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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #168 on: August 10, 2021, 12:20:04 AM »
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What complete nonsense!

There is no evidence they found such a card on Nagell. NONE.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/dick-russell-s-second-smoking-gun-on-the-richard-case-nagell-story

fred

Perhaps you should review the evidence after you extract your head.....   The police most certainly did find a military ID card with Lee Oswald's photo and signature on it among Nagells possessions on September 20 1963.    Argue as you will...But that card is verification that Nagell had some connection to Lee Oswald.

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
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Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #169 on: August 10, 2021, 12:46:41 AM »
The police did not find such a card. Did you read my post?

A poor photocopy of card was found by Bernard Fensterwald in 1976!  I posted
the police inventory report and the FBI report of what was found on Nagell. No such card.

There is NO evidence such a card was found in Nagell's possession in 1963. But if you have
such evidence, then please, for the loving god, post it.

fred

Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #170 on: August 10, 2021, 03:20:16 AM »
Here's something ...

JFK conspiracy theory is debunked in Mexico 57 years after Kennedy assassination ( Link )
by Gonzalo Soltero, Nov 19, 2020

( Óscar Contreras Lartigue 1967 claim )

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #171 on: August 10, 2021, 04:49:09 AM »
What complete nonsense!

Welcome to the wacky World of Walt Fabrications.
The attached thread below outlining the long list of Walt's fabrications was written by another hardcore fanatical Conspiracy theorist. Go figure.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,99.0.html

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« Last Edit: August 10, 2021, 05:27:15 AM by John Mytton »

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #172 on: August 10, 2021, 04:09:41 PM »
The police did not find such a card. Did you read my post?

A poor photocopy of card was found by Bernard Fensterwald in 1976!  I posted
the police inventory report and the FBI report of what was found on Nagell. No such card.

There is NO evidence such a card was found in Nagell's possession in 1963. But if you have
such evidence, then please, for the loving god, post it.

fred

Do you really believe that the card simply materialized from thin air?   You certainly have acknowledged that this whole Nagell episode is centered on Nagell's connection to Lee Oswald.    So why are you so adamant that Nagell didn't have the card in his possession.   

Are you aware that Francis Gary Powers (CIA)  was carrying one of these ID cards when he was captured in Russia in May of 1960.  Lee Oswald had one of those cards, Richard Nagell had one of those cards, and FG Powers had one of those cards.

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Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #173 on: August 10, 2021, 04:20:35 PM »
Why I am adamant that Nagell did not have Oswald's card in his possession.

Because he didn't.

I have posted the list of Nagell's possessions at the time of his arriest. There is no Oswald card listed.

If you read Dick Russell, he says that he discovered a poor photocopy of the card in the Nagell file in Bernard
Fensterwald's office in 1976.

A poor photocopy. Found in 1976.

There is no evidence at all that Nagell had this card in 1963.

fred

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #174 on: August 10, 2021, 04:30:30 PM »
Why I am adamant that Nagell did not have Oswald's card in his possession.

Because he didn't.

I have posted the list of Nagell's possessions at the time of his arriest. There is no Oswald card listed.

If you read Dick Russell, he says that he discovered a poor photocopy of the card in the Nagell file in Bernard
Fensterwald's office in 1976.

A poor photocopy. Found in 1976.

There is no evidence at all that Nagell had this card in 1963.

fred

So what was Nagells motive for firing those shots in the El Paso bank?     And why did he flag down the bank guard so the guard could arrest him, when he could easily have driven away?

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #175 on: August 10, 2021, 04:31:59 PM »
Hold it. Are you changing the subject?

Are you giving up on your claim that Nagell had the Oswald card in his possession in 1963?

Let's clear that one up, first.

Let me know.

fred

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Re: Is This Document the Smoking Gun in the Richard Case Nagell Story?
« Reply #175 on: August 10, 2021, 04:31:59 PM »