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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2056 on: October 16, 2020, 10:44:34 AM »
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I am not even surprised you admit your wife uses dumb regurgitated cliches to help you seem clever on this board.

More often than not, cliches happen to be true. And my wife did not help me to seem clever, she helped me to understand the confused mind of a Trump supporter. You seem to not understand the difference.

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2057 on: October 16, 2020, 10:49:36 AM »
President Trump was laser focused tonight.  An outstanding performance.  In contrast to "Professor" Joe.  What a sad sight.  An old man squinting in obvious confusion and fear.  Not understanding where he was or what was happening.  Rambling and bizarre.  What a day for Trump.

 :D :D :D

Hilarious how you constantly embarrass yourself with your nonsense. Donald Trump looked like an absolute fool arguing with Savannah Guthrie and people in the audience. As usual, the pathological liar had no answers to anything.   

Town Hall YouTube Views Suggest Biden hit Trump Where It Hurts Him Most—Ratings

Biden 507,445 viewers
Trump 153,660 viewers

https://www.newsweek.com/youtube-views-suggest-biden-hit-trump-where-it-hurts-him-mostratings-1539635


Moderator Savannah Guthrie hailed for keeping Trump in check at town hall
Today show co-host pressed president on debts, coronavirus and QAnon without letting president dominate


Donald Trump’s floundering performance during Thursday’s NBC town hall left many feeling there was only one winner from the event – Trump’s interviewer, Savannah Guthrie.

Guthrie, a co-host of NBC’s Today morning show, repeatedly got the better of Trump as she pressed the president on his debts, his actions on coronavirus, and the dangerous rightwing conspiracy theory QAnon.

Trump was at times clearly uncomfortable, and his campaign attacked Guthrie less than an hour after the event finished, suggesting Guthrie had filled the role of “Joe Biden surrogate”.

The criticism from the Trump campaign only served to prove that this was a nightmare scenario for the president, who has restricted himself to rightwing media in recent weeks.

In Guthrie, Trump met someone who not only fact-checked him in real time, but at times pushed back on his usually unchallenged rhetoric.

The tone was set early, when Trump claimed that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had found that “85% of people who wear a mask catch [coronavirus]”.

Guthrie corrected the president, explaining that is not what the survey said – it found that of a group of 150 Covid-19 patients, 85% said they had worn a mask.

It was rare for Trump to be contradicted, given his “interviews” with Fox News frequently consist of him phoning in and talking at length, uninterrupted.

A standout moment came when Guthrie challenged Trump over QAnon, a baseless online conspiracy theory that the FBI believes is a potential domestic terror threat.

Asked by Guthrie if he would denounce the QAnon theory and “just say it’s crazy and not true”, Trump responded: “I don’t know about QAnon.”

Guthrie stuck to the topic and suggested to Trump that he did actually know about the conspiracy theory, which has been widely covered in the press and has found support among many of Trump’s backers.

“What I do hear about it, they are very strongly against pedophilia,” Trump said.

The exchange created one of the headlines of the night, as Trump seemingly offered a tacit defense of QAnon, whose adherents believe that a cabal of Satan-worshipping Democrats, Hollywood celebrities and billionaires runs the world while engaging in pedophilia.

Believers and promoters of QAnon are a regular presence in crowds at Trump rallies, and Trump and other Republicans have been reluctant to criticize the movement.

Just this week Trump shared a post from a QAnon Twitter account which claimed, baselessly, that Joe Biden had had a navy Seal team killed. Guthrie asked Trump why he had done so.

“That was a retweet! People can decide for themselves!” Trump said.

Guthrie responded: “I don’t get that. You’re the president, not someone’s crazy uncle.”

On Twitter, Trump’s niece, who wrote the book Too Much and Never Enough documenting her experiences with her uncle, appeared to suggest Guthrie could be mistaken.

After the event, Trump’s communications director issued a statement hailing Trump’s performance – an assessment that probably seemed surprising to many of those who watched the town hall.

“Even though the commission canceled the in-person debate that could have happened tonight, one occurred anyway, and President Trump soundly defeated NBC’s Savannah Guthrie in her role as debate opponent and Joe Biden surrogate,” Murtaugh said.

Murtagh added: “President Trump masterfully handled Guthrie’s attacks.”

Guthrie succeeded in challenging Trump on his finances – following a New York Times investigation that revealed Trump owns a $421m debt.

“Who do you owe $421m to?” Guthrie said.

Trump equivocated and claimed he owed “a very small amount of money” and was “underlevered”.

Guthrie asked: “Are you confirming that, yes, you do owe some $400m?”

“What I’m saying is that it’s a tiny percentage of my net worth,” Trump said.

“That sounds like yes,” Guthrie responded.

The sense that Trump was being subjected to real journalism recalled a contentious Fox News interview with Trump, and an Axios interview, but they came in July and August respectively.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/savannah-guthrie-trump-town-hall-moderator


Savannah Guthrie delivered the Trump interview we’ve been wanting for years
“I just told you”: Savannah Guthrie showed how to interrogate Trump


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/10/15/21518763/savannah-guthrie-trump-town-hall-nbc-miami

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2058 on: October 16, 2020, 10:51:11 AM »
President Trump was laser focused tonight.  An outstanding performance.  In contrast to "Professor" Joe.  What a sad sight.  An old man squinting in obvious confusion and fear.  Not understanding where he was or what was happening.  Rambling and bizarre.  What a day for Trump.

President Trump was laser focused tonight.

Yeah... admitting that he does owe foreign banks over 400 million dollars in loans that become due next year and letting it slip out that "it turns out I am indeed under audit" which means it came as a surprise to him that he was....

More importantly, when he took office we saw him signing all sorts of papers that would distance him from his businesses. Whatever happened to that? Is he now running his business from the White House?

He claimed the tax returns were false, but at the same time admits that he owes the money and only paid $750 in taxes, just like the tax returns say.....

Yeah he was laser focused...  :D



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2059 on: October 16, 2020, 10:53:47 AM »

Impressive.......and to think the creators used to be Republicans.

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2060 on: October 16, 2020, 10:55:55 AM »
It's like 2016 all over again.  The dems are in panic mode.  Nothing to see with those Hillary emails.  Nothing to see when the moderator of the presidential debate asks a Trump hater for advice, then lies and claims he was hacked.  Any honest person with an ounce of decency would denounce him regardless of political bias.  He should never work again.  His credibility is shot forever.  And can't wait for that Hunter sex tape.  Old Joe must be a proud dad today.

Nice propaganda  :D :D :D

Nobody cares about bogus emails or Hunter. They want Trump defeated. Another day gone, no new voters, and more bad polls for Donald Trump. 


Biden Takes Double-Digit Lead Over Trump

A new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump among likely voters, 54% to 43%.

“It’s the highest level of support Biden has achieved since the poll began testing the head-to-head matchup in February. Biden has never been below 50% in the question in the Marist poll, and Trump has never been above 44%.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/10/15/biden-takes-double-digit-lead-over-trump/


ARIZONA: Biden 50%, Trump 44%
NORTH CAROLINA: Biden 51%, Trump 46%

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2061 on: October 16, 2020, 10:58:48 AM »
Another 'journalist' lost their reputation in the battle to take Trump down.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/15/media/steve-scully-cspan-suspended/index.html
 
And there you have it. USA's political system is a joke. A tool to make sure Biden is elected. You have no journalism left there. You are getting everything you deserve.

Like 222,217 dead Americans. 8 million infected with #COVID_19, 51 million lost jobs, a destroyed economy, and no longer being a leading nation to the world? Yeah that's what we have with Donald Trump and the overwhelming majority of Americans want this p.o.s. gone.     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2062 on: October 16, 2020, 11:02:01 AM »
Scaramucci is butthurt because Trump smashed his multi-million deal in China or something? that is supposed to show Trump in a bad light?

You are actually promoting the 3rd-world corruption you accuse Trump off. Lame brain

Trump is tens of millions of dollars in debt to China. Wake up


Donald Trump’s Debt to China

The debt stems from a $950 million refinancing deal in 2012, to which the Bank of China chipped in $211 million,” the Politico article said. “Vornado’s federal financial disclosures show it and the other owner of 1290 Avenue of the Americas—Trump—are still indebted from the 2012 deal.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-debt-to-china

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2063 on: October 16, 2020, 11:09:34 AM »
President Trump was laser focused tonight.  An outstanding performance.  In contrast to "Professor" Joe.  What a sad sight.  An old man squinting in obvious confusion and fear.  Not understanding where he was or what was happening.  Rambling and bizarre.  What a day for Trump.

Yeah what a day. Another disaster with a meltdown at his hate rally and a joke of a town hall. :D :D :D

Funny how Donald Trump didn't mention this and the right wing media didn't report this. When Biden wins in a massive landslide in a couple of weeks he can turn the economy around and start creating new jobs again like he did for 8 years with Obama.

Jobless claims: Another 898,000 Americans filed new unemployment claims last week

U.S. states saw another 898,000 Americans file first-time unemployment insurance claims last week, representing an unexpected rise in new claims with the pandemic still under way and another round of fiscal stimulus still out of reach.

Initial jobless claims, week ended Oct. 10: 898,000 vs. 825,000 expected and 845,000 during the prior week

Continuing jobless claims, week ended Oct. 3: 10.018 million vs. 10.550 million expected and 11.183 million during the prior week

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jobless-claims-coronavirus-unemployment-week-ended-october-10-2020-183353138.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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