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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1208 on: August 05, 2020, 02:29:44 AM »
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Imagine a doctor tells you at any American hospital that your loved one has died of COVID-19. In your despair the doctor says to you “it is what it is”. No compassion. No empathy. No humanity. No doctor would likely ever say that. The President of the United States used those words towards 330,000,000 Americans. As an American, as a combat vet never have I been embarrassed or ashamed to be an American. Until I read those words.

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Offline Paul May

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« Reply #1209 on: August 05, 2020, 03:04:19 AM »
Trump began his corona virus press conference today with this news: “the demand for used cars in America is soaring. Demand is tremendous. People are shocked and amazed at the numbers”. Wrong Mr. President. The numbers that shock America are 4 million COVID-19 cases and 156,000 dead Americans. Period.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1212 on: August 05, 2020, 02:24:22 PM »

Good to see Donald fighting against anti Yosemitism.

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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1214 on: August 05, 2020, 09:09:49 PM »
Rule of law, hanging in the balance. Crazies Lindsey and "the Don", ET AL, vs the reality based community....

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510660-trump-knocks-sally-yates-ahead-of-congressional-testimony
Trump knocks Sally Yates ahead of congressional testimony
BY TAL AXELROD - 08/05/20 11:43 AM EDT
...“Sally Yates has zero credibility. She was a part of the greatest political crime of the Century, and ObamaBiden knew EVERYTHING! Sally Yates leaked the General Flynn conversation? Ask her under oath. Republicans should start playing the Democrats game!” Trump tweeted. ...

Trump took nearly a year to ignore this question put to him by Mueller's investigators, despite an army of criminal defense attorneys advising (protecting) Trump from himself...

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6937751/Full-text-Muellers-questions-Trumps-answers.html

What Mueller asked Trump, what he said in reply - and the string of written questions he simply ignored including: did you ask anyone to set up a back channel to Moscow?
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SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE:

g. On July 27, 2016, in response to a question about whether you would recognize Crimea as Russian territory and lift sanctions on Russia, you said: 'We'll be looking at that. Yeah, we'll be looking.' Did you intend to communicate by that statement or at any other time during the campaign a willingness to lift sanctions and/or recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected?

i. What consideration did you give to lifting sanctions and/or recognizing Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected? Describe who you spoke with about this topic, when, the substance of the discussion(s).

TRUMP: = CRICKETS


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https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/05/29/the-boss-is-aware-trump-learned-about-mike-flynns-conversations-with-sergey-kislyak-in-real-time/
“THE BOSS IS AWARE:” TRUMP LEARNED ABOUT MIKE FLYNN’S CONVERSATIONS WITH SERGEY KISLYAK IN REAL TIME
May 29, 2020 - Flynn told McFarland about the substance of his calls with Kislyak ... of the call went to Trump second-hand, perhaps through KT McFarland.

In trumpworld, everything Sally Yates testifies under oath to in today's "hearing" before Sen. Lindsey Graham chaired, judiciary committee, is grounds for a perjury referral to William "I've got my new Roy Cohn" Barr's. DOJ.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/05/politics/sally-yates-testimony-capitol-hill/index.html
Ex-acting AG Sally Yates defends FBI investigation into Flynn, calls Barr move to drop charges 'highly irregular'
Former acting Attorney General Sally Yates pushed back Wednesday on current Attorney General William Barr's move to dismiss charges against President ...
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https://www.npr.org/2020/08/05/899319676/sally-yates-defending-doj-says-michael-flynn-talks-neutered-u-s-russia-policy
Sally Yates, Defending DOJ, Says Michael Flynn Talks Neutered U.S. Russia Policy
The former deputy attorney general said the FBI's interview of Flynn was pertinent to a legitimate investigation, contradicting the Justice Department's rationale ...
NPR
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https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-news-declines-air-sally-yates-debunking-right-wing-conspiracy-theory-under-oath
Fox News declines to air Sally Yates debunking a right-wing ...www.mediamatters.org › fox-news › fox-news-declines...
1 hour ago - “No such thing happened,” Yates swore. The testimony came during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the origins of the Russia ...

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https://www.npr.org/2020/07/30/897205758/full-d-c-appeals-court-agrees-to-take-up-michael-flynn-legal-case
Full D.C. Appeals Court Agrees To Take Up Michael Flynn ...
6 days ago - ... the District of Columbia Circuit says it has scheduled oral arguments in the case of former national security adviser Michael Flynn on Aug. 11.


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Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1215 on: August 05, 2020, 10:12:18 PM »
Imagine a doctor tells you at any American hospital that your loved one has died of COVID-19. In your despair the doctor says to you “it is what it is”. No compassion. No empathy. No humanity. No doctor would likely ever say that. The President of the United States used those words towards 330,000,000 Americans. As an American, as a combat vet never have I been embarrassed or ashamed to be an American. Until I read those words.

This is just crazy talk, detached from all reality. Trump has repeatedly expressed sorrow for those who have died from COVID-19, but he has always provided healthy doses of reality and perspective, as have hundreds of scholars and scientists.

When are you panic peddlers ever going to deal with the fact that the worst death spikes from the virus began 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, and continued for several weeks?

To show how sharply COVID-19 deaths have dropped in recent weeks, and to show that the worst spikes in deaths occurred 3 weeks after the lockdowns began, below are the stats from the CDC’s “Daily Updates” site. Some states imposed lockdowns in the 3rd week of March. By late March, about half the states had imposed lockdowns; nearly all other lockdowns were imposed by April 7. Most states began to reopen in mid-May and late May.

DATE---------------NUMBER OF NEW DEATHS
4/18/2020-------- 16,987
4/25/2020-------- 15,333
5/2/2020---------- 13,046
5/9/2020-----------11,059
5/16/2020--------- 9,060
5/23/2020--------- 7,072
5/30/2020--------- 6,030
6/6/2020----------- 4,899
6/13/2020--------- 4,103
6/20/2020--------- 3,676
6/27/2020--------- 3,553
7/4/2020----------- 4,005
7/11/2020---------- 4,629
7/18/2020---------- 4,608
7/25/2020---------- 2,405
8/1/2020------------ 258

Here’s the URL to the CDC “Daily Updates” page:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/
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