The Book Depository as a Potemkin Village

[Zeon Mason]

If the conspirators went to all this trouble to partially frame Oswald, with intent that he would be arrested and possibly have a jury trial, be exonerated or found guilty, Oswald would escape from prison , flee to Cuba where Castro would be convinced Oswald is a true Communist ?

It’s doubtful imo, that Castro would that gullible to accept a fleeing murderer convicted of assassination of a US president

Therefore the other alternative of exoneration by jury after a lengthy public trial and an exhibition of a “mountain of evidence” , then Oswald announcing he is “defecting” to Cuba, Would be a more probable outcome of Castro accepting Oswald into Cuba as a legitimate defector and less suspicion of Oswald as a CIA spy

[Bill Chapman]

the MC is a pre planted rifle not fired nor displayed. Purpose not exactly known, although speculation has been offered that It was a means to implicate Oswald,

Speculation.... Lee Oswald thought he was playing the same role he had played at General Walker's house on the night of April 10, 1963. He had fired a bullet through Walker's window which was intended to make it appear that Lee had tried to kill Walker who was a bitter foe of Fidel Castro ..... Thus Lee thought that Castro would welcome Lee in Cuba because Lee was a fugitive who was wanted for attempted murder in the U.S.   That scheme failed to blossom because Marina did not call the police when she found the alarming note that lee had left for her to find.....and the police ( who smelled a publicity stunt )  didn't use police dogs and find the carcano which Lee left hidden beneath a pile of brush near Walker's house.

Lee thought he was playing the same basic scheme when the carcano was hidden on the sixth floor ......

Can't wait for your press conference and the ensuing laughter.

[Walt Cakebread]

If the conspirators went to all this trouble to partially frame Oswald, with intent that he would be arrested and possibly have a jury trial, be exonerated or found guilty, Oswald would escape from prison , flee to Cuba where Castro would be convinced Oswald is a true Communist ?

It’s doubtful imo, that Castro would that gullible to accept a fleeing murderer convicted of assassination of a US president

Therefore the other alternative of exoneration by jury after a lengthy public trial and an exhibition of a “mountain of evidence” , then Oswald announcing he is “defecting” to Cuba, Would be a more probable outcome of Castro accepting Oswald into Cuba as a legitimate defector and less suspicion of Oswald as a CIA spy

It’s doubtful imo, that Castro would that gullible to accept a fleeing murderer convicted of assassination of a US president

I believe that's sound reasoning....   But the scheme was originally created for the "attempt" to shoot General Walker.

There's a big difference between an attempt to shoot a person, and the act of murder.   Lee Never intended to shoot Walker ....That should be obvious by the fact that he fired only one shot....when he would have ample opportunity to fire a few more shots to ensure that he had hit his victim.  Walker himself said that he simply sat there for a while before he got up from his desk and went and looked out of the window.

Lee was totally unaware that he was being set up..... He thought it would appear as though he had taken a shot at JFK ( just as many suckers believe that he actually shot AT general Walker.   

[Zeon Mason]

If General Walker is in on the scheme, it’s doubtful imo that Walker would have given testimony that
 The projectile remnant (supposedly fired at him from an MC rifle), in his opinion ,  did NOT resemble an MC bullet.

 I suspect more a collaboration among the various CIA “assets” of which George DeM was one, and Ruth and Michele Paine possibly 2 more, all tasked with 1st mission of interception of the incoming returning “defector” Oswald and the newly wed mystery Russian aka “Soviet spy?” Marina.

This could be a very tangled web of spy vs spy considering Norman Mailers research indicating Marina may have been a KGB “asset” with mission to intercept all incoming so called American defectors of which Oswald was but 1 of approx 8 others.

This gives some credence to the theory Oswald was in fact part of a CIA defector scam to attempt to infiltrate USSR and that on  his return to USA, Oswald was soon met by a millionaire  George DeMohrenschildt , which surely more than just coincidence .

[Walt Cakebread]

If General Walker is in on the scheme, it’s doubtful imo that Walker would have given testimony that
 The projectile remnant (supposedly fired at him from an MC rifle), in his opinion ,  did NOT resemble an MC bullet.

 I suspect more a collaboration among the various CIA “assets” of which George DeM was one, and Ruth and Michele Paine possibly 2 more, all tasked with 1st mission of interception of the incoming returning “defector” Oswald and the newly wed mystery Russian aka “Soviet spy?” Marina.

This could be a very tangled web of spy vs spy considering Norman Mailers research indicating Marina may have been a KGB “asset” with mission to intercept all incoming so called American defectors of which Oswald was but 1 of approx 8 others.

This gives some credence to the theory Oswald was in fact part of a CIA defector scam to attempt to infiltrate USSR and that on  his return to USA, Oswald was soon met by a millionaire  George DeMohrenschildt , which surely more than just coincidence .

If General Walker is in on the scheme, it’s doubtful imo that Walker would have given testimony that
 The projectile remnant (supposedly fired at him from an MC rifle), in his opinion ,  did NOT resemble an MC bullet.

I have no idea WHY  Walker said the bullet that was displayed to him did not look like the bullet that he CLAIMED to have seen at his house on the night of April 10, 1963.     Personally.... I doubt that Walker saw the bullet that the police found on that night....

Perhaps some folks believe Walker.... but anybody with any knowledge of liars should be able to discern that Walker's testimony is a mish mash of lies stacked on lies.

[Zeon Mason]

I have to question if Castro would ever have allowed Oswald to defect to Cuba , given the probability that the KGB suspected Oswald as just one more of several so called defectors from USA, hence a suspected CIA spy.

Surely the Kremlin would have kept their puppet Communist Castro informed of potential CIA spy and or potential assassin ?

[Steve M. Galbraith]

I have to question if Castro would ever have allowed Oswald to defect to Cuba , given the probability that the KGB suspected Oswald as just one more of several so called defectors from USA, hence a suspected CIA spy.

Surely the Kremlin would have kept their puppet Communist Castro informed of potential CIA spy and or potential assassin ?

If you read the KGB documents that Yeltsin gave to Clinton, the Nosenko testimony, and Norman Mailer's book on Oswald ("Oswald's Tale") you can see that the KGB did suspect Oswald was some sort of intelligence operative when he first arrived. But they said (to Mailer) they suspected every American of being a threat since that's what they were trained to believe. And that's why, in part, they sent Oswald to an isolated area (Minsk in Belarussia) to monitor 24/7. They were also afraid that some sort of international incident might happen particularly since Oswald tried to kill himself (apparently) before. The very day Oswald defected Khrushchev was in Washington meeting with Ike in an attempt to normalize relations between the two rivals.

Mailer (and his associates) interviewed over two dozen Belarus KGB agents ordered to monitor Oswald. After watching him closely they dismissed him as a nobody, as not having the aptitude or makeup to be an agent. In fact several were glad to let him return to the US. For more details read Nosenko's testimony or the documents that Yeltsin gave to Clinton. Read KGB agent Oleg Nechiporenko's book "Passport to Assassination." He interviewed Oswald when Oswald went to Mexico City and visited the Soviet Embassy. After the assassination Nechiporenko said he studied the KGB file on Oswald very closely and talked to other agents to determine who Oswald really was. He said their conclusion - and his -was that Oswald was a nobody and no threat to the USSR. So they let him go, he was too much of a nuisance.

If they thought he was a CIA spy they certainly wouldn't have let I doubt that they would have let him return to the US with whatever intelligence/information he had acquired. This was the post-Stalin era and Khrushchev was trying to open things up somewhat; but it was still a closed brutal state run by murderers (Khrushchev did Stalin's "dirty work" for him in the Ukraine).

[Walt Cakebread]

I have to question if Castro would ever have allowed Oswald to defect to Cuba , given the probability that the KGB suspected Oswald as just one more of several so called defectors from USA, hence a suspected CIA spy.

Surely the Kremlin would have kept their puppet Communist Castro informed of potential CIA spy and or potential assassin ?

I have to question if Castro would ever have allowed Oswald to defect to Cuba

That's irrelevant ....Lee Thought that he could convince the Cubans that he was a true supporter of the revolution, just as he had convinced the Russians that he was a disgruntled and disaffected American.