A Partial List of Coincidences and Errors Encouraging Tinfoil Hat CTs

[Thomas Graves]

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The fact that the timing of Vicki Adams' and Sandra Styles' walking down the wooden stairs from the fourth floor to the first floor was such that they neither of them heard nor saw Oswald descending the same stairs from the sixth to the second.

--  MWT 

[Paul May]

Several of your "the fact that" statements are simply wrong. But, beyond the factual errors in your list, I find your posturing curious. You declare that people who believe Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy are tinfoil hatters. This is an interesting posture to assume given that you are in the decided minority of Americans who believe the lone-gunman theory. According to the most recent polling data we have on the subject, about 62% of Americans believe JFK was killed by a conspiracy, while about 34% do not, with about 4% undecided.

Furthermore, the last government investigation into the assassination, the House Select Committee on Assassinations, concluded that Kennedy was probably killed by a conspiracy, that there were four shots fired, that Jack Ruby had significant Mafia ties, that Ruby lied about his reason for shooting Oswald, that Ruby's shooting of Oswald resembled a Mafia hit to silence a witness or conspirator, that the WC ignored the clear weight of the evidence regarding how Ruby entered the DPD basement to shoot Oswald, that someone helped Ruby get into the DPD basement, that the DPD left doors unlocked along Ruby's route into the basement, that the DPD removed security from the area of the garage nearest the stairway that Ruby used to enter the basement shortly before Ruby entered the basement via that stairway, that someone was moving boxes in the sixth-floor window within 2 minutes after the shooting (obviously, it could not have been Oswald), that Silvia Odio's account of meeting with Oswald in company with two anti-Castro Cubans at a time when Oswald was supposedly in Mexico City is credible, that the committee established that Odio told several people about the Oswald visit before the assassination, etc., etc.

Finally, here is a very partial list of the "tinfoil hatted" public figures and experts who are on record as believing Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy:

* Dr. Joseph Dolce, an Army wound ballistics expert who played a leading role in the WC's wound ballistics tests.

* The late Senator Richard Schweiker.

* Senator Christopher Dodd, who served on the HSCA when he was a member of the House of Representatives.

* The late Senator Richard Russell, who served on the WC.

* Dr. Roger McCarthy, a ballistics expert with Failure Analysis, which assisted with the American Bar Association's mock Oswald trials in the 1990s.

* Robert MacNeil, formerly of the McNeil-Lehrer News Hour on PBS.

* Ambassador William Atwood, former Special Assistant to the U.S. delegation to the United Nations.

* President Lyndon Johnson. (We now know from the Johnson White House tapes that Johnson rejected the single-bullet theory. We also know from former Johnson aides and associates that privately Johnson said he believed Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy.)

* The late Dr. Milton Helpern, a renowned forensic pathologist and formerly the medical examiner for New York City.

* The late Dr. John Nichols, a forensic pathologist and formerly a professor of pathology at the University of Kansas.

* The late Carlos Hathcock, a Marine sniper who was widely regarded as the greatest sniper of the 20th century.

* The late Evelyn Lincoln, who was Kennedy's White House secretary.

* The late Dr. George Burkley, Kennedy's personal physician.

* Former Vice President Al Gore.

* Former Senator and Secretary of State John Kerry.

* Kennedy aides Dave Powers and Ken O'Donnell.

If anyone is wearing tinfoil hats, it is lone-gunman theorists.

Remarkable. 57 years after the event, one is still using polling as relevant. The median age in America today is 37 years old. For 99% of Americans JFK is known in history books. Their knowledge of the event itself is non existent. You of course know this yet you post this crap losing all credibility while doing so. Tinfoil indeed.

[Martin Weidmann]

Nutty is as nutty does. For instance, I don't claim anything outlandish.

And I didn't see any reference to Ruby on the MTG list.

I don't claim anything outlandish.

That's an outlandish claim if ever I saw one

[Thomas Graves]

Remarkable. 57 years after the event, one is still using polling as relevant. The median age in America today is 37 years old. For 99% of Americans JFK is known in history books. Their knowledge of the event itself is non existent. You of course know this yet you post this crap losing all credibility while doing so. Tinfoil indeed.

Paul,

Which means they would have been born around 1983 and within a few years would have seen Oliver "I Admire Vladimir Putin and My Son Works for RT" Stone's abominable movie JFK, which itself was a metastasticized, fanciful elaboration of Jim Garrison's "Paese Sera, Pravda and Ramparts Say Clay Shaw Was a CIA OFFICER, And His International Trade Mart Was A CIA Front!" virtual screenplay, ... and those youngsters could thereby have become brainwashed by the KGB at a very early age, indeed.

--  MWT 

[Bill Chapman]

I don't claim anything outlandish.

That's an outlandish claim if ever I saw one

Yet you fail to identify any.

[Martin Weidmann]

Yet you fail to identify any.

Huh? I just did

[Thomas Graves]

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Edit:

And here's another one (if I haven't mentioned it already):

The fact that Dealy Plaza was a virtual concrete-and-brick echo chamber, thereby confusing many witnesses not only as to how many shots were fired, but the length of the intervals between shots, as well.

-- MWT 
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The fact that the timing of Vicki Adams' and Sandra Styles' walking down the wooden stairs from the fourth floor to the first floor was such that they neither of them heard nor saw Oswald descending the same stairs from the sixth to the second.

--  MWT 

[Bill Chapman]

Huh? I just did

Can't wait for your list.