On The Trail Of Delusion

[Walt Cakebread]

Post your evidence.

That's a very tall request Fred...... The only way to learn that I'm telling the truth, and satisfy yourself, is: ...Open your eyes and pay attention to Richard Nagell's statements....   

[Fred Litwin]

So you won't post any evidence?

[Walt Cakebread]

So you won't post any evidence?

Be reasonable man...... I'd have to write a book to present what I believe is the truth....  I agree completely with Nagell.

He innocently ran afoul of J. Edgar Hoover....and ended up paying dearly for his mistake.

Nagell thought that he could foil the assassination of JFK by tipping off Hoover .....   Nagell had stumbled across the plot and didn't realize that Hoover was abetting and sanctioning the plot.    Nagell knew that The FBI had jurisdiction over investigations  of robberies of federally insured banks...Thus he pretended to attempt to rob the bank and get himself arrested.   He had to call the bank guard's attention to himself before the guard arrested him.   He could very easily have drove away, but he wanted to be arrested because he wanted to make contact with the FBI....  (Lee Oswald also requested an audience with the FBI in New Orleans so he could apprise the FBI about the illegal gun running at Bannister's office)

[Fred Litwin]

I know all the claims.

But how about some evidence for ANY of it? It's one thing for Nagell to say something...but that's all there is. There is
NO, I repeat, NO evidence to support anything he said.

fred

[Walt Cakebread]

I know all the claims.

But how about some evidence for ANY of it? It's one thing for Nagell to say something...but that's all there is. There is
NO, I repeat, NO evidence to support anything he said.

fred

No evidence??    Did Nagell make an real attempt to rob that bank?  He fired a couple of bullets high into a wall and left....He said nothing to the teller about giving him any money.....  He merely displayed the revolver to her, he didn't even hint that he wanted any money.    So why did they throw the book at him for attempted bank robbery?  Because Hoover wanted him in prison where he couldn't talk to reporters.     If he had not refused a lawyer ( Agents are trained to avoid lawyers if they are in legal trouble because they might reveal that they are a government agent. Recall that Lee Oswald refused the lawyer that was offered )  Any competent lawyer could  have had Nagell out of custody in 15 minutes.

I'm Sorry Fred.....If you can't see through the smoke screen....I'm not going to try to help you.

[Fred Litwin]

That's not true. Nagell asked for travelers checks.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-richard-case-nagell-try-to-buy-travelers-checks-at-the-state-national-bank-in-el-paso

There is not one iota of evidence that he knew Oswald before the assassination. Not one iota.

fred

[Walt Cakebread]

That's not true. Nagell asked for travelers checks.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-richard-case-nagell-try-to-buy-travelers-checks-at-the-state-national-bank-in-el-paso

There is not one iota of evidence that he knew Oswald before the assassination. Not one iota.

fred

That's not true. Nagell asked for travelers checks.

Yes, he did ask for travelers checks .....But he did NOT indicate that he was going to take them without paying for them....And the travelers checks were never presented to him...   The clerk had turned to go get the checks when Nagell said " Lady this is a real gun"   Then when she dived beneath a desk and was safe, he fired two shots high into the wall of the bank and left....

How can you construe that as bank robbery ??

There is not one iota of evidence that he knew Oswald before the assassination. Not one iota.

The police found a Military ID card with Lee Oswald's photo and signature on it among items in Nagell's luggage in his car at the time they searched it when he was arrested in El Paso on September 20 1963 .   While that doesn't prove that he knew Lee Oswald before the assassination.....It certainly provides a link of some kind between Nagell and Oswald.

[Fred Litwin]

What complete nonsense!

There is no evidence they found such a card on Nagell. NONE.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/dick-russell-s-second-smoking-gun-on-the-richard-case-nagell-story

fred