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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1088 on: July 29, 2020, 11:15:29 PM »
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   YES, HCQ has been Proven to be effective when used Early-On vs Corona. Widen Your sources of Information.

Stop lying and pay attention to the real news instead of parroting the crap Trump puts out there.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1089 on: July 29, 2020, 11:18:29 PM »
Merely showing the exodus of Trump 2016 voters who now reject him and will vote for Biden. Check out YouTube and you'll find lots of them. The number of video confessions is growing every day. Each one is a lost vote for Trump which means his base is getting smaller fast and he has nobody to replace these people with.

Never in the history of the country has a President united so many voters/members of his own party against him in just one term. All the GOP members/voters that now turn their back on him will vote for Biden, and all Trump can do is whine on television why nobody loves him...... It's hilarious!

    So Now YOU are using "YouTube" and "Twitter" to validate claims?  Better get a parachute Quick. YOU have been forced into a Freefall.

Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1090 on: July 29, 2020, 11:20:38 PM »
   YES, HCQ has been Proven to be effective when used Early-On vs Corona. Widen Your sources of Information.

Translation: Read every wacky QAnon site you can find.

And the incoherent babble just keeeeeps on coming.

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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1092 on: July 29, 2020, 11:22:20 PM »
  Nice try. Your source dates Back to March. There are current Studies Your Fake News Sources have kept from You. Widen your sources of Info.

And the incoherent babble just keeeeeps on coming.


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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1093 on: July 29, 2020, 11:27:08 PM »
Trump’s claims about COVID-19 catching him off guard get busted by former Obama and Bush officials

Travis Gettys

President Donald Trump failed to follow the detailed instructions left by previous administrations for handling a deadly pandemic — and now more than 150,000 people are dead.

Public officials who served in the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations strongly dispute Trump’s claims that “nobody knew there’d be a pandemic,” because they put together “playbooks” and took part in “table-top exercises” to prepare for that likelihood, reported ABC News.

“This current pandemic has really played out in many ways similar to exercises and table-top simulations that we had done many years ago,” said Dr. James Lawler, a former White House National Security Council in both of those previous administrations. “I think, unfortunately, things have played out somewhat predictably.”

Tom Bossert, who served as a homeland security adviser under Bush and then Trump, said the plans he helped craft in the mid-2000s could have helped during the coronavirus pandemic if they had been followed.

“Those strategies and those plans were comprehensive,” said Bossert, who left the Trump administration in April 2018, “and they addressed a number of issues that we’ve now seen unfortunately coming to light.”

Bush became focused on pandemics in 2005, when he was fascinated by a book about the deadly 1918 influenza pandemic, and he asked his team to come up with plans for handling a new public health threat — which came in 2009, when the Obama administration was faced with the swine flu pandemic.

“Everyone thanked me for really insisting that we pursue this level of preparedness,” said Dr. Julie Gerberding, who led the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from 2002 to 2009, but left just before that pandemic. “But the team, in my opinion, in 2009, really demonstrated that the planning was worth it. Nothing is ever perfect. But I felt just so impressed and so proud of the job CDC did in 2009.”

A senior Trump administration official insisted the White House consulted those playbooks, although that official did not offer any specific examples when asked, but Obama’s Ebola response coordinator Ron Klain is certain the current administration did not.

“They didn’t run the plays,” Klain said, “and it would have made a big difference if they had.”

The CDC later credited the Obama administration’s testing and contact tracing system for saving untold thousands of American lives, and Klain said they left behind a step-by-step process for repeating that successful effort with a virus exactly like the one Trump faced.

“On Page Nine of the pandemic playbook,” Klain said, “it said, ‘Hey, here’s something to worry about: a coronavirus.’”

“It said on the front, ‘Pandemic Playbook,’” he added. “I don’t know if the Trump administration didn’t pay attention to the playbook, I don’t know if they didn’t read it, I don’t know if they read it and ignored it.”

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1094 on: July 29, 2020, 11:27:57 PM »
YES, HCQ has been Proven to be effective when used Early-On vs Corona. Widen Your sources of Information.

Bogus disinformation. Post a credible source that supports this. A new study was just completed and this is FALSE. Hydroxychloroquine is not effective  PERIOD. Quit posting blatant health disinformation. 


Hydroxychloroquine flunks Phase III trial in mild-to-moderate Covid-19

The study adds to the growing body of evidence that the drug, promoted early in the pandemic by President Trump, is ineffective, despite its getting a briefly renewed lease on life earlier this month thanks to a retrospective analysis.


July 26, 2020

Results of new clinical trial published late last week have found that hydroxychloroquine – the malaria and autoimmune disease drug that President Donald Trump promoted as a potential “game changer” early in the Covid-19 pandemic – not only failed to improve outcomes in those with mild-to-moderate disease, but also produced a higher rate of cardiac and liver side effects.

Results of the randomized, controlled, open-label Phase III trial, which took place at more than two dozen sites in Brazil, were published in the New England Journal of Medicine on Thursday. The study randomized 667 patients to receive hydroxychloroquine or the drug plus the antibiotic azithromycin on top of standard of care or standard of care alone. When patients were measured on the seven-point ordinal scale of improvement in disease, those in the two hydroxychloroquine groups showed no improvement compared with patients who received standard of care alone. Moreover, those receiving hydroxychloroquine more frequently experienced Qt prolongation and elevation of liver enzymes.

"Among patients hospitalized with mild-to-moderate Covid-19, the use of hydroxychloroquine, alone or with azithromycin, did not improve clinical status in 15 days as compared with standard care,” the authors wrote.

The results add to the growing body of evidence not supporting treatment of Covid-19 with hydroxychloroquine, an analogue of chloroquine, which has also been explored without success in Covid-19. Last month, the Food and Drug Administration revoked an emergency use authorization that it had granted to the drug in late March, a move that had been criticized as motivated more by politics than by science.

The drug nevertheless saw a briefly renewed lease on life earlier this month when researchers at the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit published a retrospective analysis of 2,541 hospitalized Covid-19 patients in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases showing that 13% of those treated with the drug died, compared with 26.4% of those who did not receive it. However, while several right-wing media figures celebrated the data, a review in the same journal pointed to numerous confounding factors that called the purported benefit into question.

And two weeks ago, a post-publication peer review in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents strongly criticized the original paper that spurred interest in the drug, published earlier this year, pointing to numerous methodological flaws rendering it “nearly if not completely uninformative” and denouncing it as “fully irresponsible.”
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1095 on: July 29, 2020, 11:30:41 PM »
  Nice try. Your source dates Back to March.

False.  It's dated 5 June 2020.

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There are current Studies Your Fake News Sources have kept from You. Widen your sources of Info.

Such as?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1095 on: July 29, 2020, 11:30:41 PM »