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Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Unseeing the Headshot
« Reply #64 on: December 31, 2020, 09:12:01 PM »
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Hi Allan,
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"Some suggested car momentarily halted, would make sense using an automatic pistol and having the SS jump off the back car and catch the front!  At 10 mph constant speed or car speeding up from that - impossible even if it was a big boat!"

What are you saying here?

Two shots in quick succession is not something expected from a bolt action carcano rifle firing at a moving object.   Two shots spaced half a second a part would be what I would consider quick succession. This is attainable by using an automatic weapon where bullets come out without having to re-aim after using one hand to eject a round.

Considering Jack Trojan Post #12:



Could the shot coming directly from the front and passing through the windshield have come from "pseudo Malcom Summers" placing the shot drawn as Jack  has shown but a few frames later?   At the very least, this man was a key witness.    Maybe the shot from the overpass came whizzing past his head?   If he didn't do it, he obviously saw or heard something to make him run back or back off and do a somersault.   Altgens unfazed at the same time was not scared and unreactive - a bullet flying past him evoked no response.   Remember, we have no other footage showing "Malcom Summers" position prior to his grass roll.  What was his position prior to pictures taken of him in other films?  Consider also that there is a possible reason for sunlight aberration across SS agent with head down in front seat which could be glass shards reflected in light.   (I am referring to Z322 and Z330).   One thing is sure, the car was whisked away without local examination and the windshield was admittedly changed.  Jacqueline has a small reaction action at Z325 when her gaze moved from chest to his neck and an even greater one at Z334 when there would have been a great noise from Z330!  Again my speculation on watching Jacqueline. 

Having the SS agent run up and right beside motorcycles was a great distraction at the scene. I am sure the motorcycle escorts were observing this closely to make sure they wouldn't run over him.  At Z339, you can see motorcycle slow down and watch the SS agent jump on the back.   These folks weren't watching the surrounding area for a shooter, everyone was focused on him ju,ping on and Jacqueline trying to leave the car. 

Consider, umbrella man and "Cuban" frantically waving hands in the air seconds before when first shot came in.   "Hey look over here everybody!  Pay attention to us. Watch the birdy!"  Meanwhile something else takes place and distraction rules the day.   Who else was hidden behind the sign that we don't see on that first shot?  To me, if there was a coordinated effort, the very first shot comes from the other side of road - only Zapruder film shows those unknown characters in perfect position with perfect distraction!
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Re: Unseeing the Headshot
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Re: Unseeing the Headshot
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2021, 02:26:52 AM »

Are you a newbie? Dr. Cyril H. Wecht has contended for decades that a frangible bullet exploded in JFK's head.


Where in the video you posted does Wecht say the bullet exploded in JFK's head?

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How can the magic bullet smash thru 3 bones and cause 7 wounds with no blow outs and show up pristine on the wrong stretcher with no DNA on it and the headshot bullet causes 3 massive blowouts and disintegrates in JFK's head? What kind of ballistics accounts for that without an explosion being involved? You should be able to answer with some simple physics.

What has the magic bullet got to do with the headshot?
3 massive blowouts? What are you talking about?

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How could you possibly know that the Z film has not been altered? Because it has. The FBI returned a COPY of the Z film to Zapruder, which had sections spliced out, which Zapruder could not account for. The FBI claims someone damaged the film and spliced it back together. Sure.

"Because it has"

Well that's that settled

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If this was a conspiracy, then the FBI scrubbed the film for any evidence that countered the LN narrative. That would include anything that happened as the limo rounded the turn onto Elm St. and nearly stopped directly in front of the TSBD to avoid curbing out. Why didn't Oswald take the shot then? JFK was stopped only 60 feet in front of him. Why did he wait so long before taking the 1st shot? At any rate, the FBI felt the need to remove that section of the film before making a copy of it.

Wouldn't you say JFK's back and to the left movement has been the biggest source for people thinking it was a conspiracy?
That's not been scrubbed out of the Z-film.
Why not just destroy the film and tell anyone who saw it to keep it shut?
Why bother altering it?



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Re: Unseeing the Headshot
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2021, 02:53:08 AM »
Where in the video you posted does Wecht say the bullet exploded in JFK's head?

What has the magic bullet got to do with the headshot?
3 massive blowouts? What are you talking about?

"Because it has"

Well that's that settled

Wouldn't you say JFK's back and to the left movement has been the biggest source for people thinking it was a conspiracy?
That's not been scrubbed out of the Z-film.
Why not just destroy the film and tell anyone who saw it to keep it shut?
Why bother altering it?

As Jack pointed, they used the Zapruder Film to anchor the LNer theory.  They used particular pictures (not entire film) in the WC to bolster their position.  The film was held in secrecy for many years and not allowed to be viewed.  To further prop the position taken, their own operative LHO had to die before he could issue any contrary statements to their narrative as well.   Being a patsy, does not mean you weren't involved.   It just means you didn't see the outcome and the role you played!


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« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2021, 03:25:46 PM »
As Jack pointed, they used the Zapruder Film to anchor the LNer theory.  They used particular pictures (not entire film) in the WC to bolster their position.  The film was held in secrecy for many years and not allowed to be viewed.  To further prop the position taken, their own operative LHO had to die before he could issue any contrary statements to their narrative as well.   Being a patsy, does not mean you weren't involved.   It just means you didn't see the outcome and the role you played!

"They" didn't need the Z-film to support the 'Lone Assassin' model
There is nothing about the Z-film that supports the idea of shots from the TSBD
Not one thing.
The only thing the Z-film does is cast doubt on the idea of a 'Lone Assassin' and "they" knew that.
The Z-film did not need to be altered, it needed to be destroyed.
Why keep something that questions the 'Lone Assassin' model?
If "they" are so all-powerful why not simply destroy the Z-film and tell anyone who saw it to keep shut.
The Z-film is not required to support the "Lone Assassin" model.
Why bother altering it if the alterations could be discovered? Why take that chance?

The bottom line is that the Z-film has not been altered and "they" are not as all-powerful as the tinfoil brigade believes.

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« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2021, 08:21:29 PM »
"They" didn't need the Z-film to support the 'Lone Assassin' model
There is nothing about the Z-film that supports the idea of shots from the TSBD
Not one thing.
The only thing the Z-film does is cast doubt on the idea of a 'Lone Assassin' and "they" knew that.
The Z-film did not need to be altered, it needed to be destroyed.
Why keep something that questions the 'Lone Assassin' model?
If "they" are so all-powerful why not simply destroy the Z-film and tell anyone who saw it to keep shut.
The Z-film is not required to support the "Lone Assassin" model.
Why bother altering it if the alterations could be discovered? Why take that chance?

The bottom line is that the Z-film has not been altered and "they" are not as all-powerful as the tinfoil brigade believes.

How many times have you seen it quoted that his head moved forward at Z313 because of the impulse momentum of the shot that was fired from the TSBD?  The blowout on that frame shows the explosion at the front - pretty good secondary evidence to use to build their case with.

If you don't think there was alteration, just look at my slow motion gif of the lightbox frames.  Where is the head?  I would like someone to draw it on the frames to show where it is.    No head present, means you can't have an autopsy photo shown with no damage at the front.     The head has mass and unfortunately the mass can't be found unless it is somewhere else. 

If someone had really good copies of the frames, I would like to look at them to prove or disprove what I am saying.  Send them to me and I would be happy to prove or disprove what I stated.  I have only  (Lightbox (125 KB) and Costella (270 KB)to work with and Jerry Organ's Lightbox Frames show the pictures/pixellation do show damage and signs of alterations where I think the head was. 

In my mind, there is definitely cut line through his head at Z337 that everyone just ignores!  It was a perfect slice past her head - but not well blended across his.  I would really love a higher definition photo to disprove my theory.  See my pictures posted below.  Z312 has a good match to LHS of Z337 -notice pixel variation by her lips.  It appears to be air brushing on her face where it fits over - extreme close fit of Z312 including collar!   The other side of the cut line, i believe shows blood on it, bottom region.  Again, air brushing appears to mask the upper region.  No idea where that frame portion came from - could be a missing frame?  I have used a cutout from Z327 which matches shape for this where I believe pixellation/air brushing took place and have superimposed its shape by rotation - shape matches beautifully.





And of course, Z333 with Jacqueline's hair - maybe lint - all unbelievably modified!



I agree that the Zapruder Film has too many flaws and that the fatal shot does not even coincide with Moorman's polaroid.     She snapped that polaroid at Z319 by my estimation - 6 frames after the Zapruder Z313 frame!   All claims say it was taken before Z313.  I can't see it - prove me wrong!   I started a thread for it.
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« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2021, 08:40:38 PM »
How many times have you seen it quoted that his head moved forward at Z313 because of the impulse momentum of the shot that was fired from the TSBD?  The blowout on that frame shows the explosion at the front - pretty good secondary evidence to use to build their case with.

And how many times have you heard conspiracy theorists say the "back and to the left" movement of JFK's head and body is clear evidence of a shot from the front.
As soon as the Z-film became public the "back and to the left" motion was jumped on by many as proof of conspiracy. If there was a shot from the front then there was more than one shooter. If there was more than one shooter there was a conspiracy.
I'm sure that anyone who sees the Z-film for the first time must be struck by JFK's movement after the headshot - "back and to the left".
This motion is. by far, the thing that indicates conspiracy so I ask you -

What is the point of altering anything in the Z-film if you leave in the most significant indicator of conspiracy?

Why not just destroy a film that contains such a clear indication of conspiracy?

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« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2021, 09:06:36 PM »
And how many times have you heard conspiracy theorists say the "back and to the left" movement of JFK's head and body is clear evidence of a shot from the front.
As soon as the Z-film became public the "back and to the left" motion was jumped on by many as proof of conspiracy. If there was a shot from the front then there was more than one shooter. If there was more than one shooter there was a conspiracy.
I'm sure that anyone who sees the Z-film for the first time must be struck by JFK's movement after the headshot - "back and to the left".
This motion is. by far, the thing that indicates conspiracy so I ask you -

What is the point of altering anything in the Z-film if you leave in the most significant indicator of conspiracy?

Why not just destroy a film that contains such a clear indication of conspiracy?

Answer that.  What is the most significant indicator of conspiracy in your eyes? 

For me, if you really had a LNer, there is no point having him or letting him be killed.  (Nightclub owner Jack Ruby was a real patriot.)  LHO was guilty as charged unless he had a story to tell which we never got to hear.    He couldn't defend myself and so one less loose end.   Holding the film in secrecy for years benefits nobody except the perpetrators.    If you can prove film modification (in the case of Zapruder's),  it was done as a coup - evidence wasn't there to convict LHO as a LNer otherwise!   This modification was a very serious undertaking and took Hollywood experts.   JFK didn't belong in the Whitehouse and neither does/did Trump.   Not easy to prove 57 years later as evidence has been shredded.  They should have made this film just disappear after 10 years - very ironic that JFK's blood can still cry out for justice.

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« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2021, 09:38:02 PM »
Answer that.  What is the most significant indicator of conspiracy in your eyes? 

For me, if you really had a LNer, there is no point having him or letting him be killed.  (Nightclub owner Jack Ruby was a real patriot.)  LHO was guilty as charged unless he had a story to tell which we never got to hear.    He couldn't defend myself and so one less loose end.   Holding the film in secrecy for years benefits nobody except the perpetrators.    If you can prove film modification (in the case of Zapruder's),  it was done as a coup - evidence wasn't there to convict LHO as a LNer otherwise!   This modification was a very serious undertaking and took Hollywood experts.   JFK didn't belong in the Whitehouse and neither does/did Trump.   Not easy to prove 57 years later as evidence has been shredded.  They should have made this film just disappear after 10 years - very ironic that JFK's blood can still cry out for justice.

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Answer that.  What is the most significant indicator of conspiracy in your eyes?

I've already answered that Allan.
That was the point of my post.

IN THE Z-FILM, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT INDICATOR OF CONSPIRACY IS JFK'S "BACK AND TO THE LEFT" MOTION.

My question is this - if you can't alter the most significant indicator of conspiracy in the Z-film (the "back and to the left" motion of JFK after the headshot), then what is the point of altering anything else in the Z-film?

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