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« Reply #4784 on: March 04, 2022, 03:46:12 PM »
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Yeah, a mix up. LOL. All these right wingers should just admit they are white nationalists. These lame excuses they give makes them look even worse.

Trump's former ICE director showed up at white nationalist conference — but claims it was a mix-up: report



On Thursday, the Huffington Post reported that the one-time director of former President Donald Trump's Immigration and Customs Enforcement showed up to the Orlando, Florida hotel where the America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC) — a gathering headed up by white nationalist organizer and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes -- was taking place.

However, he claims the whole thing was a misunderstanding.

"HuffPost has learned that Thomas Homan, the director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement under former President Donald Trump, showed up to AFPAC," reported Christopher Mathias. "He claimed to HuffPost that the whole thing was just a mix-up, and that he left the hotel quickly, before the conference began."

""Before introducing the first mystery speaker, Fuentes issued an apology. His first choice, he explained, had a family emergency. Thomas Homan, who oversaw the Trump administration’s brutal anti-immigration policies as head of ICE, had arrived at AFPAC, Fuentes claimed, but had to rush away. He sadly wouldn’t be speaking," said the report. "Homan confirmed to HuffPost in a phone call this week that he had indeed arrived to speak at AFPAC. His assistant had arranged the appearance, he said, and Homan said they may have confused Fuentes’ group for another one. 'So many names of conservative groups sound the same,' Homan said."

Homan drew controversy in 2018 when he refused to acknowledge the conditions at Trump's border camps were inhumane.

Fuentes' gathering, which was punctuated by support for Vladimir Putin during his invasion of Ukraine, attracted several Republicans in elected office, most notably pro-QAnon Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA). This drew condemnation from other Republicans, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), and GOP Senate candidate Herschel Walker, who is Black, pulled out of an upcoming campaign event with her.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cpac-afpac-white-nationalists-republicans-maga_n_6217fd24e4b0ef74d72d36d1

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4785 on: March 04, 2022, 03:51:40 PM »
"The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling, it's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.  We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all."

Donald J. Trump (statement on 02/26/22)

A phony statement you keep posting. Why did Donnie go on a right wing radio show and praise Putin again?

Here’s what Trump told conservative radio hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis last week:

“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine – of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.” - Donald Trump

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4786 on: March 04, 2022, 04:36:27 PM »
A phony statement you keep posting. Why did Donnie go on a right wing radio show and praise Putin again?

Here’s what Trump told conservative radio hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis last week:

“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine – of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.” - Donald Trump


Phony?  It's a direct quote taken from his CPAC speech.  Anyone can watch it and conclude which of us is telling the truth.  Trump often compliments Putin.  It was part of his tactic to appeal to his ego.  A tactic that avoided war during his administration.  How are things working out under Biden?  He is two for two with Russian invasions during both the Obama and now his own failed administration.  Trump has, in no uncertain terms, condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine.  Just posting a lot of nonsesnse over and over again does not change that.  Sean Hannity suggested that Putin be assassinated.  That doesn't sound like he is supporting Putin.  But again, here is a direct quote from Trump on the issue.  Anyone can read it for themselves and reach a conclusion on which of us is telling the truth:

"The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling, it's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.  We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all."

Donald J. Trump (statement on 02/26/22)



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4787 on: March 04, 2022, 11:25:16 PM »
Criminal Donald is a Russian stooge and a puppet of Putin. He's been praising him for years and even more recently since Putin is slaughtering innocent people in Ukraine with a mass genocide. Donnie said "Putin is a genius" and "savvy" for ilegally invading Ukraine and now innocent children are being slaughtered and entire towns are being bombed out. Trump said that is "genius". This man is mentally ill. A normal thinking person would never even give praise ONE time for this illegal act. Criminal Donald has publicly praised Putin at least THREE times since the illegal invasion. He put out a phony statement to take the heat off himself since he was getting hammered worldwide with condemnation but then he goes right back to praising Putin again on a right wing radio show. You don't give a full throated endorsement of an illegal invasion and then all of a sudden pretend to condemn it. It doesn't work that way, especially when you double down on the same praise a day or two later. Nobody in their right mind would praise an evil murderous dictator ONE time. Donnie did it at least THREE times since the illegal invasion began. Donnie is a sick man. Look at the deranged eyes of that psycho screaming.                 



Donald Trump calling Vladimir Putin a ‘genius’ was no mistake

CNN — On Wednesday, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham insisted that former President Donald Trump had made a “mistake” when he referred to Russian President Vladimir Putin as a “genius” for his invasion of Ukraine.

But a mistake implies that Trump did it once – unintentionally misspeaking in a way that didn’t represent his actual views.

Which is, um, not what Trump did.

Here’s what Trump told conservative radio hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis last week: “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine – of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”


The day after he made those comments, he effectively doubled down on them. “They say, ‘Trump said Putin’s smart.’ I mean, he’s taking over a country for two dollars’ worth of sanctions,” Trump told a crowd at a fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago, according to a recording of the event. “I’d say that’s pretty smart. He’s taking over a country – really a vast, vast location, a great piece of land with a lot of people, and just walking right in.”

Then, in a speech at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference last weekend, Trump, again, repeated his praise of Putin.“Yesterday reporters asked me if I thought President Putin was smart,” he said. “I said, ‘Of course, he’s smart,’ to which I was greeted with ‘Oh, that’s such a terrible thing to say.’” I like to tell them, ‘Yes, he’s smart.’”

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, well, I must be just plain clueless.

And it’s not just these three times that Trump has praised Putin. Not even close!

There was the time on the campaign trail in 2016 when Trump said this: “The man has very strong control over a country. Now, it’s a very different system and I don’t happen to like the system, but certainly in that system, he’s been a leader. Far more than our president has been a leader.”

Or that time in 2017 when Fox’s Bill O’Reilly called Putin a “killer” and Trump responded:“There are a lot of killers. Do you think our country is so innocent? Do you think our country is so innocent?”

Or that time in 2018 when, after meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Trump took the Russian president’s side on the issue of meddling in the 2016 election. “I think that the United States has been foolish,” Trump said. “We’ve all been foolish. We’re all to blame.”

(If you want more – and there is a LOT more – check out this KFILE timeline of Trump’s past laudatory quotes about Putin.)
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

See, the thing is, Trump’s praise for Putin is a feature, not a bug. He has long admired Putin’s strongman tendencies and the power he exerts over his people.

Which means you shouldn’t buy what Graham is selling here. Mistakes are things people do unintentionally and then try to fix. Trump’s praise for Putin’s invasion doesn’t fit that bill.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-ukraine-graham/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4788 on: March 05, 2022, 12:46:24 AM »
The J6 committee says Trump did some criming and a newly emerged video suggests Roger Stone knew it



We learned this week the J6 committee is investigating former President Donald Trump and his advisor John Eastman for the same offense many foot soldiers of the insurrection are charged with.

The committee suspects Trump and Eastman obstructed an official proceeding, a felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

So many J6 insurgents are charged with this crime that Buzzfeed ran a trend piece on the phenomenon. Some insurgents already pleaded guilty and others failed in their attempts to get the charge thrown out.

A charge of disrupting an official proceeding would be a straightforward way to bridge the gap between the shock troops at the United States Capitol and the orchestrators of the insurrection.

If ordinary goons are guilty of disrupting an official proceeding by rushing the seat of government, then arguably the ringleaders who incited them to do so are guilty as well.

This charge might also fit the procedural coup into the framework of criminal law. The J6 committee’s blueprint for criminal prosecutions comes as new details have emerged about the culpability of Roger Stone, the architect of Trump’s “Stop the Steal” movement. However, we’re still a long way from seeing any of these guys stand trial.

The Post reviewed documentary footage of Stone by a Danish filmmaking crew made while he watched the insurrection unfold on television in a Washington hotel. According to the Post: “On the day of the attack, as he packed his bags, Stone told the filmmakers the riot was a mistake and would be ‘really bad’ for the pro-Trump movement.”

On the eve of the 2020 election, however, he seemed to welcome the prospect of clashes with left-wing activists. In a recorded conversation, as an aide spoke of driving trucks into crowds of racial justice protesters, Stone said: “Once there’s no more election, there’s no reason why we can’t mix it up. These people are going to get what they’ve been asking for.”

Seemingly aware of the crimes he and his goons were committing, Stone “lobbied for Trump to enact the ‘Stone Plan’ — a blanket presidential pardon to shield himself, Trump’s allies in Congress and ‘the America First movement’ from prosecution” for the insurrection.

Trump did pardon Stone.

The rest of the J6 insurgents were not so lucky.

The J6 committee tipped its hand in a brief filed in federal court in California on Wednesday. This is a civil case where the select committee is asking a judge to review the 11,000 documents Eastman is withholding in the name of attorney-client privilege.

These documents can be expected to deepen the committee’s understanding of the well-established Trump-Eastman plot to disrupt the certification of the 2020 election by enlisting Mike Pence to abort the ceremony on legally specious grounds in order to send the vote “back to the states” on an equally flimsy pretext.

Eastman is a lawyer, at least for now, but it’s not clear he was acting as Trump’s attorney when he schemed with the former president.

In any case, attorney-client privilege doesn’t apply to advising clients how to commit crimes, let alone chatter about crimes a client and a lawyer do together.

So the J6 committee’s lawyers listed all the crimes they have good reason to think Trump and Eastman teamed up for.

The committee doesn’t have to prove Eastman and Trump are guilty. So far, it’s just asking the judge to look over Eastman’s supposedly privileged trove of documents to see if they contain any evidence of these alleged crimes.

If so, the argument goes, those documents aren’t really privileged and Eastman must hand them over.

To prove Eastman and Trump committed the crimes they are alleged to have committed, a hypothetical prosecutor would have to show they knew they were breaking the law, and possibly also that they knew claims of massive election fraud, the ones that formed the pretext for the procedural coup, were false.

If Pence had aborted certification on their orders, it would certainly have interrupted an official proceeding. But did Trump and Eastman know they were committing a crime when they badgered Pence to do so, as opposed to pursuing a dubious legal/political strategy?

The ignoble fiction running through this whole saga is that Eastman was simply giving Trump advice on how to legally send the election “back to the states.” In this case, the line between crankery and criminality would be blurry.

However, in one of his infamous memos, Eastman acknowledges that his plan is legally questionable at best. He falsely asserts that because Joe Biden stole the election, Team Trump is entitled to ignore “Queensbury Rules,” ie, the rules against fighting dirty.

The fact that Eastman invoked the Fifth Amendment 146 times in his testimony to the J6 committee means the former law professor believes discussing his actions in this case would incriminate him.

The brief makes a compelling argument that Trump knew, or should have known, that his claims of massive election fraud were false.

After all, he was informed by everyone from his campaign data analyst to his senior appointees at the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security to state-level elections investigators – everyone said he lost fair and square.

The J6 committee has no authority to charge anyone with a crime on its own, but depending on what their investigation reveals, the committee may ultimately make a criminal referral to the DOJ.

It can’t force it to open a criminal investigation on Trump or anyone else, but such a referral would put significant pressure on US Attorney General Merrick Garland to launch a criminal probe.

https://www.rawstory.com/the-j6-committee-says-trump-did-some-criming-and-a-newly-emerged-video-suggests-roger-stone-knew-it/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4789 on: March 05, 2022, 12:37:33 PM »
New documents show Trump thought he'd get away with his crimes



There is one simple reason why Donald Trump orchestrated his coup — one which led to a violent insurrection on January 6, 2021: He didn't think he'd ever face consequences for doing so.

A document filed by the January 6 committee with a California federal court on Wednesday confirmed it. The document is filed on a narrow question about obtaining documents from likely Trump co-conspirator John Eastman, who is claiming attorney-client privilege. But that privilege doesn't give lawyers the right to conspire to commit crimes with their clients, which is exactly what the committee alleges Eastman and Trump were doing.

"The Select Committee also has a good-faith basis for concluding that the President and members of his Campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States."

Late Thursday, the New York Times published an analysis of the evidence for this claim presented in the filing, and unsurprisingly, it's damning and extensive. Through multiple witnesses and documents, the Times shows that Trump was repeatedly informed that his election loss was real. It also shows that Trump's claims of "fraud" were based on nothing. When advisors shot down his conspiracy theories, he just kept making up new ones. This is not the behavior of someone who has sincere reason to believe that an election was fraudulent. This is a person perpetuating a lie and trying to falsify evidence to support it.

But the most chilling detail in the New York Times breakdown is what former Justice Department official Richard Donoghue described as Trump's rationale for attempting to overthrow democracy. "The president said something to the effect of: 'What do I have to lose?'"

"'If I do this, what do I have to lose?'" Donoghue told the committee Trump asked.

Donoghue further says he pleaded with Trump not to "hurt the country," but of course, that plea fell on deaf ears. Trump is a sociopathic narcissist. Of course, he wasn't going to be affected by appeals to the greater good, or feel compelled by his own oath to uphold democracy. Trump cares about one thing and one thing only — always has and always will: Donald J. Trump. At this late date, anyone who denies this is a liar or delusional to the point of madness.

What matters here, however, is the deep assurance Trump had that he would never face a real consequence — neither politically, nor legally, and certainly not criminally — for perpetuating a massive crime against democracy.

And why shouldn't he think that?

Trump has been criming his entire life, and never faced anything like a serious consequence. As the New York Times has repeatedly shown in its reporting, Trump has been a massive tax fraud his whole career. He doesn't even bother to deny it, but brags about how defrauding the government and other taxpayers is a "sport" and makes him "smart." He's been accused of sexual harassment, assault, and rape by over two dozen women. But we don't have just their testimony to rely on to believe them, because Trump himself bragged about it on the infamous "grab 'em by the p***y" tape. Even when one of his illegal schemes comes back to bite him — as happened when he was forced to settle out of court with defrauded customers of his "Trump University" grift — the consequences are insufficient to actually be felt. Hell, he's even managed to get the Republican National Committee to pay his legal bills so that he can keep wasting his money on golf courses.

It's not just that Trump commits crimes because he knows he'll get away with them. I'd argue that getting away with it is a big part of what motivates him to commit crimes. It's the thrill of getting one over on everyone else. It's the feeling of power it gives him, realizing that he can get away with stuff anyone else would go to jail for. He doesn't even hide that, as all the bragging about tax fraud and s**ual assault shows. And he will not stop committing crimes — including re-attempting a coup — unless someone actually stops him.

As the New York Times analysis shows, one of the biggest obstacles in prosecuting Trump will be "the question of his state of mind at the time." Obviously, Trump knew full well that he lost the election and his claims otherwise are just the latest in a lifetime of lying. But he also has the instinct of self-preservation that flows from a lifelong habit of committing crimes. It appears he was careful never to tip his hand to the fact that he knew he was lying to anyone who could be a criminal witness against him. Instead, he would just keep reiterating his claim that the election was a "fraud" and expect the person he was badgering to pick up on his underlying wish, which was for someone to falsify the evidence to support his lies.

It's the same strategy Trump used in trying to exhort Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy into faking evidence to smear Joe Biden in the 2020 campaign. He never directly asked Zelenskyy to counterfeit evidence, but instead says, "I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation." Similarly, when Trump pressured Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to falsify votes, he never directly demands it. Instead, he asked Raffensperger to "find" the votes. The meaning of the ask is clear, but Trump always carefully uses language that lawyers can later use to quibble over his intent.

As law professor Alan Rozenshtein told the New York Times, "A finder of fact could conclude that Trump is so uniquely narcissistic and self-absorbed that he actually thought the election had been stolen." Which was no doubt the defense Trump had in mind when he carefully made sure to talk in that sideways way he loves to use when engaging in one of his many conspiracies and frauds. But we can know from context that lying and not delusion is the explanation for Trump's claims of a "stolen" election. Trump was claiming that the election was "rigged" for months before the election even happened. That is not the behavior of a man who saw evidence of fraud and is raising the alarm. That's the behavior of a man who plans to commit fraud and is laying the groundwork for his lies.

In February, Trump let the mask slip a little, by releasing a statement asserting that his former vice president "Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome." That is, of course, another lie. But in lying about the law, he let slip the truth about his state of mind when he revealed that he intended to "change the outcome." His lawyers likely panicked, because Trump released another statement insisting what he meant was that Pence could "send back the votes for recertification or approval." But no one of good faith believes this. He just got over his skis in his dashed-off statement, and the truth about his intent slipped out, which thankfully the Jan. 6 committee is seizing on.

Still, Trump is a slippery mofo who has a lifetime of experience getting away with crime. That is likely fueling what increasingly looks like a troubling reluctance on the part of Attorney General Merrick Garland to actually prosecute Trump. If so, that's a massive mistake.

It's abundantly clear that nothing will stop Trump but a threat of consequences, one that has teeth. He is not constrained by morality, as he has none. He is not constrained by the Republican Party, which has made it clear they will assist Trump in his anti-democratic efforts and cover up for any crimes he commits along the way. It may be hard to prosecute him, but it is literally the only hope we have of stopping him from attempting another coup. With the full support of the GOP behind him next time he tries to overthrow democracy, he'll likely succeed.

"What do I have to lose?" is basically Trump's motto. If he never gets an answer, he will never stop.

https://www.rawstory.com/new-documents-show-trump/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4790 on: March 05, 2022, 12:54:55 PM »
John Bolton destroys Trump supporters' argument on Ukraine in new interview



Supporters of Donald Trump have argued that Vladimir Putin never would have invaded Ukraine if the Republican had not lost the 2020 election were undermined by the administration's former National Security Advisor.

"Former national security adviser John Bolton told The Washington Post Friday that he thinks former president Donald Trump would have pulled the United States out of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization had he been reelected in 2020," the newspaper reported. "Bolton, in an interview with Post opinions editor at large Michael Duffy, said the former president came close to pulling the United States out of NATO in 2018, a claim he originally made in a memoir published in 2020. In his book, Bolton wrote that he had to convince Trump not to quit NATO in the middle of a 2018 summit."

Bolton, who served as ambassador to the United Nations during the Bush Administration, succeeded H.R. McMaster as Trump's third National Security Advisor.

“In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO,” Bolton said. “And I think [Russian President Vladimir] Putin was waiting for that.”

This was not the first time Bolton undermined claims about Ukraine from Trump supporters.

"John Bolton pushes back on Newsmax host: "[Trump] barely knew where Ukraine was...It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians"

Watch: https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1498668151827054596

Read the full report here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/04/bolton-says-trump-might-have-pulled-us-out-nato-if-he-had-been-reelected/

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John Bolton tells the Washington Post⁩ Trump was just waiting for a 2nd term before pulling out of NATO and destroying the alliance now trying to counter Putin’s war.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4791 on: March 06, 2022, 01:40:32 AM »
Trump often compliments Putin.  It was part of his tactic to appeal to his ego. A tactic that avoided war during his administration.
 
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Totally false.

Donnie is weak Putin stooge. Putin was carrying on his war against Ukraine right under Donnie's nose for 4 years.

Now, how do you answer that? 

John Bolton: "Putin was fueling a war in eastern Ukraine throughout Trump's presidency."

Phony?  It's a direct quote taken from his CPAC speech.  Anyone can watch it and conclude which of us is telling the truth.  Trump often compliments Putin. It was part of his tactic to appeal to his ego. A tactic that avoided war during his administration. How are things working out under Biden?  He is two for two with Russian invasions during both the Obama and now his own failed administration. Trump has, in no uncertain terms, condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Just posting a lot of nonsesnse over and over again does not change that. Sean Hannity suggested that Putin be assassinated.  That doesn't sound like he is supporting Putin. But again, here is a direct quote from Trump on the issue.  Anyone can read it for themselves and reach a conclusion on which of us is telling the truth:

"The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling, it's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.  We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all."

Donald J. Trump (statement on 02/26/22)


John Bolton debunked this nonsense you posted. Putin didn't need to invade Ukraine then because Donnie was doing everything possible to soften up Ukraine for a future invasion. Putin was carrying on a war with Ukraine right under Donnie's nose for 4 years. So your claim is easily debunked.     

Donnie's former national security advisor, John Bolton said Donnie complained about all the sanctions his administration put on Russia, and he did nothing to deter Putin from invading Ukraine. He also said Putin was waiting for Donnie's second term to invade Ukraine because Donnie was going to pull out of NATO to appease his puppet master Putin. An anti American traitor.   

And even Mike Pence called out Donnie for praising Putin.

Criminal Donald praises Putin because he is a Russian asset who gave Putin whatever he wanted including our air force bases in Syria. So finally, Donnie puts out a phony condemnation after the entire world was bashing him for 3 days on Twitter but he refused to even mention Putin by name. Then he went right back to praising Putin again. It's the same scam he used when he pretended to condemn white nationalists in Charlottesville but then called them "very fine people" the next day. Sean Hannity changed his tune after he saw public outrage over the support of Putin but Faux Propaganda still allows Putin apologists on the air pushing Pro Kremlin talking points.


Former National Security Advisor John Bolton says 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton said on Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin was waiting for former President Donald Trump to withdraw the United States from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization if he had won a second term.

Bolton made the remarks during a virtual event with the Washington Post on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, where Bolton mostly offered critiques of current President Joe Biden's foreign policy in the region. At the end of the event, he was asked by the Post's Michael Duffy about how close Trump came to withdrawing the country from NATO, a translantic security alliance that includes the United States, Canada, and most of Europe.

"I thought he put his foot over it, but at least he didn't withdraw then," said Bolton, who wrote in his memoir about Trump's consideration of withdrawing from NATO in 2018. "In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO. And I think Putin was waiting for that."

Trump viewed NATO as a liability during his presidency, believing that European countries were not paying enough of their fair share of the burden of providing defense to the alliance. Bolton, a State Department official during the George W. Bush administration, was brought on to be Trump's national security advisor in 2018 only to be ousted a year and a half later.

Bolton's latest comments come just days after he told Newsmax that Trump "barely knew where Ukraine was," pushing back on a host who said the former president had been "tough on Russia."

Asked whether he was satisfied by how the Trump administration handled Ukraine, Bolton criticized his former boss.

"I think it went very badly," said Bolton. "It was hard to have discussions on geostrategic issues when the president's main interest was getting...  Rudy Giuliani in to see [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky so they could go find Hillary Clinton's computer server.

He added that Ukraine's position in the "maelstrom of American presidential politics" in the last few years made it difficult for Zelensky to establish a proper relationship with the United States, which Bolton said was Ukraine's "potentially most important supporter."

Trump was impeached for the first time over his withholding of $400 million in military aid to Ukraine in order to pressure Zelensky to launch an investigation into Biden and his son Hunter over allegations of corruption.

Bolton said on Friday that former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and former Defense Secretary Mark Esper were concerned by Trump's behavior at the time. "All of us felt that we needed to bolster Ukraine's security, and were appalled at what Trump was doing," he said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trump-to-withdraw-from-nato-in-2nd-term-2022-3


Mike Pence: No room in GOP for 'apologists for Putin'

Former Vice President Mike Pence on Friday will rebuke those in the Republican Party who have praised Russian President Vladimir Putin in recent weeks, including most prominently former President Trump.

"There is no room in this party for apologists for Putin. There is only room for champions of freedom," Pence will tell a gathering of Republican National Committee (RNC) donors, according to excerpts shared with The Hill.

The comments from Pence are a tacit criticism of Trump and others who have complimented Putin's intelligence and strategy as he directed Russia to invade Ukraine without provocation.

Trump last week said on a radio show that Putin's decision to unilaterally declare portions of eastern Ukraine as independent republics was "pretty savvy" and "genius." Putin's recognition of those territories preceded a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo earlier this year also referred to Putin as a "talented statesman" with "lots of gifts."

And Tucker Carlson, an influential Fox News host, questioned why Americans should hate Putin and described Ukraine as a country essentially managed by the U.S. government.

Those comments have drawn blowback from many in the Republican Party, especially as Russia has escalated its attacks on Ukraine and indiscriminately fired missiles at civilian centers and a nuclear facility, raising the risk of catastrophic casualties.

Trump shifted his tone earlier this week, calling Russia's invasion of Ukraine "a holocaust."
   
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/596926-pence-no-room-in-gop-for-apologists-for-putin


Russians Take Over 3rd U.S. Base in Northern Syria
December 26, 2019

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russians-take-over-3rd-us-base-in-northern-syria


And here is anti American traitor Faux "News" Russian stooge Douglas MacGregor pushing pro Kremlin propaganda on Faux today.

Liz Cheney @Liz_Cheney
Douglas MacGregor, nominated by Trump as ambassador to Germany; appointed by Trump as sr advisor to the Secretary of Defense, says Russian forces have been “too gentle” and “I don’t see anything heroic” about Zelensky.

This is the Putin wing of the GOP.


Watch:

https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1500225329595617286

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4791 on: March 06, 2022, 01:40:32 AM »