed cancers and heart disease which will cause increased deaths too.  I believe statistics are now telling you heart attacks are not killing people like before - being falsely replaced by the COVID.  I guess lockdowns are healthier for you  - no sense getting out and jogging or doing physical activity anymore to increase your heart health!  Wherein lies the truth behind what is being played out as a pandemic?   It would be nice if the MSM would  give some researched data rather than continued hype and sensationalize the data.  Give the whole picture and some perspective instead.

We have doctors now saying that ND and SD are reaching herd immunity.  The people exposed to the virus are 40 to 50 times the actual reported positive because that statistically is how it works.  There is also a 50% false positive rate and error in testing which goes unreported.    What has been tested and its relationship to the real population infection rate.   There is a need to protect the elderly with underlying circumstances where certainly death rates for things like flu does increase with age and vaccines are helpful.  The jury is still out and there are medical studies that discuss the effectiveness of wearing masks, indoor and outdoor dining and 6 ft social distancing.  Maybe one shouldn't even be in the same room as someone sick with a cold or flu as you might catch it, mask or not, 6 ft or not!  Maybe someone should look at the Science and the research done from all aspects!   That goes unreported and unimportant for the peasants to know.

Are the number of COVID-19 deaths over reported? It’s possible. Dominion voting systems are used to tabulate the number of COVID-19 deaths. It’s possible that some of the deaths by car accidents have been flipped to COVID-19 deaths. This needs to be investigated. You can find information of this hidden scandal at:

www.google.com

But I suspect Allan is too busy to read all this.


Seriously, there have been a good deal more than 300,000 deaths in the United States. Like from people delaying doctor visits because of fear of the virus and dying because treatment started too late.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2020, 04:01:41 AM by Joe Elliott »

Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2857 on: December 16, 2020, 03:58:32 AM »
No, Dominion voting machines did not cause widespread problems
https://www.chicagotribune.com/election-2020/ct-nw-nyt-dominion-voting-machines-problems-20201112-dfhvga5uzjatdah2azb3fytlaa-story.html

What kind of misinformation is the Chicago Tribune spreading?  I guess it is a play on words, everything they is false!!
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The Dominion software was used in only two of the five counties that had problems in Michigan and Georgia,
 
Then later the same article states:
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In the two Michigan counties that had mistakes, the inaccuracies were because of human errors, not software problems
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Issues in three Georgia counties had other explanations. In one county, an apparent problem with Dominion software delayed officials' reporting of the vote tallies but did not affect the actual vote count. In two other counties, a separate company’s software slowed poll workers' ability to check-in voters.

Let me check there math for them: 2+3=5,  but they said earlier there were only 2 out of 5 counties in total problems in Michigan and Georgia. If you look below, they were obviously in charge of the "separate company's software" as they had control statewide - what a pack of lies!

Lets prove this and see how many counties used their software in these 2 states:

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https://www.dominionvoting.com/about/#footprint



Keep on lapping it up like a little puppy dog.  Do you like milkbones?  You provide no evidence to the contrary - always just a bag of gas.  Start quoting and backing up the real facts man!   You don't like the report of DVS machines done by the experts - prove that the manual doesn't tell you how to divide votes lol.   

https://www.scribd.com/document/488105156/Antrim-County-Forensics-Report-on-Dominion-Voting-System

Page 18 of the report:
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A high "error rate" in the election software (in this case 68.05%) reflects an algorithm used that will weight one candidate greater than another (for instance, weight a specific candidate at a 2/3 to approximately 1/3 ratio). In the logs we identified that the RCV or Ranked Choice Voting Algorithm was enabled (see image below from the Dominion manual). This allows the user to apply a weighted numerical value to candidates and change the overall result. The declaration of winners can be done on a basis of points, not votes.

I guess you can't read posts and the expert reports contained that stated that the Ranked Choice Voting Algorithm is built into the software and you can read about it in their own manual.  These machines are not there just to count votes 1+1+1......
  They were designed to alter votes like they did in Venezuela!

Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2858 on: December 16, 2020, 04:23:45 AM »
Are the number of COVID-19 deaths over reported? It’s possible. Dominion voting systems are used to tabulate the number of COVID-19 deaths. It’s possible that some of the deaths by car accidents have been flipped to COVID-19 deaths. This needs to be investigated. You can find information of this hidden scandal at:

www.google.com

But I suspect Allan is too busy to read all this.

Don't try to be a fool bigger than you already are.  That isn't the issue and you know it - sarcasm gets you nowheres!   Just admit you have nothing to say!  I am merely stating the fact that the MSM is tailoring statistics to create fear and politicized it so Biden can run his campaign from the basement and win!   When the statistics come out for 2020, let us see if deaths are 300,000 more than the year before and if I have made a valid point!   Just like BigTech players and social media billionaires controlling news and banning stories that involve Biden, Swalwell and Feinstein and their relationships with Chinese spies and the Chinese Communist Party.   Naturally all the BigTech players do not want to see an end to the COVID as they have made more money because of it and have forced all small businesses to close.   Pretty obvious when your country is falling into an oligarchy.

On the other front, looks like SolarWinds (Orion software) was cyberhacked 6 months ago and was shutdown last night by CISA.  The company was raided by FBI, US marshalls and Texas Rangers.    Again, it was "The Russian hackers".    It never would be China that does things!   Dominion also used the Orion software platfrom but were not on the partial listing posted- could it be coincidental?   They did use their protection software according to other sources and it was breached 6 months ago.  Russians have been blamed for everything under the sun and yet they really not a big player in the world but you want to compromise the Biden's, Comey's and all the result involved in filling their pockets at the hands of mother China!
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/12/u-s-treasury-commerce-depts-hacked-through-solarwinds-compromise/



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2859 on: December 16, 2020, 04:44:23 AM »
Don't try to be a fool bigger than you already are.  That isn't the issue and you know it - sarcasm gets you nowheres!   Just admit you have nothing to say!  I am merely stating the fact that the MSM is tailoring statistics to create fear and politicized it so Biden can run his campaign from the basement and win!   When the statistics come out for 2020, let us see if deaths are 300,000 more than the year before and if I have made a valid point!   Just like BigTech players and social media billionaires controlling news and banning stories that involve Biden, Swalwell and Feinstein and their relationships with Chinese spies and the Chinese Communist Party.   Naturally all the BigTech players do not want to see an end to the COVID as they have made more money because of it and have forced all small businesses to close.   Pretty obvious when your country is falling into an oligarchy.

On the other front, looks like SolarWinds (Orion software) was cyberhacked 6 months ago and was shutdown last night by CISA.  The company was raided by FBI, US marshalls and Texas Rangers.    Again, it was "The Russian hackers".    It never would be China that does things!   Dominion also used the Orion software platfrom but were not on the partial listing posted- could it be coincidental?   They did use their protection software according to other sources and it was breached 6 months ago.  Russians have been blamed for everything under the sun and yet they really not a big player in the world but you want to compromise the Biden's, Comey's and all the result involved in filling their pockets at the hands of mother China!
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/12/u-s-treasury-commerce-depts-hacked-through-solarwinds-compromise/

Ridiculous nonsense. Republicans control the states and decided on what machines to use. They were fine for B.enedict Donald in 2016 and nobody said a word about them until he lost in Georgia. Not one right winger is crying over the same machines in states he won. They "magically" were "bad machines" in states he lost.  :D       

Like I said, his Three Stooges legal team had their days in court in several states and his own handpicked right wing judges threw out the bogus lawsuits because not one had any merit. What does that tell you? It tells you the entire thing is a joke.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2860 on: December 16, 2020, 04:47:43 AM »
What kind of misinformation is the Chicago Tribune spreading?  I guess it is a play on words, everything they is false!! 
Then later the same article states:Then:
Let me check there math for them: 2+3=5,  but they said earlier there were only 2 out of 5 counties in total problems in Michigan and Georgia. If you look below, they were obviously in charge of the "separate company's software" as they had control statewide - what a pack of lies!

Lets prove this and see how many counties used their software in these 2 states:



Keep on lapping it up like a little puppy dog.  Do you like milkbones?  You provide no evidence to the contrary - always just a bag of gas.  Start quoting and backing up the real facts man!   You don't like the report of DVS machines done by the experts - prove that the manual doesn't tell you how to divide votes lol.   

https://www.scribd.com/document/488105156/Antrim-County-Forensics-Report-on-Dominion-Voting-System

Page 18 of the report:
I guess you can't read posts and the expert reports contained that stated that the Ranked Choice Voting Algorithm is built into the software and you can read about it in their own manual.  These machines are not there just to count votes 1+1+1......
  They were designed to alter votes like they did in Venezuela!

You're the one that believes in bogus propaganda. The majority of Democrats voted by mail. Not one judge saw any evidence of voter fraud or voting machine irregularities. Making up bogus claims of voter fraud doesn't get you anywhere because we all knew they were going to be making them up.   


Joe Biden will be sworn in as President on Jan 20th.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2861 on: December 16, 2020, 05:27:03 AM »
That will be the beginning of the end of the Republic.  China will be the new boss in town - thanks to their infiltration into universities, political parties, spies.   The BigTech wanting to make more money in China and saying nothing about the cheap labor they are using in China will carry on until China can totally take over their technology. 

When the Supreme Court did not listen to those 18 states that brought a lawsuit against the 4, it was an end to the constitution and to the Republic.   The voting changes made by those 4 states was unconstitutional.   Failure by the SCOTUS to even hear it and make a decision means that the Republic no longer functions as a republic. If you can change the election rules by a mutual consent of a few individuals and implemented by low order courts without having it questioned is very dangerous.  Soros knows exactly what he is doing to create turmoil in the country - look what he was able to accomplish with Gascon in LA and what he is doing with the rest of his money influence in the US!

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/12/08/new-los-angeles-county-da-wont-prosecuting-much-anything/

This divides the country my friend and may one day create civil war.   Why would Texas and the 17 other states want to stay in a country in which the constitution no longer applies to 4 rogue states and is not being upheld under the same letter of the law that they are under?   2 different systems of government?   Ignoring last minute voting changes and blaming COVID for these constitutional infractions is a ludicrous argument.    Mail in ballots are not checked and everyone gets one (or maybe even two!)  This lack of election integrity means 2 different countries are now co-existing one under the constitution, the other not. 
 
If the Supreme Court doesn't want to even hear the case, it means there is no hope and the country becomes the United States of ?(China perhaps?).    It would have been a pretty easy fix if the SCOTUS would have stepped in and said that all mail in ballots (original) should be examined and checked for anomalies such as a lack of folding when put in an envelope to even prove or disprove the mass influx of Biden votes which came in after midnight.    The 75 million that voted for Trump basically lost to a mail in process which bent all the rules and the most votes cast/harvested in history.   If the mail in ballots can be proven, Biden has nothing to fear and the 75 million Trump supporters would certainly concede to Biden and allow him his reign with his oligarchs.   This duck and cover process is not letting the light shine in on the process and this will haunt the Republic for the rest of its days.  Long live the freedom that Americans once sought, lived by and died for.   I am afraid the end is nearer than the beginning and the Republic is close to unraveling with a Biden plutocracy.     i predict that 78 year old Biden will likely not last long and be replaced by Harris as he is unfit to make any meaningful decisions.  Pelosi will create the paperwork for that, Biden and his family will be granted pardon and will never have to face corruption charges but will be able to trot off with their bag of money!       

 
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2862 on: December 16, 2020, 04:46:50 PM »
Here is a stunning development that is being ignored by most news outlets: The audit ordered by the 13th Circuit Court in Michigan has found that the Dominion voting software's error rate in just one county was an astounding 68%, far above the federal allowable maximum of 0.0008%. This alone is grounds for auditing every vote tabulation done by Dominion software in every key swing state. From the audit report:

"We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. . . .

"The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. . . .

"Likewise all server security logs prior to 11:03 p.m. on November 4, 2020, are missing. This means that all security logs for the day after the election, on election day, and prior to election day are gone. Security logs are very important to an audit trail, forensics, and for detecting advanced persistent threats. . . . Other server logs before November 4, 2020, are present; therefore, there is no reasonable explanation for the security logs to be missing."

Conservative news outlets, including Newsmax TV and the One America News Network (OAN), have covered this important development.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/antrim-county-michigan-forensic/2020/12/14/id/1001505/

Here's the audit report itself:

https://www.scribd.com/document/488080093/Antrim-Michigan-Forensics-Report-121320-PRELIMINARY?secret_password=6tgofj7cUYx1kQwElves#from_embed&oRef=vuukle