Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Joe Elliott]

More reports are coming out that this was a well funded and coordinated planned domestic terrorist attack. More of these terrorist maga thugs are being arrested.



This photo tells you all you need to know.

I mean come on Rick. Those were obviously leftist infiltrators. One of them is even wearing a mask? When’s the last time you saw a Trump supporter wearing a mask?

[Rick Plant]

I mean come on Rick. Those were obviously leftist infiltrators. One of them is even wearing a mask? When’s the last time you saw a Trump supporter wearing a mask?

I seriously hope you are attempting to make a bad joke. These are all maga thugs who attempted to overthrow the US Government at the direction of Donald Trump. There are no "leftist infiltrators" supporting a right wing coup to install Trump as the supreme dictator.     

[Colin Crow]

Only One-In-Eight Republicans have turned against Donald Trump. And what keeps our Democracy is having those One-in-Eighters. I have no reason to believe that this One-in-Eight ratio is any different in the Democratic party than the Republican party.

And this brings up a question that I wish everyone would ponder:

Are you one of those One-in-Eight?

That is, one of those who voted for a man to be President, but turned against him when he lost the election but tried to steal it back with false claims?

Most Americans would say they are. And most Americans would be wrong.

I think I am one of those One-in-Eight, and here’s why. I never had a President, in my lifetime, who I thought was truly great.

If such a President was ever elected, and I thought he was truly great, finally the President we need, and he lost the next election, but tried to steal it back, would I turn against him? Or would I look for reasons to find that the election was indeed fraudulent? That’s a good question. I hope I never have to find out. But I think it is a moot question because I don’t think I will ever find such a President.

The President I held to the highest esteem, during my lifetime, a man whom I made certain I read his book in high school, ‘Six Crises’ (he should have waited a few years and then write ‘Seven Crises’) was my President, Richard Nixon. It appears I learned my lesson at an early age.

Man, it’s always natural to look back on your youth and say “That was the golden age. That was when America was truly great”. And in some ways, it was. A President could actually lose his job by committing a crime.

And what crime did Richard Nixon commit? Did he break into the Capitol so the Senators and Congressman could be kidnapped and forced to give him “Four More Years”? No, it was breaking into an empty Hotel suite. Where no one was killed, no one was injured, no one was even threatened because no one was there except a security guard. And for that, they forced him to resign.

I remember when to be a Watergate Criminal was considered to be the lowest from of life. What was the worst of them compared to the man who killed the police officer with a blow to the head with a fire extinguisher? Or who was among the bunch of others who pressed hard against a policeman nearly crushing him and causing him to scream and scream. Or who brought along some zip ties so he can have some fun with Nancy Pelosi. Why did we send those Watergate burglars to years in prison?

God, if Donald Trump ever becomes President again, I expect to see him break into Fort Knox. Why not?

“Man, you people are really great. I really love you. Don’t worry, you’ll get your share later.”

How much of the current situation lies at the feet of Nixon and those Republicans who adopted the Southern Strategy? To me Trumpism is just largely an extension of that cynical doctrine.

[Bill Chapman]

In 1,386 days, President Trump has
made 29,508 false or misleading claims
The Fact Checker’s ongoing database of the false or misleading claims made by President Trump since assuming office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?tid=lk_inline_manual_22&tid=lk_inline_manual_26&tid=lk_inline_manual_31&tid=lk_inline_manual_35&itid=lk_inline_manual_35&itid=lk_inline_manual_42&itid=lk_inline_manual_20&itid=lk_inline_manual_38&itid=lk_inline_manual_28

[Joe Elliott]

Seditious Donald lost the election in a blowout even with full Republican support. Any loss of percentages from 13-20% would make it a massive landslide which would include more House and Senate seats since the majority of these seditious GOP traitors are in lockstep with the orange scumbag. Those are votes the GOP will never get again.

Yes. I get the impression that a lot of people, not all of them Trump supporters, think that Trump is still a real force to be reckoned with. Yes, a force to be reckoned with in riots. Very probably a force to be reckoned with in primaries. But not a force to be reckoned with in general elections. Not anymore. Which in the end is the only thing that really counts.

Any politician who:
•   Voted to not accept a states certificates of Electoral vote.
•   Continued to claim the election was stolen after the manual counts, after the signature checks, after the court cases were rejected.
•   Insists that are future elections are gravely in doubt.
I will vote against them. Yes, they have the freedom of speech. But I have the freedom to vote. At the polls I will beat them and beat them and beat them until they are beaten into submission. No other consideration, even the amount of government spending, will be a consideration, so long as these jerks attack Democracy.

I think that it is possible the GOP will get those votes again. But only if they stop their lies, and bring forth candidates who never spoke those lies. But if this is not done then I do hope the GOP will never get those votes back again.

[Joe Elliott]

I seriously hope you are attempting to make a bad joke. These are all maga thugs who attempted to overthrow the US Government at the direction of Donald Trump. There are no "leftist infiltrators" supporting a right wing coup to install Trump as the supreme dictator.   

No. I was not attempting to make a bad joke. I was attempting to make a good joke. Maybe it was a bad joke. In any case, rest assured, it was a joke.

Trump’s coup attempt was the most telegraphed coup attempt in history. It’s unbelievable they managed to break into the Capitol. What went wrong is going to be investigated. It is unbelievable it happened because of the sheer the sheer incompetence of the Capitol Police leadership but I guess we will see. And this second paragraph is not a joke of any kind.

[Joe Elliott]

I suppose that it can be claimed that being surprised on January 6, that the failure of Capitol Police Chief Sund is comparable to the failures of Admiral Kimmel and General Short to adequately prepare for a possible surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. No. The two cases are not comparable.

The two cases would be comparable if the Japanese declared that they wanted peace with the United States. And the United States must come to understand that there must never be a war with Japan. And to make certain the United States understood that, there were going to send their fleet to Hawaii. And fly all their planes of their carriers and make a peaceful overflight of Honolulu so that we can see their power. And did so, except at the last minute diverted their planes and attacked Pearl Harbor. Had his occurred, then the failure of the leadership of Admiral Kimmel and General Short would be on a par with the failure of Capitol Police Chief Sund.

Capitol Police Chief Sund stands in a category by himself. Well maybe him and Publius Quinctilius Varus. But I would rank Sund as the bigger dufus. If this was an honest misjudgment, this man is epic. I don’t think we will see his likes again. We better not.

[Joe Elliott]

In 1,386 days, President Trump has
made 29,508 false or misleading claims
The Fact Checker’s ongoing database of the false or misleading claims made by President Trump since assuming office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?tid=lk_inline_manual_22&tid=lk_inline_manual_26&tid=lk_inline_manual_31&tid=lk_inline_manual_35&itid=lk_inline_manual_35&itid=lk_inline_manual_42&itid=lk_inline_manual_20&itid=lk_inline_manual_38&itid=lk_inline_manual_28

Yes, but at least the number of lies that Trump tells each day has not yet started to exceed the number who die each day of COVID-19. He still has 10 days to make up for that. But without his Twitter account, I don’t think he will be able to do so.