On The Trail Of Delusion

[Walt Cakebread]

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/was-gary-underhill-the-man-who-knew-too-much

Gary Underhill worked in military intelligence during World War II. He was also a domestic contact of the CIA. He committed suicide in 1964, right after the assassination of JFK. Conspiracy theorists believe his death is suspicious because he knew too much. The reality is far different - he was a distraught man whose marriage had collapsed. Here is the full Gary Underhill story.

Say what you will..... But Mr Underhill KNEW that JFK was murdered by renegade elements of the CIA.

[Jerry Freeman]

John McAdams knew Underhill?

The reality is that Gary Underhill had no inside information about the CIA. As John McAdams pointed out, "He was, quite simply, a mentally unstable fellow who thought there was a JFK conspiracy, just as many other (stable and unstable) Americans did."

IOW nothing to see here--- move on....you unstable people 

[Gerry Down]

Gary Underhill sounds like an unfortunate individual.

[Fred Litwin]

Mark Lane Interviews Roger Craig
Here is a Garrison Investigation memo that, to my knowledge, has never been published. Roger Craig was a fabulist, pure and simple, and he had mental health problems. This memo provides more evidence that he was making things up.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/mark-lane-interviews-roger-craig

Fred Litwin
www.onthetrailofdelusion.com

[Walt Cakebread]

Mark Lane Interviews Roger Craig
Here is a Garrison Investigation memo that, to my knowledge, has never been published. Roger Craig was a fabulist, pure and simple, and he had mental health problems. This memo provides more evidence that he was making things up.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/mark-lane-interviews-roger-craig

Fred Litwin
www.onthetrailofdelusion.com

Roger Craig was a fabulist, pure and simple,

Yes, I agree with you're assessment of Roger Craig, Fred ....  But..... He also was an eye witness, and I don't believe it's smart to dismiss his entire testimony because he embroidered on some of the events.  Roger saw things and simply stated what he saw.....I believe that Roger did see a young man run down the slope and climb into a Rambler station wagon.   But the details of that man being Lee Oswald are simply a figment of Roger's imagination.

I sincerely hope that you will agree, because along with other things Roger talked about, was his recollection about  how the rifle was positioned when Boone and Weitzman found it.     Roger's account collaborates the accounts of Deputy Boone, Seymour Weitzman, and Tom Alyea.    Roger said that there was no way that the 5'9" Lee Oswald could have placed the rifle on the floor beneath the pallet of books while he was standing on the north side of the row of books at the top of the stairs....And Tom Alyea said that it was obvious that the hiding place of the rifle had been prepared BEFORE the shooting.

This case is loaded with fabulists ( it's very common among Texans ) And that is what makes this case so frustrating....

Wild Bill Whaley is a great example of the liars that abound in this case.....

[Gerry Down]

Roger said that there was no way that the 5'9" Lee Oswald could have placed the rifle on the floor beneath the pallet of books while he was standing on the north side of the row of books at the top of the stairs.

Couldn't Oswald have bent down on his knees on the east side of the stacks of boxes and slid the rifle into its hiding place?

And Tom Alyea said that it was obvious that the hiding place of the rifle had been prepared BEFORE the shooting.

Where did Tom Alyea say this?

[Dan O'meara]

Couldn't Oswald have bent down on his knees on the east side of the stacks of boxes and slid the rifle into its hiding place?

Where did Tom Alyea say this?

Alyea never said this.
In fact he filmed the rifle in an upright position but old Walt has made up his mind and evidence be damned.

[Walt Cakebread]

Couldn't Oswald have bent down on his knees on the east side of the stacks of boxes and slid the rifle into its hiding place?

Where did Tom Alyea say this?

  Hoorah....I've found it.....Tom Alyea observed that the hiding place for the  carcano  was obviously pre constructed  Alyea recognized that the site had to have been  constructed  BEFORE the shooting.....      Question for Tom Alyea.....  Q - Did Oswald get enough time to hide his weapon so perfectly,  Tom Alyea answered:....    Yes, Oswald had time to  hide the rifle   The hiding place was obviously pre constructed.    Tom Alyea overlooked a few important aspects.....   slip the rifle under the overhanging boxes"   But Tom that rifle weighed 9 pounds and it had a scope so it couldn'thave simply bee slid into place beneath that pallet of books.  at least you're right on one important point Mr Alyea.... The hiding place was in fact constructed  before  the shooting.  Oh BTW Tom.....Can you explain the boxes that formed the " roof" above the rifle ? you may recall that Boone removed that "roof " and shined his flashlight down onto the floor where he spotted a tiny portion of the butt of the rifle beneath the wooden pallet.