On The Trail Of Delusion

[Dan O'meara]

I’m not arguing that the BYP are fake so no, I’m not questioning the experts’ view that the photos are authentic.

On the rifle in the BYP, the loop for the rifle strap is on the bottom of the rifle while the rifle found on the Sixth floor of the Book Depository had loops/straps on the side. I’ll post a photo later if I can find comparisons.

The remaining controversy regarding the BYP is, who took the pictures if not Marina? She has given very inconsistent testimony on the photos which suggests that either she lied about taking the pictures or she has a very poor memory.

"I’ll post a photo later if I can find comparisons."

It'd be great if you could post the photo showing the visible differences between the BYP rifle and the TSBD rifle.
It seems really important.

[Jerry Freeman]

Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?

Why ask the question if you have already decided the answer?

The first photo alterationist was Lee Harvey Oswald -- he wouldn't even admit that the face was his.

Just stuffing words there.
Is that supposed to be legal testimony?....It's not.
In June 2018 I started a BY photo thread....
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,863.msg18903.html#msg18903
I believe I was called "a mindless dog barking in the night". Cute.
I never claimed I had any answers...just only asking the questions....
Why would someone go to such pronounced lengths to incriminate themself?

[Richard Smith]

Most people don’t forget details of the first time they did something. Especially if it was for an unusual occasion as strange as Lee’s backyard photos. How often did Lee ask her to take pictures of him posing with guns? Rare and emotionally stressful events aren’t easily forgotten.

No one in the film argues that the photos are fake.

The fact that they brought up the Backyard Photos while discussing the inconsistencies with the rifle imply that the producers of JFK Revisited accept that the BYP are authentic.

Then why question why Marina can't remember how many pictures that she took?

[Jon Banks]

Then why question why Marina can't remember how many pictures that she took?

Because it could mean she didn’t tell the truth.

If your spouse asks you to take pictures of her posing with guns, would you easily forget major details about that event?

[Rick Plant]

As I've posted in another thread, the Oswald Backyard photos went under rigorous forensic photo analysis just a few years ago and every photo was proven to be 100% authentic with absolutely no forgery. Forged photos from the 60's would be easy to identify, unlike from today, with the best computer technology that can alter photos making it more difficult to ascertain if they are indeed legitimate. Obviously Marina had to take them because Oswald wasn't really close to other people who would have taken them for him.       

[Rick Plant]

It's pretty clear from Marina's HSCA testimony that she had no idea how many Backyard photos existed or how to use an Imperial Reflex Camera.

She wasn't able to say if she took 1, 2, 3, or 4 pictures (there were at least four).

She couldn't explain to the HSCA how to operate the camera (strange that she wouldn't remember the details of the first time she ever used a camera).

Still, she probably did take the photos but if that's true, why has her testimony been so inconsistent?

Most likely she wanted to distance herself from any involvement with Lee so she played dumb. People do this all the time. 

[Jerry Freeman]

  Obviously Marina had to take them because Oswald wasn't really close to other people who would have taken them for him.     

Still wondering why it is so obvious. When demonstrating to Robert Blakey and the HSCA panel.. how she had used the camera ...she held it upside down. She couldn't state at first whether she took more than one picture...no one could explain how a 3rd B Y photo popped up out of the blue thirteen years later ---

In 1976, during the Schweiker-Hart assassination investigation, another "backyard photograph" emerged. This one was found by Mrs. Geneva Ruth Dees, widow of Roscoe Anthony White, who began working for the Dallas Police, in the photographic department, on October 7, 1963. The picture was found among a collection of 40 photographs retained by White as souvenirs. According to Mrs. Dees, White, her former husband, was skilled in trick photography.

 I suspect that Roscoe White could have been involved in framing Oswald.

I still wonder why.... Why no other rolls of film were ever connected to that camera?...Also where were the negatives processed and printed? ..Why was the rest of the film roll not utilized? ... I mean regular routine family pictures should have conscientiously occurred to a somewhat frugal Oswald.
 Sorry...58 years later and it all still really stinks.

[Jerry Freeman]

.. the Oswald Backyard photos went under rigorous forensic photo analysis just a few years ago and every photo was proven to be 100% authentic with absolutely no forgery.

...and Hussein had WMDs.

Lee Harvey Oswald in the backyard of his Dallas apartment home in April 1963.

For decades, conspiracy theorists have claimed the famous "backyard photo" of Lee Harvey Oswald, which shows him holding the same type of rifle used to assassinate JFK, is a fake — a claim that Oswald himself made when he was arrested. But thanks to a scientist who has studied this photo before and stated previously it was "highly improbable that anyone could have created such a perfect forgery with the technology available in 1963," that claim has now been debunked.

A new study out of Dartmouth, published in the Journal of Digital Forensics, Security, and Law, used sophisticated 3D imaging technology to analyze key details of the photo, including Oswald's pose, and found that the photo is indeed authentic, a press release notes.

"Our detailed analysis of Oswald's pose, the lighting and shadows, and the rifle in his hands refutes the argument of photo tampering," said Hany Farid, the study's senior author.

Both the Warren Commission and a special House committee on assassinations had already found photo tampering hadn't taken place, and Farid had done studies in 2009 and 2010 that determined the photo's lighting and shadows were indeed feasible, per Phys.org. But some said that Oswald's pose in the photo, in which he appears to be standing somewhat off-balance, was a physical impossibility, so this time around Farid and his team put the photo through a rigorous 3D stability analysis. By adding appropriate mass little by little to each section of a 3D model of Oswald, they were able to examine Oswald's balance to show he certainly could have stood that way. The study also found, once again, that the lighting, shadows, and rifle length were also plausible.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/20/newser-lee-harvey-oswald/74264150/
 Words like feasible and plausible don't sound all that exact to me.
The "study" reproduced models of the photos but did they ever find an actual guy who could stand like that rifle in hand? Oswald could have been on Americas got talent.
Someone explain why the rifle has a scope in some pictures and in others not?