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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: 20 Key Facts About the JFK Assassination in 8 Minutes
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2020, 01:48:01 AM »
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Re: 20 Key Facts About the JFK Assassination in 8 Minutes
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Offline Michael Carney

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Re: 20 Key Facts About the JFK Assassination in 8 Minutes
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2020, 04:13:24 AM »
“No one denies that the HSCA acoustical experts determined that the DPD dictabelt contains four gunshot impulses and that one of the shots came from the grassy knoll.”

So this blows the theory out of the water about a lone gunman, meaning it was a conspiracy, no argument there.

“In 2020 everyone denies what you state as fact above. This “evidence” was long ago discarded. You know this FACT yet you continue pushing it.”

The Secret Service did destroy their records just when they were asked to produce them.

“At least three dozen DP witnesses said they thought shots came from the grassy knoll. How could you not know this? This is a fact. You might not like it, but it is a fact.”

Griffith stated exactly that, why do you say he said differently. You sound like the fake news folks. His words were: “At least three dozen DP witnesses said they thought shots came from the grassy knoll. How could you not know this? This is a fact. You might not like it, but it is a fact.”

“Unconcerned with what witnesses “thought” they heard. No ballistic evidence for ANY shots from the grassy knoll. More CT fantasy.”

So three dozen witnesses are not enough to convince you that a shot was fired from the grassy knoll? Wow, I am thinking a jury might think there was a shot fired from there. Plus the fact that the shot to the throat came from the front, a nurse noted that the throat wound was an entry wound. Afterwards it was destroyed with a tracheostomy.

“The Secret Service did in fact refuse to allow the Dallas medical examiner to perform an autopsy. How can you not know this?”

Griffith’s words: The Secret Service did in fact refuse to allow the Dallas medical examiner to perform an autopsy. How can you not know this? You did it again, misrepresented what he said.

“Oswald was not a skilled marksman according to his Marine rifle records and according to virtually everyone who saw him fire a rifle.
 
Once again you attempt to deceive. Oswald qualified as Marine Corps sharpshooter. The Kennedy shooting itself was not a terribly difficult act. Your continued reliance on witnesses is absurd and does little to bolster your weak arguments.”

Oswald barely qualified as a sharpshooter which is the middle of the scale. Expert is above sharpshooter and marksman is below sharpshooter.

“The Kennedy shooting itself was not a terribly difficult act.”

Oh contraire, it was a very difficult act. When they assembled a bunch of shooters in a setting similar to DP, same elevation and same distances only one person was able to do the feat and that was Howard Donohue, ballistics expert.

“I can go on and on but what’s the point?”

Please do, I find this fun. I don’t get your deception and dishonesty, what gives?

Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: 20 Key Facts About the JFK Assassination in 8 Minutes
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2020, 03:39:04 AM »
It is curious that Mr. Griffith, who believes the Zapruder film was altered, to hide the evidence for multiple shooters, also believes that the Zapruder film shows the six shots that were fired. This would seem to be a fairly bad attempt to alter the film. I’m surprised he doesn’t claim the Zapruder film shows 8 shots, the 6 reals shots, some of which they tried to eliminate but failed, plus two extra ones they inadvertently added.

The only thing that is curious is that you continue to make comments on a public board that show that you don't know what you're talking about, that show that your reading has been very one sided and incomplete.

As has been explained many, many times in articles and books on this issue, the people who altered the film had a limited amount of time to do their work and were unable to edit or remove every problematic element in the film due to the technology they had available. The altered film was not nearly as revealing as the original, but it still contained an unacceptable number of problematic elements. That is why the film was suppressed for so many years.

Furthermore, since you believe the film is unaltered, you should be doubly focused on explaining the elements in the film that destroy the lone-gunman theory, such as the fact that the film shows reactions to six shots, the fact that one of the obvious sets of shot reactions indicates a shot was fired at around Z190 when your lone-gunman's view of the limo would have been blocked by the oak tree, the fact that Kennedy clearly begins to react to the first non-fatal hit at Z200 (almost certainly the ricochet hit), the fact that Kennedy clearly begins to react to the second non-fatal hit at Z226 when he is suddenly jolted forward and his hands and elbows are flung forward, the fact that Connally's right shoulder is not knocked downward and forward until Z236 (Connally recalled that the impact felt like he had been punched very hard in the back).
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: 20 Key Facts About the JFK Assassination in 8 Minutes
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2020, 05:25:39 AM »

11. In 2017, documentation was discovered that revealed that an extra bullet was found in JFK’s limousine by two Navy petty officers on the night of the assassination. The petty officer who found the bullet confirmed the account, and Dr. James Young, a Navy doctor who attended the autopsy, has confirmed that he received the bullet from the petty officer. The bullet disappeared after it was given to one of the autopsy doctors.


Hi Michael,

I would be interested in that documentation. Where can I find it?

Offline Michael Carney

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Re: 20 Key Facts About the JFK Assassination in 8 Minutes
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2020, 05:01:36 PM »
Where would one find an unaltered version of the Z film? Or is that not possible?

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Re: 20 Key Facts About the JFK Assassination in 8 Minutes
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2020, 05:01:36 PM »