On The Trail Of Delusion

[Fred Litwin]

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/josiah-thompson-on-jim-garrison

[Mark A. Oblazney]

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/josiah-thompson-on-jim-garrison

Well...... if you've lost Tink, you've lost....... what?

[Walt Cakebread]

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/josiah-thompson-on-jim-garrison

I believe that you and Tink, are totally wrong.....and Garrison was right.   It's true that Garrison's effort to bring justice to the case was sabotaged and that allowed his critics some ground to discredit him.   

I don't whole heartedly endorse all of  Jim Garrison's theories but he was totally correct in advocating that a conspiracy was behind the coup d e'tat. ....And the plot originated in New Orleans.....   

[Jerry Freeman]

You cannot convict someone of guilt by association. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were convicted of the Okla City Fed Bldg bombings. The FBI and who knows who were after anyone that even looked like them...
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing_conspiracy_theories
 Garrison was also wrong in his thinking that a cabal of perverts plotted to assassinate JFK.
He also believed that LHO was involved... and I still can't see how.

[Walt Cakebread]

You cannot convict someone of guilt by association. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were convicted of the Okla City Fed Bldg bombings. The FBI and who knows who were after anyone that even looked like them...
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing_conspiracy_theories
 Garrison was also wrong in his thinking that a cabal of perverts plotted to assassinate JFK.
He also believed that LHO was involved... and I still can't see how.

LHO was involved?   Absolutely.... He was the patsy....

[Jerry Freeman]

You cannot convict someone of guilt by association. 

I should have acknowledged that it has been done often and that it is an unfortunate form of justice.
Many innocents were even hung because their prosecution was just slammed through without a proper defense.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

LHO was involved?   Absolutely.... He was the patsy....

That's not what Garrison alleged in the Clay Shaw trial which is what the topic is about, i.e., Garrison's behavior in the Shaw matter and his repeated abuses of the law in the investigation he conducted. He smeared and ruined numerous people's lives. Based on little more than his own, sometimes sordid, fantasies; although he probably believed most of them.

Garrison said that Oswald conspired with Shaw and Ferrie and others (unnamed) to shoot the president. And that Oswald was the one who brought the murder weapon - or one of them - to the TSBD. Garrison said explicitly that Oswald was a willing and active conspirator in the murder of JFK and not a patsy.

This is from his opening statement to the jury in the trial:

"The defendant, CLAY L, SHAW, is charged in a bill of indictment with having willfully and unlawfully conspired with DAVID W, FERRIE, LEE HARVEY OSWALD and others to murder JOHN F. KENNEDY."

Again, Oswald was one of the conspirators in the murder of JFK. Not a patsy.

This conspiracy involved: "Discussion by OSWALD, FERRIE and the defendant, SHAW of means and methods of execution of the conspiracy with regard to assassination of JOHN F. KENNEDY -- particularly, the selection and use of rifles to be fired from multiple directions simultaneously to produce a triangulation of crossfire, establishing and selecting the means and routes of escape from the assassination scene, determination of procedures and the places to be used for some of the principals to the conspiracy so as to establish alibis on the date of the assassination."

And the conspiracy also included: "LEE HARVEY OSWALD taking a rifle to the Texas Book Depository in Dallas, Texas on or before November 22, 1963."

So Oswald discussed and planned out the murder of JFK. And brought a rifle to be used as part of that act. If Garrison was right then your theory as to what happened is 100% wrong.

Garrison's full opening statement is here: https://jfk-online.com/state.html

[Walt Cakebread]

That's not what Garrison alleged in the Clay Shaw trial which is what the topic is about, i.e., Garrison's behavior in the Shaw matter and his repeated abuses of the law in the investigation he conducted. He smeared and ruined numerous people's lives. Based on little more than his own, sometimes sordid, fantasies; although he probably believed most of them.

Garrison said that Oswald conspired with Shaw and Ferrie and others (unnamed) to shoot the president. And that Oswald was the one who brought the murder weapon - or one of them - to the TSBD. Garrison said explicitly that Oswald was a willing and active conspirator in the murder of JFK and not a patsy.

This is from his opening statement to the jury in the trial:

"The defendant, CLAY L, SHAW, is charged in a bill of indictment with having willfully and unlawfully conspired with DAVID W, FERRIE, LEE HARVEY OSWALD and others to murder JOHN F. KENNEDY."

Again, Oswald was one of the conspirators in the murder of JFK. Not a patsy.

This conspiracy involved: "Discussion by OSWALD, FERRIE and the defendant, SHAW of means and methods of execution of the conspiracy with regard to assassination of JOHN F. KENNEDY -- particularly, the selection and use of rifles to be fired from multiple directions simultaneously to produce a triangulation of crossfire, establishing and selecting the means and routes of escape from the assassination scene, determination of procedures and the places to be used for some of the principals to the conspiracy so as to establish alibis on the date of the assassination."

And the conspiracy also included: "LEE HARVEY OSWALD taking a rifle to the Texas Book Depository in Dallas, Texas on or before November 22, 1963."

So Oswald discussed and planned out the murder of JFK. And brought a rifle to be used as part of that act. If Garrison was right then your theory as to what happened is 100% wrong.

Garrison's full opening statement is here: https://jfk-online.com/state.html

I was unaware that Garrison believed that Lee Oswald was guilty of conspiring to murder JFK.  Thank you, for the information.

Garrison was dead wrong about some aspects of the conspiracy......  But his basic premise that JFK was murdered by a conspiracy is 100% correct.