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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #128 on: August 13, 2020, 07:55:21 PM »
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Why do you keep making this assertion?  KBOX was recording during the motorcade.  The tapes went "missing".

Or was never recorded. Yes, during important events, like the motorcade, they made recordings. And stopped recording when they thought the main public event was over. WFAA did exactly the same.

Any why would these tapes go missing? Were KBOX and WFAA transmitting coded messages to the shooters?



Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

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It is speculation for me to say that Mr. Brewer could have heard an early (with errors) broadcast about the death of a police officer. Like from listening to KBOX at 1:36. But it is not speculation to state that it was impossible for Mr. Brewer to have heard such a broadcast.

Why?

Why aren’t both claims considered “speculation”? And Martin’s claim an unreasonable speculation because we do have a recording of such a broadcast at 1:36, which could form the basis of Mr. Brewer’s memory of events two weeks later.

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #129 on: August 13, 2020, 07:59:12 PM »

The most likely scenario of what happened is that Brewer heard the report on the radio that Kennedy was dead and that morphed later into that he heard a report on the radio about Tippit being DOA.

Have fun twisting and turning some more .....

Why is that the most likely scenario? Why couldn't Mr. Brewer hear the KBOX broadcast at 1:36 about the death of a Dallas police officer, and that form the basis of him memory, two weeks later, that he heard about the killing of a Dallas police officer before Oswald showed up?

Online John Iacoletti

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #130 on: August 13, 2020, 08:11:43 PM »
Or was never recorded. Yes, during important events, like the motorcade, they made recordings. And stopped recording when they thought the main public event was over. WFAA did exactly the same.

You're leaping to the conclusion that they weren't recording just because you can't find the recordings on Youtube?

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Any why would these tapes go missing?

Because the government "loses" things.

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It is speculation for me to say that Mr. Brewer could have heard an early (with errors) broadcast about the death of a police officer.

Yes.

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Like from listening to KBOX at 1:36. But it is not speculation to state that it was impossible for Mr. Brewer to have heard such a broadcast.

It's not "impossible".  There's just no evidence of such a broadcast. 

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Why aren’t both claims considered “speculation”? And Martin’s claim an unreasonable speculation because we do have a recording of such a broadcast at 1:36, which could form the basis of Mr. Brewer’s memory of events two weeks later.

a) we don't have a broadcast at any time of a patrolman having been shot in Oak Cliff, which is what Brewer claimed.

b) the broadcast you are referring would have been too late anyway.
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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #131 on: August 15, 2020, 12:36:06 AM »
Mr Elliott:
Brewer's story does not make sense.
He knew nothing regarding Tippit's murder.

Moving on, in later years he expanded his story, saying he knew Oswald, haviing earlier sold him shoes. Curious.

On a side note, Tippit was mentioned as a previous employee of the Texas Theater, according to Julia Postal.
Small world.

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #132 on: September 15, 2020, 02:43:05 PM »
Mr Elliott:
Brewer's story does not make sense.
He knew nothing regarding Tippit's murder.

Moving on, in later years he expanded his story, saying he knew Oswald, haviing earlier sold him shoes. Curious.

On a side note, Tippit was mentioned as a previous employee of the Texas Theater, according to Julia Postal.
Small world.

Do you have a source on Brewer saying Oswald bought shoes off him?

Regarding Tippit working at the Texas Theatre, Mrs Tippit said in an interview that this claim was false.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #133 on: September 15, 2020, 03:11:02 PM »
Why is that the most likely scenario? Why couldn't Mr. Brewer hear the KBOX broadcast at 1:36 about the death of a Dallas police officer, and that form the basis of him memory, two weeks later, that he heard about the killing of a Dallas police officer before Oswald showed up?
Because there was no such broadcast. Catch up.
At 1:36 the announcement of Kennedy's death was being made.

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #134 on: September 16, 2020, 12:13:30 AM »
Because there was no such broadcast. Catch up.
At 1:36 the announcement of Kennedy's death was being made.

Brewer might have an illegal police radio. And heard the broadcast on that. Things can get boring in a shoe store.

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #135 on: September 16, 2020, 12:20:11 AM »
Brewer might have an illegal police radio. And heard the broadcast on that. Things can get boring in a shoe store.

In past years, I had also speculated about the idea that Brewer might have been listening to a police scanner on November 22nd in his shoe store. But after checking Brewer's Warren Commission testimony, I learned that the "police scanner" idea could not be accurate, because Brewer told the Commission this: "We were listening to a transistor radio there in the store, just listening to a regular radio program."

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1317.html

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Re: My Re-Evaluation of Johnny Brewer’s Initial Report of December 6, 1963
« Reply #135 on: September 16, 2020, 12:20:11 AM »