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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Challenge to Cyril Wecht
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2023, 03:00:44 AM »
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Sorry Martin but these shooters from a CBS NEWS special who were not familiar with the Italian Carcano, were replicating Oswald's shots in a much shorter timespan than the now commonly accepted 8 seconds and were all trying for about a five and a half seconds, all the while doing the shooting with a non slowing down target and exposed to the elements and one rifleman achieved 3 hits, better than Oswald. So put that in your pipe and smoke it!

“Oswald’s shots”. LOL.

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Re: Challenge to Cyril Wecht
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Offline Brian Roselle

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Re: Challenge to Cyril Wecht
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2023, 03:02:21 AM »
I can’t tell exactly why Yardley chose to spend his time on running his tests with a 7-8 second duration and using 3 shots. I didn’t see where he commented on how much effect of assembling the rifle would have. I’m not sure if it has been universally agreed to as to what sights would have been used. He just stated his overall opinion from his experiences.

If you have significantly better data than Yardley used for his combination of time, shots, and shooters, i.e. there was (between ~2 and 6 seconds) or (more than 7-8, or even 10 seconds) in combination with (less than 3 shots) or (more than 3 shots) in combination with (more than one shooter), I absolutely encourage you to continue to build on your research and verify your results with as much multiple independent pieces of physical evidence as possible.

Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Challenge to Cyril Wecht
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2023, 07:12:06 PM »
Sit in a slowly-moving convertible and let an ex-Marine sharpshooter take three shots at you with a MC (using real ammunition) if you think it's such a piece of harmless junk. Does he seriously think it's impossible to kill someone with that "joke" of a rifle from a distance of 88 yards?

An ex-Marine "sharpshooter"??? On his best day at the range, Oswald barely qualified in the second of three qualification categories. There were three categories: Marksman, Sharpshooter, and Expert. Qualifying for one of these ratings involved firing at a rifle range using a semi-automatic rifle (i.e., no manual bolt action) at ground-level stationary targets whose location the person already knew and against which he had already practiced before firing for qualification.

As the Army's Ronald Simmons explained to the WC, the military rating of Sharpshooter required only a fraction of the skill needed to achieve the NRA rating of Master.

Yet, the three Master-rated riflemen in the WC's rifle test, who used the alleged murder rifle itself, did not even come close to duplicating Oswald's supposed shooting feat. They missed the head and neck area of the target boards 19 out of 21 times.
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Offline Steve Barber

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Re: Challenge to Cyril Wecht
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2023, 02:55:57 PM »
I don't know how many times we tried it, but we couldn't duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did "

Which justifies the conclusion that it most likely didn't happen the way the WC said it did.

Good luck trying to find a LN who is reasonable enough to even entertain that possibility.

 The shooting didn't happen exactly the way the WC said it did, but then we didn't have the technology then that we have now applied to viewing the Zapruder film, which they partially relied on to reach their conclusions.  And since the Queen Mary was used during the re-enactment of the men seated in the car, false conclusions came about.  The Queen Mary wasn't even close to proving the correct measurements between both JFK and Connally--which makes a great amount of difference when testing the single bullet hitting both men.  Connally was seated much lower, and seated to Kennedy's left within the SS-100-X, and Wecht knows this, yet he continues to lie to people about how JFK and JBC were seated in the limousine.  Bold faced lying, I might add.
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Offline Sean Kneringer

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Re: Challenge to Cyril Wecht
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2023, 04:10:28 PM »
Qualifying for one of these ratings involved firing at a rifle range using a semi-automatic rifle (i.e., no manual bolt action) at ground-level stationary targets whose location the person already knew and against which he had already practiced before firing for qualification.


Yes, he was able to reliably hit a target well beyond the 88 yards needed in Dallas. 

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Yet, the three Master-rated riflemen in the WC's rifle test, who used the alleged murder rifle itself, did not even come close to duplicating Oswald's supposed shooting feat. They missed the head and neck area of the target boards 19 out of 21 times.

Did they have nine to ten seconds instead of six? Was the target slowing down towards the end like the limo did in Dallas?

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Re: Challenge to Cyril Wecht
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2023, 04:10:28 PM »