On The Trail Of Delusion

[Jon Banks]

Marina certainly said she took the photos.

fred

She said she took “one photo” (it looks like several different poses were photographed) and today she denies ever taking the photos.

If you’re going to lean so much on Marina’s testimony, don’t cherry-pick or at least acknowledge that she’s given inconsistent testimony…

[Richard Smith]

She said she took “one photo” (it looks like several different poses were photographed) and today she denies ever taking the photos.

If you’re going to lean so much on Marina’s testimony, don’t cherry-pick or at least acknowledge that she’s given inconsistent testimony…

If she took one photo, that means at least one BY photo is authentic and depict Oswald holding the rifle.  What would then be the point of any conspirator faking the other photos?  It doesn't make any sense.

[Fred Litwin]

Did you read her HSCA testimony. She said she took two photographs but she wasn't sure how many. They showed
her the third photograph, and she just shrugged. Yeah, ok..I must have taken three.

fred

[Jon Banks]

If she took one photo, that means at least one BY photo is authentic and depict Oswald holding the rifle.  What would then be the point of any conspirator faking the other photos?  It doesn't make any sense.

The photos are very incriminating for Oswald regardless of who took them.

It seems to me that the questions about the discrepancies with the Carcano rifle are the bigger concern.

[Jon Banks]

Did you read her HSCA testimony. She said she took two photographs but she wasn't sure how many. They showed
her the third photograph, and she just shrugged. Yeah, ok..I must have taken three.

fred

You’re correct. She said she took two but also inaccurately described how to use the Imperial Reflex camera (it operates differently than most cameras).

My broader point stands. Marina changed her stories too many times to be considered a good witness.

She even said at one point that she didn’t know Lee owned a rifle until they moved to New Orleans, which contradicted her later testimony about the backyard photos and the Gen. Walker incident.

She was a bad liar or had a poor memory but either way, she wasn’t a great witness.

[David Von Pein]

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/backyard-photos.html

[Dan O'meara]

A few notes on the Backyard photos:

- There are visible differences between the rifle in the BYP and the Sixth Floor rifle.

- The Sixth floor rifle appears to be a different Carcano model than the one Oswald allegedly ordered.

- Marina says she didn't take the photos fwiw. I've long held that Marina isn't a credible witness due to her willingness to lie and misremember stuff but LN'ers almost always cherry-pick the testimony from Marina that supports their narrative while downplaying her credibility problems.

- I have no idea what to think of the rifle and backyard photo controversies. It isn't the most important issue in my opinion. It's just one of many weird things in the Kennedy assassination investigations.

"There are visible differences between the rifle in the BYP and the Sixth Floor rifle."

I wasn't aware of this.
If true, it is tremendously important.
What are the "visible differences"?

[Steve M. Galbraith]

The photos are very incriminating for Oswald regardless of who took them.

It seems to me that the questions about the discrepancies with the Carcano rifle are the bigger concern.

I'll defer to the photographic experts who used technical methods to examine the photos over our - yours or mine or anyone's - eyeball interpretation. Wouldn't you?

Jon, you don't really think your judgment is superior to what the photographic experts did? Yes, maybe they are wrong - appeal to authority and all. But just saying your view is superior to theirs isn't persuasive.

And to clarify: their conclusion was, if I recall (too lazy to check right now) that it was "probably" the same rifle not that it definitely was.