On The Trail Of Delusion

[Jon Banks]

Oliver Stone made one of the best political thrillers ever.

Yes, it was over-dramatized. Even Stone admits that.

But it’s a fictional drama. Let it go…

[Fred Litwin]

Why not let it got?

Because Stone made a ridiculous documentary, JFK Revisited, in which he once again victimizes Clay Shaw.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/oliver-stone-with-jfk-revisited-crucifies-clay-shaw-once-again

fred

[Jon Banks]

Why not let it got?

Because Stone made a ridiculous documentary, JFK Revisited, in which he once again victimizes Clay Shaw.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/oliver-stone-with-jfk-revisited-crucifies-clay-shaw-once-again

fred

JFK Revisited spent no more than 2 minutes on Garrison and Shaw. Nothing inaccurate was said. If anything, your argument is that they should've spent more time discussing the Shaw trial.

I haven't seen the 4 hour version of JFK Revisited yet. Maybe the longer version spends more time on Garrison and Shaw.

But the 2 hour version probably isn't what either you or I expected when it was announced that Stone was making a documentary based on DiEugenio's 'Destiny Betrayed' book. Instead of defending Jim Garrison's investigation, as DiEugenio's book does, JFK Revisited only briefly mentions Garrison's investigation then moves on to other topics.

[Fred Litwin]

It's not the length of time.

It's also the hypocrisy. The film makes a big deal out of the fact that Oswald did not have trial. It then mentions that Shaw was indicted for conspiracy to kill JFK. It does not even mention that he was tried and found not guilty. That is the height of hypocrisy.

There is no need to bring Clay Shaw into the JFK assassination. He had nothing to do with it.

fred

[Jon Banks]

It's not the length of time.

It's also the hypocrisy. The film makes a big deal out of the fact that Oswald did not have trial. It then mentions that Shaw was indicted for conspiracy to kill JFK. It does not even mention that he was tried and found not guilty. That is the height of hypocrisy.

There is no need to bring Clay Shaw into the JFK assassination. He had nothing to do with it.

fred

I don’t think the film suggests or implies that Shaw was part of the plot to kill JFK or set up Oswald…

[Fred Litwin]

Of course it does.

fred

[Fred Litwin]

"Coup in Dallas" - The Story of a Factoid
This nonsense conspiracy book repeats a factoid about Ferenc Nagy, who served as President of Permindex for a short period. The factoid - that Nagy lived in Dallas at the time of the assassination - derives from the Paese Sera (a communist-controlled newspaper in Rome) series on Clay Shaw after his arrest in March 1967. Here is the evolution of the factoid.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/coup-in-dallas-the-story-of-a-factoid

[W. Tracy Parnell]

"Coup in Dallas" - The Story of a Factoid
This nonsense conspiracy book repeats a factoid about Ferenc Nagy, who served as President of Permindex for a short period. The factoid - that Nagy lived in Dallas at the time of the assassination - derives from the Paese Sera (a communist-controlled newspaper in Rome) series on Clay Shaw after his arrest in March 1967. Here is the evolution of the factoid.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/coup-in-dallas-the-story-of-a-factoid

I followed the EF thread on this book for a while until I lost interest. Even there, it did not fare that well.