Yes. It turned out Steve Barber was correct. Which is the bottom line. Not the degrees he has versus the degrees held by the acoustic experts and Dr. Thomas. It is who is correct.
The is no explanation as to why these ‘superior’ acoustic experts did not discover this crosstalk before Steve Barber did. They had access to superior quality recordings than Steve did, but it was Steve who discovered it.
They were focused on the gunshot impulses and the N-waves on the dictabelt, and on comparing them with the gunshot impulses and N-waves from the Dealey Plaza test firings. You still can’t seem to understand the basic point that the crosstalk really means nothing, given the dictabelt’s features and the way it was recorded. Again, supersonic N-waves do not just magically appear on an audio recording unless the recording contains gunfire.
The ‘two channels were offset by a minute’ explanation by Dr. Thomas makes no sense to me. If it was true, we should hear phrases like “Hold everything secure” and then a minute later, the same phrase repeated again. Why does this never happen if the two channels can be offset by a minute? If there is such an offset, and crosstalk occurs, wouldn’t we be hearing the same phrase repeated twice?
Since Dr. Thomas’s explanation of the crosstalk seems to be too technical for you to grasp, let’s try posing these questions, which might help you understand Dr. Thomas’s explanation:
* How did the N-waves get on the dictabelt, if the dictabelt did not record gunfire?
* How could it be that an N-wave appears in each dictabelt gunshot impulse for which the police microphone was in an appropriate position to detect it, including the recorded sound of the grassy knoll shot?
* How could it be that the sound fingerprints on the dictabelt match some of the sound fingerprints from the Dealey Plaza test firings, if the dictabelt did not record gunfire in Dealey Plaza?
* How could it be that the sound-distance data of the identified gunshot impulses on the dictabelt match the sound-distance data of some of the gunshot impulses from the Dealey Plaza test firings, if the dictabelt did not record gunfire in the plaza?
* How could it be that even the windshield distortions are present on the shots when they should be, and absent on the others when they should be, when compared to the Dealey Plaza test firings? Can you fathom the odds that such specific correlations are all just a coincidence?
Yes. The original acoustic experts, who may simply be too embarrassed to admit error, still say they stand behind there work.
Or maybe they still stand by their work because the NRC panel failed to explain the evidence relating to the N-waves, the sound fingerprint correlations, and the sound-distance correlations. Maybe they stand by their work because the NRC panel, not having a single acoustics expert, committed numerous blunders and used specious criteria to discount the gunshot impulses. Maybe they stand by their work because the cold, hard scientific evidence shows that the dictabelt contains at least four gunshot impulses that were recorded in Dealey Plaza during the assassination.
But where are the other acoustic experts, not insect experts, who rally to their defense and say, yes, they were right and they are still right?
Let’s ask a different question: Has a single acoustics expert disputed the BBN and WA acoustical analysis? The answer to that would be NO. Could that be because BBN (now a part of Raytheon) is an internationally recognized acoustics authority with top-notch acoustical scientists? Could that be because Weiss and Aschkenasy were recognized as two of the leading acoustical experts in the world, which is why they were asked to evaluate the BBN findings?
This “trail”, if it is a trail, should show up in both the frontal and the side X-Ray. In the side X-Ray as a long line of fragments. And in the frontal X-Ray as a short line of fragments. But we don’t see that in the frontal X-Ray. Which leaves me to believe that there was to linear arrangement of the fragments in 3-D space. It’s just that the fragments were blasted, or moved by blood, upward from their original position, so there is no linear arrangement of them in 3-D space.
You really should just stop with this nonsense and concede the point. Here we have another case where, obviously, I can’t force you to admit an obvious, universally acknowledged fact.
Every single radiologist, forensic pathologist, and medical doctor who has examined the autopsy skull x-rays has noted the high fragment trail on the lateral x-rays, including everyone from Dr. Lattimer to Dr. Fitzpatrick, the ARRB’s forensic radiologist. If you want to continue to embarrass yourself by standing by Sturdivan’s horrible x-ray reading, no one can stop you from doing so, but in so doing, you will make it clear that you are not credible.
And I notice that you have, once again, ignored the fact that the autopsy doctors described a low fragment trail, that the autopsy doctors said nothing about a fragment trail near the top of the head, and that the low fragment trail described in the autopsy report is nowhere to be seen on the extant x-rays. Let’s be honest: You keep ducking these facts because you have no rational, believable explanation for them. Sturdivan ducks them as well, probably for the same reason.
The goat film is the best evidence we have. We don’t have 10 films of goats being shot in the head and 10 films of humans being shot in the head. If we had, and it was discovered that goats always start moving 40 milliseconds after the bullet strikes and humans 200 milliseconds after the bullet strikes, then I would say that it appears, for some strange reason, humans react 5 times more slowly than goats. I don’t know why this would be. . . .
You don’t know why this would be?! Really? Uh, well, maybe because goats and humans have very different neuro anatomy, because the necks of goats and humans are constructed differently, and because goats are much smaller than humans. Again, if you want to keep embarrassing yourself rather than admit an obvious point, no one can stop you from doing so.
This but the evidence shows this to be true. I would then conclude that the backward movement could not be caused by the neuromuscular reaction.
But we don’t have this. We can’t run this experiment on humans. If we had such a film, we could not show it. The JFK assassination, for some strange reason, is the lone exception. So, we have to do the best we can. We are allowed to shoot goats in the head and show film of this, so this is the best way, available to us today, to determine in a neuromuscular reaction could start in one Zapruder frame. So, unless human values change drastically for the worst, the goat film, or films of other animals being shot in the head, is the best experiment we will be allowed to run. And our conclusions of how fast a neuromuscular reaction can occur has to be based on these experiments.
You just can’t help yourself, can you? I have already given you the facts about the known speeds of human neuromuscular reactions in my thread on the jet-effect and neuro-spasm theories. The reaction time required for a human head and torso to be propelled violently backward is not going to be the same as the reaction time required for two human fingers to grab an object, because obviously a lot more weight, bones, and muscles are involved to move a head and torso.
And I notice that you have, once again, simply ducked the fact that JFK’s reaction is nothing like the goat’s reaction, as many scholars have pointed out, and as I have personally pointed out to you several times.
This Dr. Joseph Dolce was a ballistic expert? He was a medical doctor. A consultant with Edgewood Arsenal. So, he did consult with ballistic experts, but was not one himself. He did not study the what could happen to bullets when they struck humans. He studied what would happen to humans.
This lie again? To repeat what I’ve told you three times now, Dr. Dolce was the chief of the Army’s Wound Ballistics Board. When the Warren Commission (WC) asked the Army to provide their top wound ballistics expert, the Army selected Dr. Dolce. Maybe the Army just didn't know what a wound ballistics expert was, hey?
Before becoming the chief of the Army’s Wound Ballistics Board, Dr. Dolce was a battlefield surgeon in the Pacific, for three years, so, needless to say, he dealt with hundreds of gunshot cases. Dr. Dolce's experience and expertise were so highly regarded that if a VIP or member of Congress were injured, Dr. Dolce was asked to review the case.
He objected to the Single Bullet Theory because he did not think that CE 399 would cause the wounds to JFK and Connally and still end up only moderately deformed. He should have stuck to his field of expertise, on the expected effects on humans and not the expected effects on bullets.
No, but you should stop lying and stick to your field of expertise, whatever that might be. You never even bothered to watch Dolce’s segment in the
Reasonable Doubt documentary, did you? If you had gathered up the courage to watch that segment, you would have learned that Dr. Dolce said he based his rejection of the SBT on the WC’s own wound ballistics tests, which he supervised.
Plus, I don’t know if he gave an opinion on the X-Ray of the “fragment trail” in the side X-Ray.
He was never asked about this issue. However, since he was a surgeon before he became a wound ballistics expert, he would have had some training and experience in reading x-rays, so he would have been qualified to render a credible opinion on the matter. (By the early 1900s, doctors routinely used x-rays as a diagnostic tool.)
So, try again. Give me the name of a valid ballistic expert who disagrees with Larry Sturdivan.
I already gave you the names of two ballistics experts who disagree with Larry Sturdivan: Dr. Dolce and Dr. Roger McCarthy. Plus, I reject your silly attempt to limit the experts to ballistics experts. You don’t want to expand the fields of expertise into forensics and radiology. We both know why.
I’ll try again to get you to tell me the name of a ballistics expert or forensic pathologist who has ever heard of an FMJ bullet striking a skull and exploding into dozens of fragments, leaving two fragments on the rear outer table of the skull below the entry point, and still ejecting its nose and tail from the skull.
Ballistic tests with ballistic gel show that bullets, while fragmenting, the veer, in an unpredictable direction, while traveling through ballistic gel. This is not a nutty theory, this is not a theory he is forced to resort to, but a well-established fact, maybe not known to medical doctors, even those heavily involved with forensics, but is well known to true ballistic experts who make these observations.
So you are doubling down on this stupid theory. Wow. Just wow.
Yes, it is a nutty theory because neither brain tissue nor ballistics gel can cause a bullet to veer to the drastic degree that Sturdivan theorizes. Sturdivan knows he cannot cite a single ballistics test where a bullet fired into gelatin veered so drastically horizontally and then veered upward in the space of 3-5 inches of gel. That is total hogwash. It is nutty nonsense. Bullets do veer in soft tissue and in ballistics gel, but not to that degree, not even close, and Sturdivan surely knows it.
Sturdivan also knows, or should know, that none of the bullets fired into the gelatin-filled skulls in the WC’s ballistics tests veered so drastically. Not one of them performed this magical feat. None of them did so because bullets do not veer that markedly in brain tissue or in ballistics gel or in any other soft-tissue-like substance.
You should contact some ballistics experts and ask them if they have ever seen a bullet veer so drastically in the space of 3-5 inches while transiting a gelatin block. In fact, when you ask them about this, show them Sturdivan’s diagram to ensure they understand just how sharp of a turn and an upward veer we’re talking about.
Here, again, I can’t compel you to abandon another ridiculous theory. No one can stop you from continuing to claim that a bullet entering a skull just above the EOP at a 15-degree downward angle could suddenly make a sharp right turn in brain tissue and then veer upward, all in the space of a few inches, and could even do this while supposedly exploding into dozens of fragments and somehow depositing fragments near the top of the head, several inches above the EOP. I find it hard to believe that deep down you really believe such a ludicrous theory. But, if you do, this is another indication that you are not to be taken seriously.