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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #792 on: July 26, 2020, 05:05:46 PM »
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Trump knows his reelection chances are in trouble, so now he's trying to confuse Americans and erode trust in our elections


In 2016, then-candidate Trump tried to sow discord and confusion about the election in the face of long electoral odds.

Now, facing a possible defeat in November, President Trump is using that same playbook to confuse Americans and undermine their faith in the election.

By raising doubt about the validity of the election, Trump is harming our democracy in an attempt to try and preserve his power.

Four years ago, facing almost certain electoral defeat, then-candidate Donald Trump mused that he might not accept the outcome of the election. Given our nation's long tradition of peaceful transitions of power, Trump's remarks were one more red flag we all watched flapping in the wind but refused to take seriously.

His words then had real-world effects. Wikileaks, Russian troll-farms and seedy Facebook groups stoked fear among voters that the election would indeed be stolen from Trump. Conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton, her emails, Seth Rich and all of the ugliness the Trump-Fox News-Steve Bannon circle of hell could conjure up injected a level of uncertainty and doubt never before seen in our politics.

In 2020, now President Donald Trump is at it again. This time, Trump, his White House, and his campaign are playing a double game.

In a recent interview on Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace asked Trump directly if he would accept the outcome of this November's election. At any other time in history with any other president, the answer would be: "Yes, of course. I'll accept the will of the American people." But at this time and with this president the answer was, instead: "No. I have to see."

Trump doesn't care about the American people. That much is clear from his inability to respond to the coronavirus crisis, plan for rebuilding a shattered economy, or doing the first thing to heal a country in the throes of its worst racial unrest in generations.

Trump's impairment stretches to understanding how the American electoral system actually works. For him, like everything in life, an election is performative – the outcome doesn't really matter, so there's no point worrying about the details.

What Trump does know, intimately, is that there are millions of Americans out there are who believe the deep state is out to get them and to rig the election in favor of a "well-known socialist plant" like former Vice President Joe Biden.

When he says that mail-in voting is regularly abused by fraudulent voters, Trump knows he's not telling the truth, but he's never claimed he was. When he brings in the Attorney General of the United States, Bill Barr, to back up those charges with the imprimatur of the Justice Department, the president is not worried about which individual Americans vote.

He instinctually knows that the further he degrades and delegitimizes the process, the less people are likely to turn out. For a president sitting at 38% approval nationally, his only hope of reelection at this moment is for tens of millions of Americans to sit out November, again.

Ironically, it was the Republican Party that for years mastered the art and science of identifying voters who were eligible to vote absentee, contacting them directly and repeatedly, and thereby making their targeting more efficient and allowing them to bank votes well before Election Day.

It is not unusual to see Trump rail against mail-in ballots on Twitter on the same day his campaign emails its supporters pleading with them to fill out their absentee ballot application. These mixed signals confuse voters, give his staff and supporters their marching orders and give new shadowy groups such as QAnon the ability to stir up confusion, disorder and distrust across numerous, unseen social media accounts.

While Trump himself is incapable of playing a double game, he instinctually understands the dynamics at play in America, today. About 35% of the country will do and say anything he asks of them, amplified by conservative media outlets. Trump also lives and dies by the zero-sum game. He doesn't have to win by much, just enough to make sure everyone else loses. 

Perhaps this is where Trump has done the most long-lasting institutional damage to the country. Democracies are tests of faith. Millions of people must believe that the system we've collectively agreed to, works for us. They must believe elections are fair and free of interference.

Trump preys on the weakness and suspicions of those Americans the system has failed. In November, we must show them that those of us that believe in this country far outnumber those that would hasten its downfall with four more years of Donald Trump.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #793 on: July 26, 2020, 05:10:34 PM »
Vote for the Democrats, vote for the slaughter of African Americans.


Offline Gerry Down

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #794 on: July 26, 2020, 05:17:02 PM »
How is Biden going to explain during three debates that he is accused of rape?

I think most americans aren't even aware of the rape allegations yet.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #795 on: July 26, 2020, 05:26:25 PM »

  I wanna Know how "Fuzzy" Joe can call Trump a "Racist" when Fuzzy gave a Fawning Eulogy for Head Klansman Sen Bob Byrd? Trump should continually be driving that home amidst the Black Trump Supporter having his Head blown off/Executed in broad daylight. And people want to dispute there being "Secret" Trump Supporters while this Intimidation is going down for everyone to see?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #796 on: July 26, 2020, 05:29:25 PM »
Trump should continually be driving that home amidst the Black Trump Supporter having his Head blown off/Executed in broad daylight.

A black Trump supporter was shot? Haven't heard this. Did this really happen?

Update. Here is the story:
https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/black-trump-supporter-bernell-trammell-shot-dead-in-milwaukee/
« Last Edit: July 26, 2020, 05:40:53 PM by Gerry Down »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #797 on: July 26, 2020, 05:48:21 PM »
Storing? How’s barber college working out? I’m assuming you enrolled. We on this thread aren’t hearing anymore about your “internals”. You reek of desperation at this point. I still will put $1000 wager on the table. That’s a lot of haircuts old man.  :D

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #798 on: July 26, 2020, 06:01:14 PM »
A black Trump supporter was shot? Haven't heard this. Did this really happen?

Update. Here is the story:
https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/black-trump-supporter-bernell-trammell-shot-dead-in-milwaukee/

From the NY Post article;

A new GOP outreach office – opened this year to try to make inroads into the African-American electorate – is just blocks from the building where Trammell lived and was killed, Hitt said.

“This is personal,” he told The Post.

Hitt, a former Milwaukee prosecutor, turned to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Wisconsin Friday, in the face of silence from the city’s police department.

“I know how these investigations work,” he said. “The lack of information is concerning. We don’t know any of the circumstances of how he was murdered.”


The circumstances of the killing are not known, but the GOP doesn't waste a second to politicize the murder!

Go figure....

Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #799 on: July 26, 2020, 06:05:54 PM »
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic-unemployment-is-at-a-record-low.html

Black and Hispanic unemployment is at a record low

Corona sidelined progress but it remains nevertheless true, lowest black unemployment rate ever, lowest rates ever for minorities on record at least has been under Trump.

Democrats? Cities like Minneapolis burn down. feces on the sidewalk in San Francisco, yeah, really good.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #799 on: July 26, 2020, 06:05:54 PM »