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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: An Important New Find Regarding Rose Cherami
« Reply #136 on: June 03, 2021, 01:41:45 PM »
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If it's backup you require, consider that there is nothing backing up the idea that Cherami mentioned Dallas before the assassination.  No reports were ever filed.  In 1967, Weiss even told investigator Frank Meloche that he wasn't even certain whether or not Cherami spoke of Dallas before or after the assassination.

Cherami most likely made statements to Lt. Fruge (Louisiana State Police) AFTER Ruby shot Oswald saying that Ruby and Oswald knew each other.  I believe she even went as far as saying they were "bed partners".  In my opinion (and I dove hard into this about ten years ago), after Oswald was killed, Cherami claimed to Fruge that Ruby and Oswald knew each other, i.e. Oswald was inside Ruby's nightclub.  In my opinion, this is all that was said by Cherami regarding anything assassination-related; nothing beforehand.

In 1967, preparing for the Shaw trial, Garrison investigators interviewed hospital personnel at the East Louisiana State Hospital and not one person remembers hearing any talk of Cherami ever warning of or speaking of an upcoming assassination in Dallas before it happened.

"If it's backup you require, consider that there is nothing backing up the idea that Cherami mentioned Dallas before the assassination.  No reports were ever filed."

How do you know that no reports were ever filed?
This is another statement that needs backing up.
You've basically accused Fruge et al. of lying about the whole affair. I've asked if you have evidence of that accusation and you've answered with another statement that needs backing up!

I find it incredible that Fruge would not have filed a report about the flight to Houston and the attempted bust of the narcotics deal based on Cherami's intel.
I find it incredible Fruge would involve Colonel Morgan and Colonel Burbank in this lie (he reports telling them both about Cherami's "prediction")
I just basically find it incredible that Fruge would come up with something like this at all. What's the point? Why involve so many high-ranking people who could call him out on his BS? Why involve Durham and the Customs department and others? It's such an insanely massive lie.
How are Fruge, Weiss and Magruder connected? Are they in on it together or making up their stories separately?

I'm really unconvinced by the way you're just trying to brush this off as it's a done deal.
You're point seems to be that we weren't in the vehicle when Rose told her story so we'll never really know.
The same is true for the 6th floor of the TSBD at the moment of the assassination.

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Re: An Important New Find Regarding Rose Cherami
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Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: An Important New Find Regarding Rose Cherami
« Reply #137 on: June 03, 2021, 02:57:30 PM »
"Evidence"... since when did evidence matter? So many are FoS, "in it" to pursue publishing profit or merely attention.

The 1957 article describes Melba Christine as age 30 and the 1960 article as age 33. Her gravestone indicates 1923 as the year of her birth.

https://jfkfacts.org/comment-of-the-week-10/#comment-843927


Fred, you know what you know, and when the evidence is with you, I'm with you.

Would I have to fill an entire bus with people who either met Oswald or DeMorhrenschildt or were one person removed, and later tangled or tangoed with Bush, to persuade you from moving to, "I don't know" from your present position? Especially if you buy the narrative of "Oswald, lone assassin, his best friend in Dallas was DeMohrenschildt."

The list of names graduated from Andover in the subsequent three years. They are pictured above the A.U.V. secret society house they all resided in. Hooker was DeMohrenschildt's oil exploration business partner, his mother married DeMohrenschildt's brother in 1936. Bush was an usher in Hooker's wedding. After Hooker died in 1967, Bush escorted his daughter down the aisle in her 1972 church wedding. Macomber was best man in Bush's sister's 1946 wedding, and in Tom Devine's 1973 wedding. E. Howard Hunt's clearance to review 1963 diplomatic cables related to the murders of the Diem brothers, was approved by Macomber, a former CIA agent and Sen. John Sherman Cooper (S&B at Yale) staffer, who was hustled off to Turkey by Dept. of State in reaction to news that Hunt forged cables to impugn JFK's rep.

Devine lived in the Sigma Chi frat house @ M.I.T. with 16 other frat brothers. One was Garry Coit, Priscilla's CIA handler.
Devine reported nine contacts with DeMohrenschildt between April 25, 1963 and the end of May. His initial meeting was two weeks after DeMohrenschildt described joking with Oswald, "Lee, how could you miss?" in reaction to news of the shooting at Edwin Walker. On that same day, Joseph F Dryer said he also met with DeMohrenschildt and Clemard Charles. Devine, Dryer, and Macomber were friends growing up in Rochester.

https://sigmachi.mit.edu/docs/beaver_sigs/1946_bsig_vol1946_no1.pdf




From "Our man in Haiti" by Joan Mellen


After I discovered from Devine's 1944 high school yearbook that Dryer's brother Peter had been a member (20 boys) of Devine's K-8 class before departing for Choate, I wrote to Joan to inquire whether Joseph Dryer had mentioned Devine.





Billy Joe Lord to President Carter, March, 1977 :

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=9963#relPageId=175

And...




Henry Hurt's wife is Bemiss's cousin.


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/88891802/langbourne-meade-williams



https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=145503#relPageId=135&search=beamis_and%20hotels


Dang, Tom, no one can keep up to you !  How Divine !!

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Re: Was Rose Cherami Murdered?
« Reply #138 on: June 03, 2021, 02:58:18 PM »
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/was-rose-cherami-murdered

Conspiracy theorists used to say that she was the victim of a hit and run. Now,
they say she was shot. But, her medical records provide no evidence that she
was short.

Your turn, Jim.........

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Re: Was Rose Cherami Murdered?
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Offline Fred Litwin

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« Reply #139 on: June 03, 2021, 03:53:00 PM »
http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2021/06/the-ghost-of-grassy-knoll-gunman.html

Nick Nalli is a brilliant scientist, and this review deserves to be widely disseminated....

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Re: Nick Nalli Reviews Josiah Thompson's Last Second in Dallas
« Reply #140 on: June 03, 2021, 05:28:22 PM »
Outstanding piece of work.

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Re: Nick Nalli Reviews Josiah Thompson's Last Second in Dallas
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Nick Nalli Reviews Josiah Thompson's Last Second in Dallas
« Reply #141 on: June 04, 2021, 10:35:07 AM »
Outstanding piece of work.

I read it a couple of hours ago. It is a must read.

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Re: Nick Nalli Reviews Josiah Thompson's Last Second in Dallas
« Reply #142 on: June 09, 2021, 10:37:52 PM »
Nalli confronts Thompson's belief in David Wimp's "blur illusion", that the forward motion between Z312 and Z313 is over-estimated (ie: Thompson thinks the forward movement was half of the two-inches usually claimed).



Z312 and Z313


Z312 and Z312 with horizontal
blur to imitate that of Z313


Blurred Z312 and Z313

It is unusual and educational to have the caliber of a book by Josiah Thompson reviewed by Nicholas Nalli.

(I think the GIF on the right could have had better registration; the back seat and the parade bar aren't matching to the pixel. Aligning those points will slightly draw blurred-Z312 to the left, which would decrease the amount of movement to Kennedy's head, to make it more like two inches.)

Just made this GIF with better-quality frames, applying an horizontal-linear smear filter to Z312, similar to what Nalli did.



Nellie Connally is the only one who seems stationary (Greer's head may move a tiny bit). Mrs. Kennedy moves forward in space (towards the camera), Governor Connally moves upwards and to camera-right, and Kellerman's head moves forwards. These movements of Connally and Kellerman can be seen occurring between Z311 and Z312 and continue smoothly after Z313 (ie: not caused by some sudden braking of the car). Mrs. Kennedy seems to have an immediately reaction to the head shot, maybe ducking her head beginning Z315.

I would guess the forward movement of Kennedy's head in this animation is two inches. Nelli's animation had too much forward movement.

That's a really interesting GIF Jerry, thanks for sharing!  It seems to me that the heads of Kellerman and Connally also seem to slightly move forward (although not as much as JFK).  Whether this is a function of the Z313 blurring or whether JFK, Connally and Kellerman all moved in that fraction of a second is hard to know.

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« Reply #143 on: June 14, 2021, 04:14:59 PM »
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-a-homosexual-conspiracy-kill-jfk

Did a Homosexual Conspiracy Kill JFK?

In April 1967, a German Magazine published an article purportedly written by Jim Garrison about the homosexual conspiracy that killed JFK. I now present the entire article and a translation. But did Jim Garrison write the article? This is the first of a multi-part series to examine this very interesting piece of writing.

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