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« Reply #4776 on: March 03, 2022, 02:47:07 PM »
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Jan. 6 Committee Lays Out Potential Criminal Charges Against Trump

In a court filing, the panel said there was enough evidence to suggest that the former president might have engaged in a criminal conspiracy as he fought to remain in office.

WASHINGTON — The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol said on Wednesday that there was enough evidence to conclude that former President Donald J. Trump and some of his allies might have conspired to commit fraud and obstruction by misleading Americans about the outcome of the 2020 election and attempting to overturn the result.

In a court filing in a civil case in California, the committee’s lawyers for the first time laid out their theory of a potential criminal case against the former president. They said they had accumulated evidence demonstrating that Mr. Trump, the conservative lawyer John Eastman and other allies could potentially be charged with criminal violations including obstructing an official proceeding of Congress and conspiracy to defraud the American people.

The filing also said there was evidence that Mr. Trump’s repeated lies that the election had been stolen amounted to common law fraud.

The filing disclosed only limited new evidence, and the committee asked the judge in the civil case to review the relevant material behind closed doors. In asserting the potential for criminality, the committee largely relied on the extensive and detailed accounts already made public of the actions Mr. Trump and his allies took to keep him in office after his defeat.

The committee added information from its more than 550 interviews with state officials, Justice Department officials and top aides to Mr. Trump, among others.

It said, for example, that Jason Miller, Mr. Trump’s senior campaign adviser, had told the committee in a deposition that Mr. Trump had been told soon after Election Day by a campaign data expert “in pretty blunt terms” that he was going to lose, suggesting that Mr. Trump was well aware that his months of assertions about a stolen election were false. (Mr. Trump subsequently said he disagreed with the data expert’s analysis, Mr. Miller said, because he thought he could win in court.)

The evidence gathered by the committee “provides, at minimum, a good-faith basis for concluding that President Trump has violated” the obstruction count, the filing, written by Douglas N. Letter, the general counsel of the House, said, adding: “The select committee also has a good-faith basis for concluding that the president and members of his campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States.”

The filing said that a “review of the materials may reveal that the president and members of his campaign engaged in common law fraud in connection with their efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.”

Representatives of Mr. Trump did not respond to requests for comment.

Charles Burnham, a lawyer for Mr. Eastman, said that his client, like all lawyers, “has a responsibility to protect client confidences, even at great personal risk and expense.”

“The select committee has responded to Dr. Eastman’s efforts to discharge this responsibility by accusing him of criminal conduct,” Mr. Burnham said in a statement. “Because this is a civil matter, Dr. Eastman will not have the benefit of the constitutional protections normally afforded to those accused by their government of criminal conduct. Nonetheless, we look forward to responding in due course.”

The panel, which is controlled by Democrats, is a legislative committee and has no authority to charge the former president — or anyone else — with a crime.

But the filing contains the clearest indication yet about the committee’s direction as it weighs making a criminal referral to the Justice Department against Mr. Trump and his allies, a step that could put pressure on Attorney General Merrick B. Garland to take up the case. The Justice Department has said little of substance about whether it might ultimately pursue a case.

The filing laid out a sweeping if by now well-established account of the plot to overturn the election, which included false claims of election fraud, plans to put forward pro-Trump “alternate” electors, pressure various federal agencies to find irregularities and ultimately push Vice President Mike Pence and Congress to exploit the Electoral Count Act to keep a losing president in power.

“As the president and his associates propagated dangerous misinformation to the public,” the filing said, Mr. Eastman “was a leader in a related effort to persuade state officials to alter their election results based on these same fraudulent claims.”

The court filing stemmed from a lawsuit filed by Mr. Eastman, who is trying to persuade a judge to block the committee’s subpoena for documents in his possession, claiming “a highly partisan” invasion of his privacy. The committee issued a subpoena to Mr. Eastman in January, citing a memo he wrote laying out how Mr. Trump could use the vice president and Congress to try to invalidate the 2020 election results.

As part of the suit, Mr. Eastman sought to shield from release documents he said were covered by attorney-client privilege. In response, the committee argued — under the legal theory known as the crime-fraud exception — that the privilege does not cover information conveyed from a client to a lawyer if it was part of furthering or concealing a crime.

Mr. Eastman then argued the committee had offered “no evidence” of the existence of a crime-fraud exception, prompting the committee’s latest filing.

“The evidence supports an inference that President Trump, plaintiff and several others entered into an agreement to defraud the United States by interfering with the election certification process, disseminating false information about election fraud, and pressuring state officials to alter state election results and federal officials to assist in that effort,” the filing states.

It also made reference to a recent ruling in a civil suit in Washington, D.C., in which Judge Amit P. Mehta of the Federal District Court found that it was “plausible to believe that the president entered into a conspiracy with the rioters on Jan. 6, 2021.”

“In addition to the legal effort to delay the certification, there is also evidence that the conspiracy extended to the rioters engaged in acts of violence at the Capitol,” the filing said.

On Tuesday, the State Bar of California announced an investigation into Mr. Eastman over whether he engaged in conduct that violated California law and ethics rules.

Mr. Eastman’s memo to Mr. Trump suggested that Mr. Pence could reject electors from certain states. Mr. Eastman also participated in a briefing for nearly 300 state legislators, during which he told the group that it was their duty to “fix this, this egregious conduct, and make sure that we’re not putting in the White House some guy that didn’t get elected,” according to the committee.

He met with Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence to push his arguments, participated in a meeting of Trump advisers at the Willard hotel and spoke at the “Stop the Steal” rally on the Ellipse on Jan. 6, before the Capitol assault. As violence broke out, he sent a message blaming Mr. Pence for not going along with his plan.

As a mob was attacking the Capitol, chanting “Hang Mike Pence,” Mr. Eastman sent a hostile message to the vice president’s top lawyer, blaming Mr. Pence for the violence.

“The ‘siege’ is because YOU and your boss did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so that the American people can see for themselves what happened,” he wrote to Greg Jacob, Mr. Pence’s chief counsel.

In a recent filing in his suit, Mr. Eastman said Mr. Trump had retained him “because of his election law and constitutional expertise” in the fall of 2020 for “federal litigation matters in relation to the 2020 presidential general election, including election matters related to the Electoral College.”

On Sept. 3, 2020 — two months before Mr. Trump lost the election — Mr. Eastman was invited by the pro-Trump lawyer Cleta Mitchell to join an Election Integrity Working Group to begin preparing for anticipated postelection litigation. Mr. Eastman said Mr. Trump had asked Ms. Mitchell to undertake the effort in August.

The judge in the case has already denied a request from Mr. Eastman to shield nearly 19,000 emails from the committee, saying that congressional investigators have the authority to see the messages and that the First Amendment does not protect his communications. Mr. Eastman has so far turned over about 8,000 of the emails.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/02/us/politics/trump-criminal-charges-jan-6.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4777 on: March 03, 2022, 04:12:03 PM »
They got him this time!  LOL.  Just like Schiff, Avenatti, and the NY AG promised.  Oh wait.  And 2024 is one day closer.  Better hurry. "Go get 'em" Brandon.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4778 on: March 03, 2022, 11:10:00 PM »
The single most damning email exchange in the new January 6 committee filing

CNN —  Buried in a court filing late Wednesday from the January 6 committee is an explosive email exchange between Greg Jacob, a top lawyer for then-Vice President Mike Pence, and John Eastman, a lawyer who was working with then-President Donald Trump’s legal team, that absolutely nails the culpability of Eastman in the events of that terrible day.

The email exchange began on January 5, with Eastman attempting to push the idea that Pence had the constitutional authority to reject certain electors from swing states when the votes were counted in Congress the next day.

On January 6 at 12:14 pm ET, as it was becoming increasingly clear that there was a Trump-inspired riot brewing at the US Capitol, Jacob was unequivocal in his rejection of Eastman’s theories.

 “I have run down every legal trail placed before me to its conclusion, and I respectfully conclude that as a legal framework, it is a results-oriented position that you would never support if attempted by the opposition, and essentially entirely made up,” Jacob wrote Eastman. “And thanks to your bullspombleprofglidnoctobuns, we are now under siege.”

To which Eastman responds: “The ‘siege’ is because YOU and your boss did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so the American people can see for themselves what happened.”

In his next response, Jacob drops the hammer: “The advice provided has, whether intended or not, functioned as a serpent in the ear of the President of the United States, the most powerful office in the entire world. And here we are.”

Jacob went on:

“Respectfully, it was gravely, gravely irresponsible for you to entice the President with an academic theory that had no legal viability, and that you well know we would lose before any judge who heard and decided the case. And if the courts declined to hear it, I suppose it could only be decided in the streets. The knowing amplification of that theory through numerous surrogates, whipping large numbers of people into a frenzy over something with no chance of ever attaining legal force through actual process of law, has led us to where we are.”

Yes, that’s it exactly.

Eastman’s infamous memo – in which he outlined how Pence could overturn the Electoral College results – was, as Jacob rightly noted, the stuff of debate in a law school class, maybe, but certainly not the framework on which an election should be decided.

And Jacob nails the role the memo – and Eastman more generally – played in the run-up to January 6. He handed a drowning man a rope. Trump, in the days and weeks after the election, was desperate to find something, anything that would allow him to make the case that a) he hadn’t really lost and b) he could stay on as president.

It was during that same time period that Trump called Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to urge him to overturn the results. “All I want to do is this,” Trump told Raffensperger. “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.” Trump was engaged in similar pressure campaigns in other swing states as well.

What’s so incredibly damning about the Jacob-Eastman email exchange is that the former is utterly convinced that the latter knows that what he is doing is wrong – and is doing it anyway, with disastrous consequences for the party.

The image of Eastman as Iago pouring his poison in the ear of Trump’s Othello is a powerful one. Especially when you consider that Jacob wasn’t some lawyer working for Democrats. He was the chief counsel to the Republican vice president of the United States.

That fact makes his accusations against Eastman all the more powerful.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/politics/trump-january-6-committee-eastman-email/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4779 on: March 04, 2022, 03:37:59 AM »
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4780 on: March 04, 2022, 01:11:04 PM »
Donnie is always praising his puppet master Putin.

Since Donnie is washed up and his political career is over GOP Senators have thrown him under the bus after his praising of Putin. The backlash was finally too much for them to take and Moscow Mitch McConnell decided to dump Trump. Let's not forget these same GOP Senators all took Russian money and covered up for Donnie's crimes.

GOP senators push back hard on Trump's praise of Putin

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has revealed tensions within the Republican Party over how hard to push back on the aggression and how to respond to former President Trump’s glowing praise of Putin.   

The national security crisis has shown Trump to be seriously out of step with GOP leaders on characterizing Putin’s motives and moves, even though Trump looks increasingly likely to run again for president in 2024. 

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday contradicted Trump’s recent praise of Putin as “smart” and “savvy” by declaring that he views the Russian president as a “ruthless thug.”

Asked about Trump’s comments, McConnell said: “What President Putin did as a ruthless thug is just invade — invaded another sovereign country and killed thousands of innocent people.”

“That’s what President Putin did,” he emphasized.

It’s not the first time that McConnell has indirectly admonished Trump for speaking glowingly of Putin. 

McConnell pushed back against the then-president in 2017 when Trump, shortly after taking office, equated the U.S. government with the Kremlin. 

“There are a lot of killers. You think our country’s so innocent?” Trump told then-Fox News host Bill O’Reilly. 

McConnell told CNN in response: “I don’t think there’s any equivalency between the way the Russians conduct themselves and the way the United States does.” 

The GOP leader noted that “Putin’s a former KGB agent, he’s a thug, he was not elected in a way that most people would consider a credible election.” 

Senate Minority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) on Tuesday unleashed another salvo at Putin when asked to comment on Trump’s characterization of Putin’s plan to seize parts of Ukraine piece by piece as “genius.” 

Asked about Trump’s praise of the Russian president, Thune, who is up for reelection this year, said “Putin is a murderous thug and I think the world is now seeing that.” 

“That’s my view of it and I think that’s going to be most Americans’ view of it. That was before and will be for sure after what we’re seeing on display,” he said. 

Thune predicted that the invasion of Ukraine will bolster support for NATO, which Trump discussed pulling the United States out of when he was president. 

“Obviously people are realizing more than ever now the value of NATO and seeing on full display, again, the true character of Putin,” he said. “A lot of people for a long time have maintained this is what he’s about, but I think now the whole world is seeing it in a way that they never have before and coming to the realization that this guy is after one thing, and that’s power.”

Trump broke from the Republican Party’s longtime distrust of Russia when he was elected to office. He held a two-hour one-on-one meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Finland, sending senior officials out of the room. After that meeting, Trump said he believed Putin’s claim that Russia didn’t interfere in the 2016 presidential election, even though U.S. intelligence agencies found substantial evidence of meddling by Moscow. 

The late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), then the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, lambasted Trump’s joint press conference with Putin as “one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory.” 

Years later, Trump still seems to hold a favorable opinion of Putin, telling an audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference this weekend: “I like to tell the truth. Yes, he’s smart.”

“The problem is not that Putin is smart, which of course he’s smart, but the real problem is that our leaders are dumb,” he added. 

He doubled down on comments made in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show” in which he praised Putin’s strategy as “genius” and “pretty savvy.” 

Those statements surprised Republican senators who publicly condemned Putin.

Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), who voted twice to convict Trump on articles of impeachment, said statements defending Putin are “almost treasonous.” 

“It just makes me ill to see some of these people do that. But of course they do it because it’s shock value and it’s going to get them maybe more eyeballs and make a little more money for them or their network,” he told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Sen. Jerry Moran (Kan.), a mainstream Republican senator who usually avoids controversy, took to the Senate floor on Monday to declare that Putin alone is responsible for the crisis in Ukraine.

“Vladimir Putin is a thug and is solely responsible for the invasion of Ukraine. Putin, I condemn him, and he’s even being condemned by his own people in Russia and by a growing alliance around the world,” he said. “There is nothing that justifies Russia invading Ukraine. This is the most significant intrusion from one country to another since the beginning in the 1930s of what resulted in World War II.”

Moran later told The Hill that he felt compelled to speak out.

“Reading history, Churchill in that era is important to me. My dad was a World War II veteran. It stands out. It’s easy to look the other way, but that’s a mistake,” he said.

Asked whether he was trying to clear up questions of whether President Biden deserves some blame for the invasion, as Trump has suggested, Moran only said: “Vladimir Putin is responsible for what’s transpiring in Ukraine.”

“I think these are points in time in which these circumstances require us to be united in making sure the blame rests with Putin,” he said. 

Not all Republicans are responding to Trump’s comments with forceful denunciations of Putin.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who is eyeing a run for president in 2024, said the “corporate media” is distracting from what he views as the Biden administration’s reluctance to impose sanctions on Russia sooner by focusing on Trump.

“I think the corporate media is desperate to drive a narrative. By any measure, Trump’s policies were much, much tougher on Russia than Biden’s policies,” he said, noting sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that Trump signed into law. “Putin did not invade Ukraine throughout that time until Joe Biden became president.”

Former Trump national security adviser John Bolton told Newsmax in an interview that he disagrees with claims that Trump’s policies deterred Putin.

"It’s just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians,” Bolton told host Rob Schmitt.

Bolton also disputed the claim that Trump stopped or slowed construction on Nord Stream 2, a pipeline that would carry natural gas from Russia to Germany.

“We didn't sanction Nord Stream 2. We should have. We should have brought the project to an end. We did impose sanctions on Russian oligarchs and several others because of their sales of S-400 anti-aircraft systems to other countries. But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it, saying we were being too hard,” he said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/596402-gop-senators-push-back-hard-on-trumps-praise-of-putin

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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« Reply #4781 on: March 04, 2022, 03:31:23 PM »
Donnie is always praising his puppet master Putin.

Since Donnie is washed up and his political career is over GOP Senators have thrown him under the bus after his praising of Putin. The backlash was finally too much for them to take and Moscow Mitch McConnell decided to dump Trump. Let's not forget these same GOP Senators all took Russian money and covered up for Donnie's crimes.



Yes, he is washed up!  LOL.  Keep hoping and trying to undermine the democratic process like Putin.

"Donald Trump won the Conservative Political Action Conference straw poll on Sunday, with 59 percent of respondents saying they would vote for the former president in the 2024 presidential primary."


And a puppet of Putin:

"The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling, it's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.  We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all."

Donald J. Trump (statement on 02/26/22)

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4782 on: March 04, 2022, 03:34:55 PM »
Republicans will remind Tucker Carlson's viewers of Trump's praise for 'enemy' Putin in new ad



As missiles rain down and thousands are dying across Ukraine, the Republican Accountability Project is intent on reminding Fox News viewers that former president Donald Trump thinks Vladimir Putin's war is "genius" and "savvy."

A new TV spot from the group, which is set to air next week during Tucker Carlson's show, lines up Trump's praise of Putin - shaking hands, accepting a soccer ball, etc. - against powerful images of bandaged and wounded Ukrainians and demolished buildings. Trump is heard gushing over Putin, saying, "He's going to go in as a peacekeeper ... there's more army tanks than I've ever seen ... he's going to keep peace all right."

Sarah Longwell, RAP's executive director, surely doesn't agree with Trump's assessment. “Vladimir Putin is an enemy of the United States and an enemy of democracy. It’s unconscionable that a former U.S. president would call a tyrant like Putin ‘smart’ as he attacks innocent people.”

The Republican Accountability Project said another right-wing network, Newsmax, refused to air the ad.

You can preview the new spot here:


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« Reply #4783 on: March 04, 2022, 03:39:29 PM »
Republicans will remind Tucker Carlson's viewers of Trump's praise for 'enemy' Putin in new ad



As missiles rain down and thousands are dying across Ukraine, the Republican Accountability Project is intent on reminding Fox News viewers that former president Donald Trump thinks Vladimir Putin's war is "genius" and "savvy."

A new TV spot from the group, which is set to air next week during Tucker Carlson's show, lines up Trump's praise of Putin - shaking hands, accepting a soccer ball, etc. - against powerful images of bandaged and wounded Ukrainians and demolished buildings. Trump is heard gushing over Putin, saying, "He's going to go in as a peacekeeper ... there's more army tanks than I've ever seen ... he's going to keep peace all right."

Sarah Longwell, RAP's executive director, surely doesn't agree with Trump's assessment. “Vladimir Putin is an enemy of the United States and an enemy of democracy. It’s unconscionable that a former U.S. president would call a tyrant like Putin ‘smart’ as he attacks innocent people.”

The Republican Accountability Project said another right-wing network, Newsmax, refused to air the ad.

You can preview the new spot here:


"The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling, it's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.  We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all."

Donald J. Trump (statement on 02/26/22)

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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