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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1272 on: August 07, 2020, 04:27:26 PM »
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Another great day for Trump and America!  Fantastic job numbers.  The economy is quickly recovering.  And just wait until Old Racist Joe has to pick a VP.  "Benghazi" Rice or Kamala or Kantala Harris.  Two real winners.  Biden is waiting for his paymasters to tell him which it is.  They know she will be President within six months of his election due to his cognitive decline.  I almost feel sorry for Benghazi Rice.  She took one for the team lying for Hillary and Obama about that "video" that she blamed for Benghazi.  That event means she might not be the VP or next President.  Karma is a birch.  :D  The do nothing establishment would put her in power in a heartbeat except for that.
Yes, the Benghazi conspiracy theory. Unproven after multiple investigations.
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I refer everyone to the title of this thread.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1273 on: August 07, 2020, 04:54:32 PM »
Another great day for Trump and America!  Fantastic job numbers.

14 million still out of work and that’s “fantastic” for a Trumper.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1274 on: August 07, 2020, 04:58:39 PM »
Another great day for Trump and America!  Fantastic job numbers.  The economy is quickly recovering.  And just wait until Old Racist Joe has to pick a VP.  "Benghazi" Rice or Kamala or Kantala Harris.  Two real winners.  Biden is waiting for his paymasters to tell him which it is.  They know she will be President within six months of his election due to his cognitive decline.  I almost feel sorry for Benghazi Rice.  She took one for the team lying for Hillary and Obama about that "video" that she blamed for Benghazi.  That event means she might not be the VP or next President.  Karma is a birch.  :D  The do nothing establishment would put her in power in a heartbeat except for that.

What the hell is going on? It seems you can interchange Royell Storing, Peter Kleinschmidt and "Richard Smith" and, from the crappy posts they write, nobody would know the difference. They all must be getting their BS from the same source and copy it mindlessly.

Unable to mention anything positive (and true) about Trump, making stuff up, beating dead horses and totally incapable of telling us why they support Trump and hate America. Sad

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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1275 on: August 07, 2020, 05:18:53 PM »
What the hell is going on? It seems you can interchange Royell Storing, Peter Kleinschmidt and "Richard Smith" and, from the crappy posts they write, nobody would know the difference. They all must be getting their BS from the same source and copy it mindlessly.

Unable to mention anything positive (and true) about Trump, making stuff up, beating dead horses and totally incapable of telling us why they support Trump and hate America. Sad
Well, the Trump campaign supports:
Preserving statues of Confederate traitor " heroes".
Preserving the Confederate ( traitors") flag.
Blue Lives Matter! ( non accountability for all law enforcement )
All Lives Matter ( which can't be true until Black Lives Matter)

Just to name a few things.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1276 on: August 07, 2020, 08:28:27 PM »
Impossible to have any dialogue with a Trump supporter. I’ve asked them all multiple times “why do you support Trump”? Not one response. They all run and hide. They have no honor or regard for our constitution.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1277 on: August 07, 2020, 09:51:04 PM »
Impossible to have any dialogue with a Trump supporter. I’ve asked them all multiple times “why do you support Trump”? Not one response. They all run and hide. They have no honor or regard for our constitution.

The irony of it all is that they constantly complain about socialism, while some at the same time are collecting unemployment benefit and/or have their healthcare covered by Obamacare. But what's even worse is that, rather than build a life of their own, they want to rely on (of all people) Trump to make their lives better....  Now there's a paradox for ya...
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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1278 on: August 07, 2020, 10:51:15 PM »
US officials: Russia denigrating Biden ahead of election

DEB RIECHMANN and ERIC TUCKER

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials believe that Russia is using a variety of measures to denigrate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden ahead of the November election and that individuals linked to the Kremlin are boosting President Donald Trump’s reelection bid, the country’s counterintelligence chief said Friday.

U.S. officials also believe that China does not want Trump to win a second term and that Beijing has accelerated its criticism of the president and its efforts to shape American opinion and public policy.

The statement from William Evanina comes amid criticism from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other congressional Democrats that the intelligence community has been withholding from the public specific intelligence information about the threat of foreign election interference in the upcoming election.

On Russia, U.S. intelligence officials assess that it is working to “denigrate” Biden and what it sees as an anti-Russia “establishment” among his supporters, Evanina said. He said that would track Moscow’s criticism of Biden when he was vice president for his role in Ukraine policies and his support of opposition to President Vladimir Putin inside Russia.

The latest intelligence assessment reflects concerns to varying degrees about China, Russia and Iran, warning that hostile foreign actors may seek to compromise election infrastructure and interfere with the voting process.

Those concerns are especially acute following a wide-ranging effort by Russia to interfere in the 2016 election on Trump’s behalf through both the hacking of Democratic emails and a covert social media campaign aimed at sowing discord among U.S. voters.

“Many foreign actors have a preference for who wins the election, which they express through a range of overt and private statements; covert influence efforts are rarer,” said Evanina, director of the National Counterintelligence Security Center. “We are primarily concerned about the ongoing and potential activity by China, Russia and Iran.”

China views Trump as “unpredictable” and does not want to see him win reelection, Evanina said. China has been expanding its influence efforts ahead of the November election in an effort to shape U.S. policy and pressure political figures it sees as against Beijing, he said.

“Although China will continue to weigh the risks and benefits of aggressive action, its public rhetoric over the past few months has grown increasingly critical of the current administration’s COVID-19 response, closure of China’s Houston consulate and actions on other issues,” he wrote.

On Iran, the assessment said Tehran seeks to undermine U.S. democratic institutions as well as Trump and divide America before the election.

“Iran’s efforts along these lines probably will focus on online influence, such as spreading disinformation on social media and recirculating anti-U.S. content,” Evanina wrote. “Tehran’s motivation to conduct such activities is, in part, driven by a perception that President Trump’s re-election would result in a continuation of U.S. pressure on Iran in an effort to foment regime change.”

Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1279 on: August 07, 2020, 11:02:34 PM »
America is on fire. Trumps claims he can only lose through voting fraud. At this moment I’m guessing Trump can only win through voting fraud.

The second quarter of 2020 was the worst in history. Worse than Herbert Hoover’s days, and we know how that ended. Jobless claims are rising while benefits are expiring. No sleight of hand can turn things around in three months.

The pandemic is flaring up in Wisconsin, which Trump won four years ago. Senator Joni Ernst, an Iowa Republican up for election, is trailing her Democratic challenger Theresa Greenfield in most polls and in fundraising. Two years ago, Ernst’s approval rating was near 60%. Now she is among the least popular senators, suffering the weight of one Donald Trump. In Ohio, the Republican speaker of the House was recently arrested and charged with taking a $60m bribe from a power company; the Ohio needle is moving steadily in Joe Biden’s favor. Polls of rural voters in swing states show Biden winning. He even has the edge in Texas.

Trump started trade wars with China, Mexico and Canada that have flattened manufacturing up and down the Mississippi River. Corn prices are at their lowest level in a decade. Meatpacking workers across the midwest were ordered on to unsafe kill floors, shoulder to shoulder, sending fear shuddering through communities as the coronavirus rages. It is all deeply unsettling, and the polls reflect it. In Iowa, the police chief took a knee with Black Lives Matter protesters in Chautauqua Park. This is not 2016.

Democratic women stirred up a blue wave in 2018 that started by taking over the House and is building into a tsunami that could topple Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell. Sen. Susan Collins is running behind in Maine. How does Senator Martha McSally make up a deficit against Democrat Mark Kelly, a former astronaut married to former congresswoman Gabby Giffords, an Arizona hero who survived an assassination attempt? Montana Governor Steve Bullock is running strong in his Democratic bid for the Senate, and cattlemen are restless under the big sky as big meat racks up record profits at their expense.

Meanwhile, McConnell is inching away from Trump. Their differences were exposed when they failed to come up with an unemployment benefits extension by the deadline on Friday. Millions will feel the pain, landlords and tenants alike. When Trump, in sheer panic, said he might delay the election, McConnell was quick to rebut him. Ernst would not comment.

Biden has offered voters a steady rollout of plans to solve big problems, and with a heavy dose of decency and respect

On the day Trump was suggesting redlining in the suburbs, Barack Obama took the pulpit at Ebenezer Baptist church in Atlanta to eulogize John Lewis and deliver a forceful defense of voting rights. Clearly, Obama is intent on playing a more active role than he did in 2016, particularly in mobilizing black voters. Obama is hardly done talking. Perhaps he might even help turn Georgia.

The pandemic is pretty much out of control. The economy is a wreck, with interest rates near zero. China finally bought some of our corn because it’s so cheap. We are in the grips of a drought that has farmers sweating low yields with low prices. Wildfires are spreading from Arizona to California along with Covid. Our one bright spot, baseball, might even have to shut down just when the Minnesota Twins are on a roll. No way Trump wins Minnesota, one of his flip targets. George Floyd looms large.

In April, Wisconsin Republicans tried to stop voters in a key Wisconsin election for a supreme court justice that was a proxy on Trump – and Trump lost, as stubborn cheeseheads stood in line for hours at great personal infection danger to vote. He desperately needs Wisconsin. But the paper mills are shutting down, dairy operators are drowning in a glut of corporate milk, and furious teachers are organizing like never before.

In a series of legal opinions this spring, US supreme court chief justice John Roberts made clear that he is no presidential patsy. Trump’s abusive tweets came home to roost as the court declared its independence. Roberts had to endure presiding over that nauseating impeachment trial. He will not let Trump steal the election.

People are fed up with being cooped up and knocked down. They want some security right now. Biden has offered voters a steady rollout of plans to solve big problems, and his climate agenda is truly bold. He says he wants to be a “transformational” president, not just transitional. He will follow science to respond to the pandemic. That’s what people want to hear, not whining. “Why don’t they like me?” Trump wondered aloud. Because they don’t. That should be good enough to set this country right.

So long as everybody votes.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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