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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1992 on: October 12, 2020, 09:42:01 AM »
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An analysis of Trump's condition and treatment from Dr Campbell.


As a possibly disturbing follow up to this. Trump's treatment, particularly the use of dexamethadone and his transfer to hospital and periods of low oxygen seem to match more with a case of Covid pneumonia. Note his lung X-rays have not been released and shadowing on them would be conrimative.

The real issue is that this development is usually encountered in the second week of symptoms. If so, when was his last negative test for the virus? Was he knowingly infective during the debate? Major implications if so. Might explain the evasive nature of doctors press conferences.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1993 on: October 12, 2020, 11:12:44 AM »
When the MSN report news that Trump doesn't like, they are "Fake news"

When Chris Wallace asks why the Trump family ignored rules everybody else followed and refused to wear mask during the first debate, he is attacked and accused of not being a neutral moderator

When the Nobel committee decided to give the peace prize to a World Food Program, the Republicans called them stupid and biased against Trump.

When the Election committee cancelled the second the debate after Trump had refused to do the debate virtually, because of his covid infection, they called the committee corrupt

When a judge rules against Trump and/or his cronies they call him/her unfit for office

And when Trump is about to lose the election in a landslide defeat, they claim the Democrats conspire with the media and all sorts of others to stage a coup d'etat.

It is pathetic!

This must be Trump's favorite song;

« Last Edit: October 12, 2020, 02:10:59 PM by Martin Weidmann »

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1994 on: October 12, 2020, 05:42:11 PM »
As a possibly disturbing follow up to this. Trump's treatment, particularly the use of dexamethadone and his transfer to hospital and periods of low oxygen seem to match more with a case of Covid pneumonia. Note his lung X-rays have not been released and shadowing on them would be conrimative.

The real issue is that this development is usually encountered in the second week of symptoms. If so, when was his last negative test for the virus? Was he knowingly infective during the debate? Major implications if so. Might explain the evasive nature of doctors press conferences.
Mr Crow: Trump had stated, earlier this year, that he gets tested " 2 to 3 times a week". He also mentioned that the nasal swabs procedure was invasive and uncomfortable. Since we know - via Stormy Daniels- that he does not always practice " safe sex", the possibility of him not undergoing regular testing certainly fits in with a cavalier, uncaring attitude regarding his own health and the health of others.
The withholding of medical information by Trump's doctors is a sad commentary on their ethics. Regarding HIPPA, doctors are allowed to overrule privacy concerns when the patient presents as a public health threat. That's the law here in the U.S.
Dr Conley and his staff should be investigated and receive some sort of punishment. Not likely though.

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1995 on: October 13, 2020, 01:01:28 AM »
John, from what we "know", Trump arrived late for the debate and too late to be tested. They relied on the honour system. This implies that they are using the quick antigen test and not the swab rtPCR test as that takes much longer to get a reasult. The antigen test gets a result in a few minutes but is not as reliable. It can have a false negatives at a relatively high rate but if done repeatedly can overcome this problem.

I imaging Donald simply has the antigen test daily and so do those around him. He kept himself "shrouded" as much as possible but given the infectious nature of the virus and the less than ideal contact behaviour of those in the WH it was probably just a matter of time before he was exposed. The key question here is did he have the virus and knowingly go ahead with the debate?

That would explain his reluctance to release the test results and medical records of symptoms.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1996 on: October 13, 2020, 02:29:32 AM »
John, from what we "know", Trump arrived late for the debate and too late to be tested. They relied on the honour system. This implies that they are using the quick antigen test and not the swab rtPCR test as that takes much longer to get a reasult. The antigen test gets a result in a few minutes but is not as reliable. It can have a false negatives at a relatively high rate but if done repeatedly can overcome this problem.

I imaging Donald simply has the antigen test daily and so do those around him. He kept himself "shrouded" as much as possible but given the infectious nature of the virus and the less than ideal contact behaviour of those in the WH it was probably just a matter of time before he was exposed. The key question here is did he have the virus and knowingly go ahead with the debate?

That would explain his reluctance to release the test results and medical records of symptoms.
Mr Crow: shades of Watergate, and the famous question: " what did the President know, and when did he know it?"

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1997 on: October 13, 2020, 04:08:43 AM »
Mr Crow: shades of Watergate, and the famous question: " what did the President know, and when did he know it?"

Follow the test results......wonder which doctor would break ranks? Dare I say "Deep Nostril"?
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« Reply #1998 on: October 13, 2020, 04:02:04 PM »
Just got contacted by a medico friend of mine who saw Trump's Florida "performance". He to.d me that he's still on the dexamethazone.....quite apparent from his "euphoric" state. Beware when he comes off it, likely a big downer.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1999 on: October 13, 2020, 05:10:35 PM »
Follow the test results......wonder which doctor would break ranks? Dare I say "Deep Nostril"?
Ha!
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1999 on: October 13, 2020, 05:10:35 PM »