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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Jim Garrison's Playboy Interview - What couldn't Be Published
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2020, 06:52:06 PM »
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Not defending Garrison but hearsay is common in grand jury testimony.  The rules of evidence do not apply to grand juries because they are not adversarial proceedings.
True, but if you read the GJ testimonies you'll see (in my opinion) that Garrison abused this rule. He didn't really question witnesses as much as try to guide or direct them.  As in this bizarre exchange with Marina:

Q. Juror: "Marina, did the Secret Service say to you, Marina, it is better for you not to see Ruth Paine anymore because its not good for you, she might be saying things fo the CIA that might be detrimental to you, Marina?"

Marina: "No, because she....what is CIA?"

A. "Central Intelligence Agency."

A. "Could she be member?"

Garrison: "She probably is employee."

In fact, Marina thought the CIA was a reference to the American Civil Liberties Union, an organization that the Paines belonged too. She testfiied that the first time she had ever heard of the CIA was AFTER the assassination.

Her strange (very) GJ testimony is here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1203&search=CIA#relPageId=72&tab=page
« Last Edit: November 02, 2020, 08:26:43 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

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Re: Jim Garrison's Playboy Interview - What couldn't Be Published
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Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: Jim Garrison's Playboy Interview - What couldn't Be Published
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2020, 08:25:18 PM »
Jim Garrison used the grand jury to terrorize people. He had the subpoena power
to get people into the grand jury room where they would not have access to a lawyer.

Then he would charge them with perjury, which is a felony.

Garrison had the power to charge with any non-capital crime with the stroke of a pen. He didn't
have to go the grand jury, he could do it by himself.

That would force people to get a lawyer, and would make it hard to get a mortgage, bank loans, etc. Then,
right before the trial, Garrison would drop the charges.

This is why people were scared of Garrison.

Offline Fred Litwin

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Was Kerry Thornley The Second Oswald?
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2020, 04:25:36 PM »
Was Kerry Thornley the Second Oswald?

Jim Garrison believed that Kerry Thornley, a Marine buddy of Oswald's, was perhaps impersonating him.

In fact, he wrote the HSCA that maybe it was Thornley in the infamous Oswald backyard photos.

You can see his memo on my blog....

Sound bizarre - wait till you see what they thought in 1968. I have part of a transcript from a discussion Garrison had with his investigators!

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/blog

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Offline Gerry Down

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Re: Was Kerry Thornley The Second Oswald?
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2020, 04:34:37 PM »
In fact, he wrote the HSCA that maybe it was Thornley in the infamous Oswald backyard photos.

I don't think so. I think the backyard photos are of Oswald. How could the Dallas police have faked them so soon as to have them ready on Nov 23rd to show Oswald?

Offline Joe Mannix

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Re: Was Kerry Thornley The Second Oswald?
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2020, 06:28:54 PM »
DPD didn't fake them, the CIA did. Had Tippit killed the patsy those photo's would've cinched his guilt and Cuba would've been invaded.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Was Kerry Thornley The Second Oswald?
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2020, 07:29:17 PM »
Was Kerry Thornley the Second Oswald?

Jim Garrison believed that Kerry Thornley, a Marine buddy of Oswald's, was perhaps impersonating him.

In fact, he wrote the HSCA that maybe it was Thornley in the infamous Oswald backyard photos.

You can see his memo on my blog....

Sound bizarre - wait till you see what they thought in 1968. I have part of a transcript from a discussion Garrison had with his investigators!

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/blog

Thornley is a bs artist. playing fast & loose with the facts... another Lovelady-was-Oswald-in-the-doorway kook. Why believe anything he says.
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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Was Kerry Thornley The Second Oswald?
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2020, 02:56:34 PM »
Interesting fella...

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Kerry Wendell Thornley met Lee Harvey Oswald while in the United States Marines in 1959. Later that year Thornley was transferred to Atsugi in Japan.

In 1962 Thornley wrote a novel called The Idle Warriors about a disgruntled marine who defects to the Soviet Union. The book was based on Thornley's knowledge of Oswald. The following year Thornley moved to New Orleans where it was claimed he associated with Guy Banister, David Ferrie and Clay Shaw. Oswald was also living in the city at that time but Thornley insisted that the two men never met during this period. The two men were also both in Mexico City in September 1963.

The FBI were aware of Thornley's novel and so after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy he was asked to testify before the Warren Commission.
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Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: Was Kerry Thornley The Second Oswald?
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2020, 04:23:33 PM »
Thornley was in Mexico City in late August and very early September. He left on September 2nd. Oswald was in Mexico City in
late September. They overlapped in New Orleans for about three weeks.

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« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2020, 04:23:33 PM »