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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1176 on: August 01, 2020, 04:33:10 AM »
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1176 on: August 01, 2020, 04:33:10 AM »


Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1177 on: August 01, 2020, 04:58:32 AM »
Polls are a snapshot in time. I surely recognize that. Trump’s behavior however is not. We see that each day. We see Pandemic deaths rising. Americans can’t pay their bills. Cannot put food on the table. Job market going under once again. Evictions starting a whole new phase. Trump’s biggest decision? Which golf course to play. I look forward to November.

Trump will lose because how couldn't he, I mean 99% of the posts here say he will lose

THE REASONS WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT OUTCOMES

You'll never learn when you selectively surround yourself with what you want to hear
You don't know the difference between news and commentary
The polls have failed.
You say it's different this time.
It doesn't matter what you think or I think.
It matters what the country thinks, not what you want the county to think. ( What can I say? The country happens to think like me, which tells me the outcome. If the country thought like you, it would be a different outcome, but unfortunately for you, this is not the case)

Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1178 on: August 01, 2020, 05:24:24 AM »
Trump will lose because how couldn't he, I mean 99% of the posts here say he will lose

THE REASONS WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT OUTCOMES

You'll never learn when you selectively surround yourself with what you want to hear
You don't know the difference between news and commentary
The polls have failed.
You say it's different this time.
It doesn't matter what you think or I think.
It matters what the country thinks, not what you want the county to think. ( What can I say? The country happens to think like me, which tells me the outcome. If the country thought like you, it would be a different outcome, but unfortunately for you, this is not the case)

I believe we’re seeing what the country thinks. Unlike 2016 Trump is no longer a secret. He took an oath as I did as a Naval Officer. He has violated that oath to many times to count. You under estimate the mood of America. Fox and OANN can do that. I’m not a Biden fan. I’m an America fan. That automatically makes me opposed to Trump. You a conservative?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1178 on: August 01, 2020, 05:24:24 AM »


Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1179 on: August 01, 2020, 06:25:38 AM »
Trump will lose because how couldn't he, I mean 99% of the posts here say he will lose

THE REASONS WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT OUTCOMES

You'll never learn when you selectively surround yourself with what you want to hear
You don't know the difference between news and commentary
The polls have failed.
You say it's different this time.
It doesn't matter what you think or I think.
It matters what the country thinks, not what you want the county to think. ( What can I say? The country happens to think like me, which tells me the outcome. If the country thought like you, it would be a different outcome, but unfortunately for you, this is not the case)

An observation worth sharing with readers. For several weeks, viewing this forum has been confined to logged in members.

"Mr. Kleinschmidt" had not logged in since April. IOW, no recent posting activity that he could have read could be a catalyst for his sudden return and participation.
Add it up.... is somei other poster, "absent"? Is Arkansas a favorite state of German Americans?

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1180 on: August 01, 2020, 07:38:39 AM »
Trump will lose because how couldn't he, I mean 99% of the posts here say he will lose

THE REASONS WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT OUTCOMES

You'll never learn when you selectively surround yourself with what you want to hear
You don't know the difference between news and commentary
The polls have failed.
You say it's different this time.
It doesn't matter what you think or I think.
It matters what the country thinks, not what you want the county to think. ( What can I say? The country happens to think like me, which tells me the outcome. If the country thought like you, it would be a different outcome, but unfortunately for you, this is not the case)

You say it's different this time.

You may not like it, but of course it is different. In 2016 Clinton voters got complacent and some of them failed to vote because the polls told them Clinton was going to win anyway. Not this time; after all the mysery Trump put the country through, those same people are going to show up to make damned sure it won't happen again. Add to this, all the Republicans who voted for Trump in 2016 and are now turning against him and you've got a completely different political landscape. The problem for Trump is that he is losing support under his 2016 voters and has nowhere to go to pick up new voters. Do the math.

It matters what the country thinks, not what you want the county to think. ( What can I say? The country happens to think like me, which tells me the outcome. If the country thought like you, it would be a different outcome, but unfortunately for you, this is not the case)

You don't have a clue what the country thinks. You did not go around the country and asked people. All this is, is wishful thinking, that you are unable to back up with anything of substance.

You say the polls have failed (whatever that means), but you can not show anything that actually shows them to be wrong.

You overestimate yourself when you believe that you are somehow uniquely capable to "know the difference between news and commentary" and others aren't.

All this comes down to is a biased opinion of somebody who denies outright the validity of all the polls and who selectively determines what is news and what not based upon what he wants to hear.

You'll never learn when you selectively surround yourself with what you want to hear

Says somebody who most likely gets all his "information" from Fox News and OAN

Trump will lose because how couldn't he, I mean 99% of the posts here say he will lose

This is a public forum where anybody is free (within reason) to express their opinion. If Trump is not going to lose, where are all those people who say so? Are those Trump supporters incapable or too afraid to stand up for their belief and defend it in a normal discussion?


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1181 on: August 01, 2020, 08:33:18 AM »
Trump will lose because how couldn't he, I mean 99% of the posts here say he will lose

THE REASONS WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT OUTCOMES

You'll never learn when you selectively surround yourself with what you want to hear
You don't know the difference between news and commentary
The polls have failed.
You say it's different this time.
It doesn't matter what you think or I think.
It matters what the country thinks, not what you want the county to think. ( What can I say? The country happens to think like me, which tells me the outcome. If the country thought like you, it would be a different outcome, but unfortunately for you, this is not the case)


Donald Trump has killed 157,000 Americans and the economy is in shambles. There is no reason to vote for this loser. Another thing that proves he is going to lose, is that "The Turtle" Moscow Mitch McConnell is telling Republicans in Congress to distance themselves from Donald Trump. If Donald Trump was popular, and the "The Turtle"  thought Donald Trump was going to win, he wouldn't be telling his troops be distancing from him. The only reason they are distancing is because Donald Trump is toxic and they don't want to be associated with him. That's the sign of a loser. Also, Biden only needs Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to become President and he has a 9-10 comfortable lead in both states. Donald Trump is losing in both red states of Texas and Georgia. The country does not think like you, which is why BLM is overwhelmingly supported and Donald Trump is losing in a landslide.     


McConnell Tells Vulnerable to Distance from Trump

“Sen. Mitch McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.”

“In recent weeks, the Senate majority leader has become so concerned over Republicans losing control of the Senate that he has signaled to vulnerable GOP senators in tough races that they could distance themselves from the President if they feel it is necessary.”


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1182 on: August 01, 2020, 12:48:07 PM »
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Friday that more than 200 children have tested positive for the coronavirus after attending a summer camp in Georgia at the end of June. That's more than a third of the nearly 600 Georgia residents who attended, according to the CDC's report.


Georgia Governor Brian Kemp issued an executive order on June 11 allowing campers and workers to attend overnight camps if they received a negative COVID-19 test within 12 days of starting camp. The camp ran from June 21 to 27, and more than 500 of the campers and staffers were children ages 17 and younger, the CDC reported. Out-of-state attendees were not included in the CDC's reporting.

On June 24, a teenage staff member who had been experiencing chills while at the camp tested positive for the virus. While campers began to be sent home that same day, the camp did not officially close until three days later, the CDC said.

 While the camp "adopted most components" of the CDC's official suggestions for summer camps, the CDC reported that the camp did not require campers to wear cloth face masks and did not open windows and doors of the buildings to allow increased ventilation. People sleeping in the same cabins and "engaging in regular singing and cheering" also "likely contributed to transmission," the CDC said.

Children between the ages of 6 and 10 had the highest attack rate — the number of positive cases divided by the total number of attendees — at 51%, followed by teens between the ages of 11 and 17 at 44%. But these rates, the CDC said, "are likely an underestimate."

The CDC said that what happened at the camp indicates that "children of all ages are susceptible" to the coronavirus, especially when placed in large group settings, and "might play an important role in transmission."

"Correct and consistent use of cloth masks, rigorous cleaning and sanitizing, social distancing, and frequent hand washing strategies, which are recommended in CDC's recently released guidance to reopen America's schools, are critical to prevent transmission of the virus in settings involving children and are our greatest tools to prevent COVID-19," the CDC added. 

Although the CDC did not identify the camp, CBS affiliate WGCL reported on an outbreak at a Georgia camp in June. On June 24 — the same day that the CDC reported a camp staffer testing positive — a YMCA Camp High Harbour counselor reported testing positive for coronavirus, according to WGCL.

Campers were sent home from the camp over the following few days, according to a statement by YMCA of Metro Atlanta CEO Laurent Koontz. By July 10, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that about 85 people at the camp had tested positive for coronavirus.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1183 on: August 01, 2020, 12:51:00 PM »
Dangerous’ Trump is ‘going down in flames’ and wants to take the country with him: conservative

Tom Boggioni

In his column for the Daily Beast, conservative commentator Matt Lewis claimed that Donald Trump’s professed desire to delay the November election is a sign he knows he’s “going down in flames” and that should worry Republicans and Democrats alike because that makes the president dangerous.

Under a headline proclaiming “Trump Finally Admits That His Election Is Swirling Down the Golden Toilet,” Lewis — who abandoned the Republican Party due to Trump — said the president likely ramped up his claims of a “rigged election” because of terrible economic news on Thursday as a distraction, only to make it obvious to all that he knows he’s going down to defeat.

As Lewis notes, there is little good news on the horizon that will save the president with the coronavirus pandemic still raging across the country and the economy still in collapse, adding that “…changing campaign managers isn’t going to shake things up, and there won’t be a convention ‘bounce’ to help, either.”

After stating Trump is “going down in flames,” Lewis suggested that Trump is at his most dangerous now since he has already shown he cares about nobody but himself.

“If this is Trump conceding to the apparently inevitable, it’s also a dangerous time. People who are forced to finally admit imminent defeat are prone to outbursts and desperate behavior. When those people are the president, and especially this president, things can get dicey,” he wrote before adding, “If the choice is between Trump’s political ambitions and the preservation of this great experiment, there isn’t much of a contest. That’s why Trump thinks it’s safe to send kids back to school amid a pandemic (that helps his re-election chances) but not safe enough to have an election on November 3 (that hurts his re-election chances).”

 Writing, “it’s worth remembering that even if Trump is admitting to the evidently inevitable here, he’s still going to go down swinging,” Lewis wrote now it is just a matter of time for Republicans to flee the president, oppose him and try and save their themselves.

“Trump’s tweet is an open invitation to wavering Republicans to finally jump ship. In recent days, I have noticed commentators like Rich Lowry and Erick Erickson (both originally Trump critics who sidled up to him after the election) create some distance and start to hedge their bets,” he wrote before suggesting, “For the rest of us, it’s important to keep things in perspective. Trump said something truly shocking on Thursday. But it’s mostly shocking because it signals that even he can’t deny that the jig is finally up. It’s now just a matter of time. “

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1183 on: August 01, 2020, 12:51:00 PM »