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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1032 on: July 28, 2020, 11:54:59 PM »
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President Trump is down in the polls. The Republican National Convention is mostly canceled. And now, some Republicans are contemplating the unthinkable: Would they be better off losing in November and rebuilding for 2024?

Did it ever occur to those geniuses to nominate somebody else?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1033 on: July 29, 2020, 12:04:31 AM »
  Point is, slandering Trump a "Racist" has been Fake News fodder for Years.

It’s not slander if it’s true.

Robert Byrd renounced his former involvement with the Klan:

"I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."

Trump has never apologized for a damn thing.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1034 on: July 29, 2020, 12:13:31 AM »
   Maybe if YOU had actually watched the Barr Q/A YOU would have Your OWN Opinion to voice vs Parroting the opinion of others?
   Photos of the shooter that Executed the Black Trump Supporter in Wisconsin have been posted by law enforcement. This blatant attempt to Intimidate Trump's burgeoning Black Support, makes obvious the gains he is making in Black Communities.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1035 on: July 29, 2020, 12:18:24 AM »
   Maybe if YOU had actually watched the Barr Q/A YOU would have Your OWN Opinion to voice vs Parroting the opinion of others?
   Photos of the shooter that Executed the Black Trump Supporter in Wisconsin have been posted by law enforcement. This blatant attempt to Intimidate Trump's burgeoning Black Support, makes obvious the gains he is making in Black Communities.

Link to photo please?....

Oh yeah, I forgot.... you don't do my work for me, right? The standard answer for when you tell a lie

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1036 on: July 29, 2020, 12:20:09 AM »
  Hilarious. AFTER the KKK takes the path of the Dodo Bird, Bob Byrd renounces them. This is like Al Capone disavowing organized crime before going on trial for tax evasion. Both playing to Juries of their peers.

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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1037 on: July 29, 2020, 12:24:13 AM »
Link to photo please?....

Oh yeah, I forgot.... you don't do my work for me, right? The standard answer for when you tell a lie

He will run and hide from your question Tom. It’s who he is. He lies then runs. Comes back, lies again and runs. SOP.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1038 on: July 29, 2020, 12:24:45 AM »
  Hilarious. AFTER the KKK takes the path of the Dodo Bird, Bob Byrd renounces them. This is like Al Capone disavowing organized crime before going on trial for tax evasion. Both playing to Juries of their peers.

And the incoherent babble just keeeeeps on coming.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1039 on: July 29, 2020, 12:26:06 AM »
  You HATERS should be watching AG Barr Testify. The Dems are displaying why they are gonna lose in Nov. Hysterical Yelling, and just had a Dem Congresswoman accuse AG Barr of MURDER.  Completely Hysterically outta control Dems

   Maybe if YOU had actually watched the Barr Q/A YOU would have Your OWN Opinion to voice vs Parroting the opinion of others?
   Photos of the shooter that Executed the Black Trump Supporter in Wisconsin have been posted by law enforcement. This blatant attempt to Intimidate Trump's burgeoning Black Support, makes obvious the gains he is making in Black Communities.

Attorney General William Barr made false statements repeatedly in his House Judiciary Committee testimony today, inaccurately claiming at least three times that Roger Stone's criminal trial and sentencing judge, Amy Berman Jackson, agreed with Barr's intervention in the sentencing of Stone.

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https://www.axios.com/bill-barr-trump-tweets-roger-stone-c30f642e-5b00-4bae-9f20-78bc2946c9d6.html
Barr says he hasn't seen Trump tweet praising Roger Stone for not flipping
WATCH THE VIDEO

Attorney General Bill Barr told the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday that he does not read President Trump's tweets after being grilled by Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) about the president's praise for Roger Stone for not testifying against him.
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1069619316319035392


Why it matters: Barr has previously said that Trump's "constant background commentary" about the Justice Department can "make it impossible" for him to do his job. Stone was convicted of lying to Congress about his efforts to find out more about the timing of WikiLeaks' email dumps and recently had his sentence commuted by Trump.

The big picture: Trump testified in written answers to former special counsel Robert Mueller that he did not recall discussing WikiLeaks with Stone. Evidence from Stone's trial
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/trump-had-call-with-roger-stone-about-wikileaks-rick-gates-says.html
and recently unredacted material from the Mueller report suggest the opposite.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/roger-stone-warned-trump-wikileaks-clinton-dump

Stone later told journalist Howard Fineman: "I had 29 or 30 conversations with Trump during the campaign period. He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him. It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn’t. They wanted me to play Judas. I refused."
Democrats have accused Trump of commuting Stone's sentence to ensure that Stone would not incriminate him.

The exchange:

SWALWELL: "If Donald Trump lied to the Mueller investigators, which you agree would be a crime, then Roger Stone was in a position to expose Donald Trump's lies. Are you familiar with the Dec. 3, 2018, tweet where Donald Trump said Roger Stone had shown guts by not testifying against him?"
BARR: "No, I am not familiar with that."

SWALWELL: "You don't read the president's tweets?"
BARR: "No."
SWALWELL: "Well there's a lot of evidence in the president's tweets, Mr. Attorney General, I think you should start reading them."

Barr went on to make the disgraceful and possibly unprecedented observation that a serious charge Roger Stone was convicted of by a jury, witness tampering, was trivial, in his opinion!

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Barr clashes with Democrats over policing and Roger Stone sentencing at fiery Hill hearing
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Updated 2139 GMT (0539 HKT) July 28, 2020

.....Several Democrats pushed Barr on getting involved in the Stone case, questioning his decision to lessen the line prosecutors' recommendation, which prompted the prosecutors to leave the case.
"Mr. Attorney General, he threatened the life of a witness," Rep. Ted Deutch of Florida said to Barr, a reference to Stone's threats to Randy Credico.
"The judge agreed with me," Barr responded, arguing Credico did not actually feel threatened and a sentencing enhancement wasn't warranted.....

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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/06/randy-credico-roger-stone-bill-barr-donald-trump/
A Key Witness Against Roger Stone Says William Barr Twisted

Jun 26, 2020 - Randy Credico still says Stone threatened him. ... in a controversy over Attorney General William Barr's politicization of the Justice Department.

NPR policed its own, earlier failure to challenge Barr's repeated deception when questioned by an NPR reporter!

William Barr's mendacity today was so bold, he attempted to drown out questioning by House Committee member Eric Smallwell by repeating the same false claim about Stone's sentencing judge that was debunked weeks ago.:

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“HINKY:” NPR PERMITTED BILLY BARR TO LIE MORE THAN ONCE
July 17, 2020
- by emptywheel
The other day, NPR’s public editor did a piece exploring
https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2020/07/16/890401446/npr-let-the-us-attorney-general-tell-a-falsehood-on-the-air?t=1594970751009
how the NPR allowed itself to spread Billy Barr’s lies about vote by mail uncontested. It reviews the exchange, noting where Steve Inskeep did not ask obvious follow-ups.
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....Given that Barr primarily does interview with old friends from the Poppy Administration or propaganda outlet, I’m grateful that NPR reviewed this interview and laid out how Barr has successfully, relentlessly lied to the American people.

But they should have gone one step further, and noted all the other times Barr lied to Inskeep. And even before he lied about vote-by-mail, he falsely claimed that his interventions in both the Mike Flynn and Roger Stone case was proper. In the Stone case, for example, he explained his intervention in the sentencing recommendation because there was a dispute.

I was the decision maker in that case because there was a dispute. And usually what happens is, disputes, especially in high profile cases, come up to the attorney general.

To the extent there was a dispute, it was only because he had removed the Senate confirmed US Attorney and put in someone he told to dispute the sentencing guidelines. NPR also let Barr claim that his recommendation is what Amy Berman Jackson adopted, which is not at all true (she adopted most of the prosecutors’ guidelines sentence but gave Stone a lenient sentence on her own).

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-judge-agreed-with-me-barr-roars-after-house-democrat-questions-his-handling-of-roger-stone-case


Worse still, NPR let Barr claim as fact that there was a lot hinky with Flynn’s case.

There was a lot of hinky stuff in the Flynn case. Everyone knew that. Everyone was wondering why was this case ever brought?

That’s not only false, but both DOJ Inspector General and Judge Emmet Sullivan had reviewed it and found nothing “hinky.” Effectively, Barr put in a flunkie to override the judgement of those people who are supposed to assess whether something is hinky.

Importantly, only people who haven’t consulted the public record believe that — which is why it is so dangerous for NPR to let the claim go unchallenged. So here, as with the vote-by-mail, Inskeep simply gave Barr the opportunity to provide false excuses for unprecedented abuse of power.

And the public editor should note that.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1039 on: July 29, 2020, 12:26:06 AM »