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Offline Mitch Todd

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Re: JFK Revisited
« Reply #840 on: January 15, 2022, 01:17:09 AM »
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When did "Knudsen tell the HSCA that he did not take photographs"?  Exact quote please.
Right here:

Mr. PURDY - When did you first become aware of the existence of photographs of the autopsy of President Kennedy?
Mr. KNUDSEN - The morning following the autopsy, Dr. Berkley -- to the best of my knowledge, Dr. Berkley had the film holders in a brown paper bag and handed them to me. Jim Fox, the Secret Service expert, was told to go over and develop them and see that they were secure at all times.

Mr. PURDY - Did you ever have knowledge of, or were you ever told about, autopsy x-rays, for example?
Mr. KNUDSEN - No. I do not know that any were ever taken.

If Knudsen did know about the photos until the next morning, then he didn't take them. Not knowing if x-rays were taken is another, if a bit more subtle, giveaway.



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Re: JFK Revisited
« Reply #840 on: January 15, 2022, 01:17:09 AM »


Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: JFK Revisited
« Reply #841 on: January 15, 2022, 01:27:58 AM »
I see they still haven't made available the full transcripts of their phone and sit-down interviews with Odum. So much uncertainty arose from the phone interview, Aguilar and Thompson visited Odum in Dallas. Wonder what transpired. Odum as much as conceded he simply forgot about the Parkland visit (CE399 wasn't famous until after the Report came out) if a 302 report could be found. But 302s were not always issued if information was to be collated in a covering report, such as CE 2011.

It could be CE 2011 got wrong the name of the agent who went to Parkland. In a footnote in his 1967 book, Thompson thought Wright might have been mistaken about the bullet being pointed.

Raymond Marcus interviewed by phone Darryl Tomlinson on July 25, 1966:

     Marcus: Did anybody show you the bullet after the time you
          found it, and after the time you gave it to Mr. Wright?

     Tomlinson: I seen it one time after that. I believe Mr. Shanklin
          from the FBI had it out there at the hospital in personnel
          with Mr. Wright there when they called me in.

     Marcus: When Shanklin and Mr. Wright called you in at that
          time, did they show you the bullet?

     Tomlinson: Yes.

     Marcus: Did they ask you if it looked like the same one?

     Tomlinson: Yes, I believe they did.

     Marcus: And as far as you could tell--- of course, you weren't making a
          making a ballistics test of it--- but as far as you could tell, did it look
          like the same one to you?

     Tomlinson Yes, it appeared to be the same one.

It could be CE 2011 got wrong the name of the agent who went to Parkland.

No, that could not be. Tomlinson told Marcus that he was only shown the bullet once.

In his WC testimony, he said;

Mr. SPECTER. How many times did the FBI interview you?
Mr. TOMLINSON. Once.
Mr. SPECTER. How many times did the Secret Service interview you?
Mr. TOMLINSON. Once.
Mr. SPECTER. When did the FBI interview you?
Mr. TOMLINSON. I believe they were the first to do it.
Mr. SPECTER. Approximately when was that?
Mr. TOMLINSON. I think that was the latter part of November.

Odum never showed CE399 to Tomlinson or Wright. Shanklin did and he most likely noticed that the bullet he was sent in June 1964 wasn't the same one he had shown to Tomlinson and Wright in November 1963, which is why he wrote in the Airtel (on which that section of CE2011 is based) that both men couldn't identify the bullet Odum allegedly had shown them.

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Was Kerry Thornley a Spook?
« Reply #842 on: January 15, 2022, 02:46:23 PM »
Was Kerry Thornley a Spook?
A leading conspiracy theorist wrote that Kerry Thornley must have had intelligence connections because he met a Garrison investigator at NASA. But did this really happen?

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/was-kerry-thornley-a-spook

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Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: Oliver Stone Pulls the Wool over Joe Rogan's Eyes...
« Reply #843 on: January 15, 2022, 03:37:30 PM »
You mean what YOU think is dependent on me?

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Offline Mike Orr

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Re: JFK Revisited
« Reply #844 on: January 15, 2022, 03:45:04 PM »
Oliver Stone made it possible for this forum to get to where it is today . For those who can't grasp what happened that day in Dallas with the murder of JFK then they won't ever believe what happened , no matter what ! That's ok because there is no doubt that there was a conspiracy to remove JFK !

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Re: Oliver Stone Pulls the Wool over Joe Rogan's Eyes...
« Reply #845 on: January 15, 2022, 08:30:01 PM »
No, what I mean is that what you think is dependent on whether allegations without evidence support your narrative or not.

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Re: JFK Revisited
« Reply #846 on: January 15, 2022, 08:31:55 PM »
Right here:

Mr. PURDY - When did you first become aware of the existence of photographs of the autopsy of President Kennedy?
Mr. KNUDSEN - The morning following the autopsy, Dr. Berkley -- to the best of my knowledge, Dr. Berkley had the film holders in a brown paper bag and handed them to me. Jim Fox, the Secret Service expert, was told to go over and develop them and see that they were secure at all times.

Mr. PURDY - Did you ever have knowledge of, or were you ever told about, autopsy x-rays, for example?
Mr. KNUDSEN - No. I do not know that any were ever taken.

If Knudsen did know about the photos until the next morning, then he didn't take them. Not knowing if x-rays were taken is another, if a bit more subtle, giveaway.

So, Knudsen didn't actually "tell the HSCA that he did not take photographs".

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Garrison Claimed the CIA was also behind the RFK and MLK Assassinations
« Reply #847 on: January 16, 2022, 06:39:42 PM »
Garrison Claimed the CIA was also Behind the RFK and MLK Assassinations
In an interview with Thomas Buchanan that would ultimately be printed in the National Enquirer, Jim Garrison claimed that the CIA was also behind the RFK and the MLK assassinations.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/garrison-claimed-the-cia-was-also-behind-the-rfk-and-mlk-assassinations

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Garrison Claimed the CIA was also behind the RFK and MLK Assassinations
« Reply #847 on: January 16, 2022, 06:39:42 PM »