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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #496 on: November 26, 2021, 08:13:48 PM »
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The Commie literature thing is unique for someone from the South (Marxists were extremely rare in the Jim Crow South)but not incriminating.

The only way something like that becomes incriminating relevant is if the person in the photos is accused of a violent crime.

I'm not exactly sure what other context something could ever be deemed incriminating unless someone is accused of a crime.  The BY photos are incriminating in the context of the JFK assassination.  They are not normal photos like other sane people in Texas would take.  Of course no one would ever have any cause to see them had Oswald not committed a high-profile crime.  He would just be another anonymous oddball in the world (of which there are many) but I'm not sure what relevance that has in this context. 

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #497 on: November 26, 2021, 09:17:55 PM »
I'm not exactly sure what other context something could ever be deemed incriminating unless someone is accused of a crime.  The BY photos are incriminating in the context of the JFK assassination.  They are not normal photos like other sane people in Texas would take. Of course no one would ever have any cause to see them had Oswald not committed a high-profile crime.  He would just be another anonymous oddball in the world (of which there are many) but I'm not sure what relevance that has in this context.

Taking pictures with rifles is "normal" in Texas. No one would think the photos are strange or incriminating if he wasn't accused of shooting the President. There are also photos of Oswald posing with a shotgun in Russia by the way.

Oswald was never diagnosed with any sort of mental illness. Dismissing everything he did as an example of "insanity" is just intellectual laziness on your part.

He did it for a reason. Just admit that you don't know why he did it. Almost no one knows why...

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #498 on: November 26, 2021, 11:44:04 PM »
Taking pictures with rifles is "normal" in Texas. No one would think the photos are strange or incriminating if he wasn't accused of shooting the President. There are also photos of Oswald posing with a shotgun in Russia by the way.

Oswald was never diagnosed with any sort of mental illness. Dismissing everything he did as an example of "insanity" is just intellectual laziness on your part.

He did it for a reason. Just admit that you don't know why he did it. Almost no one knows why...

You keep suggesting it is somehow "normal" for Oswald to have pictures taken of himself holding weapons and displaying Commie literature.  There is nothing normal about that.  It is downright bizarre.  In the 1960s, it would have been even more atypical.  I thought even CTers agreed with that obvious conclusion since they often allege the photos were faked to incriminate Oswald as some type of kook.  But if this is "normal" can you show us other such examples of Texas citizens engaging in this behavior?  I'm not sure what you are asking me to admit.  Only Oswald knows why he posed for these pictures and assassinated JFK.  The rest of us can only speculate on that based upon what we do know about his nutty background.  The evidence confirms, however, that he did both.  If you are asking why he posed for such a bizarre picture, my guess is that he had some type of fantasy that he was going to be a kind of revolutionary hero.  And the BY pictures were meant to document that for history.  Which, in a way, they have done but in a different way than he anticipated.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #499 on: November 27, 2021, 12:15:19 AM »
You keep suggesting it is somehow "normal" for Oswald to have pictures taken of himself holding weapons and displaying Commie literature.  There is nothing normal about that.  It is downright bizarre.  In the 1960s, it would have been even more atypical.  I thought even CTers agreed with that obvious conclusion since they often allege the photos were faked to incriminate Oswald as some type of kook.  But if this is "normal" can you show us other such examples of Texas citizens engaging in this behavior?  I'm not sure what you are asking me to admit.  Only Oswald knows why he posed for these pictures and assassinated JFK.  The rest of us can only speculate on that based upon what we do know about his nutty background.  The evidence confirms, however, that he did both.  If you are asking why he posed for such a bizarre picture, my guess is that he had some type of fantasy that he was going to be a kind of revolutionary hero.  And the BY pictures were meant to document that for history.  Which, in a way, they have done but in a different way than he anticipated.

You keep suggesting it is somehow "normal" for Oswald to have pictures taken of himself holding weapons and displaying Commie literature.  There is nothing normal about that.  It is downright bizarre.

Yes, it would be for a superficial person who does not know the actual reasons for those pictures being taken.

I'm not sure what you are asking me to admit.

Wow, now there's a surprise

Only Oswald knows why he posed for these pictures and assassinated JFK.  The rest of us can only speculate on that based upon what we do know about his nutty background.

What "nutty background" would that be? You know something we don't or are you just swallowing the stuff they are feeding you?

If you are asking why he posed for such a bizarre picture, my guess is that he had some type of fantasy that he was going to be a kind of revolutionary hero.  And the BY pictures were meant to document that for history.

Let's see if I understand this.... Oswald had these photos taken, months before he knew Kennedy was coming to Dallas and without knowing he would be in a position to take a shot to kill him, to be portrayed as a "revolutionary hero"?

It seems your imagination is running away with you.....

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #500 on: November 27, 2021, 03:09:06 AM »
You keep suggesting it is somehow "normal" for Oswald to have pictures taken of himself holding weapons and displaying Commie literature.  There is nothing normal about that.  It is downright bizarre.

Yes, it would be for a superficial person who does not know the actual reasons for those pictures being taken.

I'm not sure what you are asking me to admit.

Wow, now there's a surprise

Only Oswald knows why he posed for these pictures and assassinated JFK.  The rest of us can only speculate on that based upon what we do know about his nutty background.

What "nutty background" would that be? You know something we don't or are you just swallowing the stuff they are feeding you?

If you are asking why he posed for such a bizarre picture, my guess is that he had some type of fantasy that he was going to be a kind of revolutionary hero.  And the BY pictures were meant to document that for history.

Let's see if I understand this.... Oswald had these photos taken, months before he knew Kennedy was coming to Dallas and without knowing he would be in a position to take a shot to kill him, to be portrayed as a "revolutionary hero"?

It seems your imagination is running away with you.....

I'm sure that your daddy still loves you even if you are a closet CTer.

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #500 on: November 27, 2021, 03:09:06 AM »


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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #501 on: November 27, 2021, 05:38:26 AM »
You keep suggesting it is somehow "normal" for Oswald to have pictures taken of himself holding weapons and displaying Commie literature.  There is nothing normal about that.  It is downright bizarre. 

Neither the rifle or the Marxist publications in the photo are incriminating or crazy if Oswald never becomes a suspect in JFK's murder.

In the US of A where we love our guns, there's nothing weird or unusual about taking pictures with rifles. 

But if this is "normal" can you show us other such examples of Texas citizens engaging in this behavior?

You mean posing with guns or posing with Marxist publications? Obviously, there weren't many Marxists in Texas in 1963 so that part would be odd. But even if it's odd, that alone doesn't make it incriminating.

I have friends who live in the south and like guns. Gun culture isn't taboo there like in the northern States.

I've seen lots of pictures of people posing with their guns or rifles. Again, something like that only becomes incriminating if the person commits of violent crime.

I'm not sure what you are asking me to admit.

Admit that you don't have all the answers for a change.

We don't know why Oswald did it but there's no reason to assume based on no evidence, that he was mentally unstable at the time when the photos were taken.



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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #502 on: November 27, 2021, 12:54:29 PM »
I'm sure that your daddy still loves you even if you are a closet CTer.

I'm sure he would, if he had not passed away recently, you freak!

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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #503 on: November 28, 2021, 03:18:25 AM »
You keep suggesting it is somehow "normal" for Oswald to have pictures taken of himself holding weapons and displaying Commie literature.  There is nothing normal about that.  It is downright bizarre.

Yes, it would be for a superficial person who does not know the actual reasons for those pictures being taken.

I'm not sure what you are asking me to admit.

Wow, now there's a surprise

Only Oswald knows why he posed for these pictures and assassinated JFK.  The rest of us can only speculate on that based upon what we do know about his nutty background.

What "nutty background" would that be? You know something we don't or are you just swallowing the stuff they are feeding you?

If you are asking why he posed for such a bizarre picture, my guess is that he had some type of fantasy that he was going to be a kind of revolutionary hero.  And the BY pictures were meant to document that for history.

Let's see if I understand this.... Oswald had these photos taken, months before he knew Kennedy was coming to Dallas and without knowing he would be in a position to take a shot to kill him, to be portrayed as a "revolutionary hero"?

It seems your imagination is running away with you.....

You are getting increasingly hysterical.  What "nutty" background did Oswald have?  Are you for real?  You mean the guy who defected to the USSR?  HA HA HA.  When these photos were taken Oswald was contemplating killing Gen. Walker and defecting to Cuba.  No one said it had anything to do with assassinating JFK.  More strawman nonsense.  This is real simple.  Even for you.  Forget about me and try to focus on the subject matter.  I know that is difficult for you.  Ready?  Do the BY pictures depict a "normal" pose for someone in Texas during the 1960s or not?   A man dressed in all black including a polo type shirt holding his rifle and displaying Commie literature.  Do you find that to be "normal" behaviour or not?  Don't get sidetracked.
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Re: JFK Revisited: Were the Oswald Backyard Photographs Faked?
« Reply #503 on: November 28, 2021, 03:18:25 AM »