Dan, the diagram map that was posted by Andrew Mason shows a red LOS line going thru the tree at Z195😳
Hi Zeon,
so you can see the images that Andrew is posting?
It's annoying I can't see them
If there are ONLY 3 shots and the 1st shot is a hit at 195 as theorized, and hits ONLY JFK then the 2nd shot that hits Connaly defacto must be at approx z223-225 as it’s quite apparent that Connalys right shoulder is being abruptly rotated counterclockwise.
I’m dubious of 2 separate shots fired unless someone has some evidence of an suppressed shot fired which of course means 2 shooters at least.
I'm satisfied that the evidence and arguments I've presented in this thread demonstrate the first shot was at z223 and that it passed through both men.
And the tree is an obstacle that the SE window shooter is very likely aware of so even if it can be proved that the leaves were less dense in 63 , it’s stiil questionable to choose to take a shot between z186-z210 when the tree branches are an obstruction rather than taking a shot just prior to it just afterwards when there is a clear LOS.
I believe the shooter was well aware of the tree. Ronald Fischer makes an interesting point about the man he saw in the Sniper's Nest:
"The man held my attention for 10 or 15 seconds, because he appeared uncomfortable for one, and, secondly, he wasn't watching-uh---he didn't look like he was watching for the parade. He looked like he was looking down toward the Trinity River and the triple underpass down at the end-toward the end of Elm Street. And--uh--all the time I watched him, he never moved his head, he never-he never moved anything. Just was there transfixed."I get the impression the shooter may have been visualising the shots. It appears the shooter knew in advance when the shots would be taken, it wasn't a last minute decision. The notion of him firing through the tree is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned, he would have visualised the limo coming out from under the tree before the first shot was fired.
The trajectory for the single shot hitting both JFK and Connolly does NOT have to be a perfect straight line.
There is possibility of slight deflections possible for a bullet going thru 2human bodies.
I was hoping Andrew's images were going to show the position of the limo at z223 and the kind of angle the limo was travelling relative to the Sniper's Nest. The best image I can find is this from the FBI reenactment:
Ignoring the positions of the men in the limo, the bottom left photo shows that the limo was moving away at a very shallow angle relative to the SN (if that makes sense). Trying to visualise the actual position of the men in the limo, I find it very difficult to believe a bullet passing through JFK would not hit JBC directly in the back.
Most people believe the bullet that passed through JFK didn't strike any bone but the fact is it fractured one of his vertebrae. However, I don't believe this would have caused any meaningful diversion of the bullet's trajectory. I imagine the bullet would have been noticeably deflected passing through JBC.
The only problem really is the apparent anomaly of the insignificant amount of deformation of CE 399.
CE399 has nothing to do with it. The bullet was first noticed by Darrell Tomlinson, an engineer at Parkland, who alerted O P Wright. Wright was the first to pick the bullet up and he gave it to Secret Service agent Richard Johnsen. This is from
http://22november1963.org.uk/ce-399-magic-bullet-planted-or-genuine"A private researcher, Josiah Thompson, tracked down Wright in November 1966 and asked him about the bullet. In the presence of two witnesses, Wright replied that the bullet he had seen possessed a pointed tip rather than the rounded tip of the CE 399 bullet;""Wright’s assertion that CE 399 was not the bullet he had seen was supported by another FBI memo, dated 20 June 1964 and declassified several decades after the assassination: “neither DARRELL C. TOMLINSON … nor O.P. WRIGHT … can identify bullet.”"The 7 July memo was contradicted also by Bardwell D. Odum, the splendidly named FBI agent who, according to the memo, showed CE 399 to Tomlinson and Wright. Odum was interviewed by Josiah Thompson and another researcher, and denied that he had ever handled the CE 399 bullet."The Warren Commission asked the FBI in May 1964 to attempt to authenticate the chain of possession of various items of evidence, including Commission Exhibit 399. There were problems with the early stages of the bullet’s journey:
1) Tomlinson “cannot positively identify the bullet.”
2) Wright “could not positively identify C1 as being the same bullet.”
3) Johnsen “could not identify this bullet.”
4) Behn does not appear to have been asked to identify the bullet.
5) Rowley “could not identify this bullet.”The full article is worth a read and it concludes CE 399 was fraudulently introduced into evidence.
Willis has the 1st shot fired not earlier than Z205 which is the approximate verified time of his photo taken relative to the Z film location of the JFK limo.
I don't accept Willis' statements about the first shot for one second. He was a salesman who took some mediocre slides of the motorcade. He just happened to be taking pictures at the time of the assassination and realised that this made his pictures valuable. He instantly copyrighted his images and set up Phil Willis Enterprises with the express purpose of gaining financially from JFK's death. He gave his slides grandiose titles to enhance their importance and, therefore, financial value. One is entitled "His Last Wave - First Shot 3 Seconds Away", not only is JFK's final wave after this picture, it's not even a picture of JFK waving - he's brushing his hair to one side. Another is a random pic of some people milling around outside the TSBD. Willis tries to inject a bit of excitement by entitling it "The Search For The Assassin Has Already Begun". This is the light in which slide #5 has to be viewed. To heighten it's financial value Willis entitled it "Assassins First Bullet Strikes The President". There is nothing in this picture that even hints that a shot has been taken so Willis made up his little story about how he reacted to the first shot by taking the picture. He even got his kids involved.
As already stated, a shot through the tree is a non-starter and Willis requires a shot through the tree.
I’m considering the idea also of the3rd shot missed fired 0.5 sec AFTER 313 head shot because my theory is that a semi auto rifle was used and that the shooter after seeing his 1st shot not the kill shot desired, took another 4.8 secs to carefully aim and then squeezed off 2 shots in rapid succession.
It's my opinion that 3 shots were fired from the SN but that Oswald did not take the shots. This means a planned conspiracy involving others. Once this is the case the Mannlicher Carcano can be viewed as nothing more than a prop to frame Oswald. This doesn't mean the MC wasn't used, it just means there is no reason why a proper, non-toytown rifle could be used.
The 3rd /last shot was a miss because of muzzle rise just enough that caused that shot to hit the curb near Tague.
The questionable chain of handling of CE399 and how it was “found” and the presence of metallic element uncharacteristic of MC bullet found in the curb section suggest a different type bullet was fired.
I also favour a missed third shot but finding direct evidence to prove this has been a fruitless search. I have come to this conclusion through a process of elimination instead. It is odd that the third shot should miss after two successes. It is odd that a third shot should be taken after the obvious success of the head-shot. The rapidity of the third shot after the second shot might indicate an unintentional shot but it's just speculation. It might be the case that Clint Hill coming into view forced the shooter to pull the last shot high. Again, pure speculation.
