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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2020, 08:32:11 PM »
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Who me?
I've never really thought about it  :D

I agree. You haven't.

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2020, 08:33:19 PM »
The reality is that Oswald remains prime suspect to this day.

Based on what?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2020, 08:51:12 PM »
Based on what?

Nobody else on base
They've all struck out

Feel free to send in a pinch-hitter
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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2020, 09:06:22 PM »
Nobody else on base
They've all struck out

Feel free to send in a pinch-hitter

LOL.  Back to the usual Chapman contentless wasting of time.

He's the "prime suspect", just because.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2020, 09:31:08 PM »
LOL.  Back to the usual Chapman contentless wasting of time.

He's the "prime suspect", just because.

No pinch hitter, huh
You lot keep striking out

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #77 on: August 04, 2020, 10:22:59 PM »

Bill posted another contradiction in Brewer's statements.
He still must have not read the interview!
Wake up Bill!
See what Brewer says in that interview--- that he didn't recall that the broadcast said anything about a policeman.
There you have it. Changing his story-- [an obviously guilty conscience perhaps?]
Brewer himself denied there any reason to suspect anyone of anything.
Watch the Oswald did it-bots profess that Brewer must have had a divine revelation [even though he doesn't seem to say so himself]

Online David Von Pein

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #78 on: August 04, 2020, 11:28:55 PM »
What I think is that there is no evidence that there was a radio broadcast of Tippit's shooting that early, so it seems that the reason he gave was fabricated after the fact.

Nonsense. Brewer didn't "fabricate" anything.

I think Brewer was probably listening to KBOX Radio on 11/22/63. And Dale Myers seems to think so too....

http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2015/12/kbox-radio.html

"KBOX Radio might have been the station that Johnny Brewer had turned on that day, because within the first minute of the KBOX coverage [linked above] (which equates to about 1:35 PM CST), there's a bulletin which states: "We also have one Dallas detective reported dead on arrival at Parkland Hospital." (If that report was referring to Officer Tippit, then there are two errors in it, because Tippit was taken to Methodist Hospital, not Parkland, and Tippit, of course, was not a "detective". But later radio reports did also make the mistake of calling the slain policeman "Detective Tippit". So that KBOX bulletin probably is referring to Officer Tippit's death. And if that's the case, then Johnny Brewer could have heard about the Tippit shooting prior to seeing Oswald come into the lobby area of his shoe store. And it's also possible that KBOX could have provided a bulletin about the policeman's shooting even earlier than 1:35, but I have no way to confirm whether they did or not, because the version of the KBOX material in my collection begins at about 1:35 PM.)

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"I'm certainly willing to accept the possibility that Johnny Brewer might have gotten mixed up concerning the precise time when he first heard the news about a police officer being shot in Oak Cliff. Perhaps he did hear that news a little later in the day. But also keep in mind the 1:35 PM KBOX report about the DOA "detective" (which is a remarkably speedy bulletin, because KBOX not only was reporting on the wounding of a police officer, they were already reporting on the death of that policeman as early as 1:35), which tends to indicate that at least one Dallas-area radio station was reporting the officer's shooting at a time which would be perfectly consistent with Johnny Brewer's account of only seeing Oswald after hearing about the policeman's shooting on the radio.

"The KBOX audio footage I provided does not, however, give the necessary detail about the shooting taking place in Oak Cliff, but, as I mentioned earlier, it's possible that such an "Oak Cliff" detail was mentioned in an earlier KBOX bulletin, which preceded the point in time when my truncated copy of the coverage begins.

"In any event, even if Brewer didn't hear any pre-1:36 PM radio bulletin concerning the Tippit shooting, it's still quite clear to me from the weight of John Brewer's testimony and statements over the years that Brewer was suspicious of Lee Harvey Oswald's behavior and actions shortly after 1:30 PM on 11/22/63 (such as: Oswald turning his back to the street just as the police cars went roaring by).

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"BTW / FYI .... Here is a CBS-TV interview with Johnny Brewer from 1964. In this interview, Brewer says this: "Just a few minutes before he [Oswald] walked into the lobby, on the radio they had a bulletin that an officer had been shot here in Oak Cliff." "
-- DVP; April 18, 2019

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From Dale Myers....

"My work on this issue was quite exhaustive and appears as endnote No. 617 (pages 738-739 of the 2013 Edition of “With Malice”). ....
A 1:59 p.m. KBOX report from newsman Sam Pate repeats information known to have been previously broadcast, including a report about the Tippit shooting (“Moments ago a police officer reported to have been shot down at Tenth and Patton in the Oak Cliff area. Several squads of police, approximately twenty men, ordered to the Oak Cliff area. A late word shows that the police officer was dead on arrival at Methodist Hospital.”). This KBOX report on the Tippit shooting was probably broadcast earlier on KBOX shortly after 1:31 p.m. when it was reported over the Dallas police radio that Tippit was DOA at Methodist Hospital."
-- Dale K. Myers; E-Mail To DVP On April 19, 2019

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1317.html
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #79 on: August 05, 2020, 12:39:23 AM »
 
  Brewer didn't "fabricate" anything.
What he didn't fabricate you guys do.
What about the post above?
.. that he didn't recall that the broadcast said anything about a policeman.
What about the question to Brewer...
"...Can you remember when you heard about the Tippit killing-the shooting of the policeman?"
Answer..."I've never really thought about it".
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"We also have one Dallas detective reported dead on arrival at Parkland Hospital." (If that report was referring to Officer Tippit)
IF..if..We know it wasn't. Quit reaching.
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In any event, it's quite clear that at least one of the radio stations in the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area had provided, prior to approximately 1:36 PM (Dallas time), a bulletin concerning the shooting of a police officer in Oak Cliff. We know that whatever radio station Johnny Calvin Brewer was listening to on 11/22/63 most definitely did broadcast such a bulletin (most likely somewhere between 1:30 PM and 1:35 PM).
Evidence imagined is evidence proven? Where is that "clear" bulletin? I have failed to hear it.

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #79 on: August 05, 2020, 12:39:23 AM »