On The Trail Of Delusion

[John Tonkovich]

Mr Litwin: as previously stated, Mr Garrison should be credited with:
1) presenting the Zapruder film
2) presenting Ruth Paine, and her prevarication
3) presenting Robert Frazier, and his testimony, especially in regards to the first shot
4) presenting Marina Oswald, and her testimony re: Ruth Paine and CIA

If your book presents these subjects, I will happily buy it.

[Fred Litwin]

Yes, it yet another one of those - i'll only buy YOUR book if it covers what I want.

There is very little in my current book, On The Trail of Delusion, and my last book, I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak, on the assassination itself. I am far
more interested in conspiracy thinking.

My current book covers:

- The truth about Permindex/CMC, the truth about Louis Bloomfield.

- The dead man that Garrison wanted to charge with being a grassy knoll assassin.

- The ridiculous story of Edgar Eugene Bradley - who Garrison wanted to charge with conspiracy to kill JFK.

- The Fred Crisman story.

- How Garrison tried to mislead the HSCA.

- Why Fletcher Prouty was off his rocker.

And, of course, the Clay Shaw story. Oh, and I also include some terrific cartoons about Garrison.

fred

[John Tonkovich]

Bugliosi, Mailer and Posner all interviewed numerous witnesses, some who were never interviewed before, and found primary sources of information on the assassination, directly and indirectly.

For example, Mailer interviewed the Belarus KGB agents who monitored Oswald. And also many of the associates that Oswald knew when he was in Minsk. And he (Mailer) read the KGB files on Oswald. This was all original material/information.

Posner interviewed, among others, Yuri Nosenko. Bugliosi interviewed McClelland and got him to admit that the head wound was further forward then in the sketch he (incorrectly) claimed that he did for Thompson.

To simply dismiss these works as "secondary" research is short sighted.

As to cynicism: I think if you told a cynic that dozens (hundreds?) of people remained silent for decades after committing or being in involved in a terrible act even though they could have made money and fame by exposing it later he'd laugh you off as being a naive fool.

Strawman argument . Yes. Who said anything about vast conspiracy? Not me.
Posner ( know plagiarist) presented secondary sources as primary. Yes.
Need I continue?

[John Tonkovich]

Mr Litwin: have you discovered Garrison's motivation for launching his ridiculous case? That would be a reason to write a book.

[Fred Litwin]

Yes.

[Louis Earl]

Not defending Garrison but hearsay is common in grand jury testimony.  The rules of evidence do not apply to grand juries because they are not adversarial proceedings. 

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Not defending Garrison but hearsay is common in grand jury testimony.  The rules of evidence do not apply to grand juries because they are not adversarial proceedings.

True, but if you read the GJ testimonies you'll see (in my opinion) that Garrison abused this rule. He didn't really question witnesses as much as try to guide or direct them.  As in this bizarre exchange with Marina:

Q. Juror: "Marina, did the Secret Service say to you, Marina, it is better for you not to see Ruth Paine anymore because its not good for you, she might be saying things fo the CIA that might be detrimental to you, Marina?"

Marina: "No, because she....what is CIA?"

A. "Central Intelligence Agency."

A. "Could she be member?"

Garrison: "She probably is employee."

In fact, Marina thought the CIA was a reference to the American Civil Liberties Union, an organization that the Paines belonged too. She testfiied that the first time she had ever heard of the CIA was AFTER the assassination.

Her strange (very) GJ testimony is here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1203&search=CIA#relPageId=72&tab=page

[Fred Litwin]

Jim Garrison used the grand jury to terrorize people. He had the subpoena power
to get people into the grand jury room where they would not have access to a lawyer.

Then he would charge them with perjury, which is a felony.

Garrison had the power to charge with any non-capital crime with the stroke of a pen. He didn't
have to go the grand jury, he could do it by himself.

That would force people to get a lawyer, and would make it hard to get a mortgage, bank loans, etc. Then,
right before the trial, Garrison would drop the charges.

This is why people were scared of Garrison.