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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #280 on: December 04, 2020, 02:16:07 AM »
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Actually, the quote you responded to (in that post) was Martin’s response to the Myers quote. Therefore, I thought that was what was being discussed. But logic never works when Martin is involved.....

My head hurts..

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #281 on: December 04, 2020, 02:25:08 AM »
My head hurts..

It took me a couple of double takes to figure it out and make sure that I understood what happened. Nothing important enough to worry about. Carry on... :)

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« Reply #282 on: December 04, 2020, 02:44:01 PM »
How often in your life did you run to a place where you had no apparent business being, where nothing was happening, where there was nowhere to go and where there was nobody you knew to meet?

Exactly. Sounds more like a person running away from something.
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #283 on: December 04, 2020, 02:49:38 PM »
Exactly. Sounds more like a person running away from something.

Really? But if that was the case, why not simply hop on a bus out of town, either from the city center or, after his stop at the boarding house, down on Jefferson?

Why run to a go nowhere street in the middle of a residential area where he would stand out like a sore tumb?

It doesn't make sense...

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« Reply #284 on: December 04, 2020, 03:12:48 PM »
Really? But if that was the case, why not simply hop on a bus out of town, either from the city center or, after his stop at the boarding house, down on Jefferson?

Why run to a go nowhere street in the middle of a residential area where he would stand out like a sore tumb?

It doesn't make sense...

It's clear that he had no plan beyond making an attempt on Kennedy.
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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #285 on: December 04, 2020, 03:24:35 PM »
Really? But if that was the case, why not simply hop on a bus out of town, either from the city center or, after his stop at the boarding house, down on Jefferson?

Why run to a go nowhere street in the middle of a residential area where he would stand out like a sore tumb?

It doesn't make sense...

Wait, I thought there was no reason for Tippit to question Oswald.  And Tippit was some type of hit man in the CTer fantasy land. But now Oswald stood out like a sore thumb for some reason.  Do tell.   Maybe Oswald would have got on a bus somewhere but for the good police work of Tippit.  There is no great plan to escape after shooting the president.  He was lucky to just get out of the building.  He is under enormous stress.   He is putting distance between himself and his boardinghouse to the best of his ability.  What would have happened but for his encounter with Tippit remains uncertain.  Did the Boston bomber intend to end up in a boat in someone's backyard?  Of course not.  Oswald was in flight with no good options.  He is making tracks. 

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« Reply #286 on: December 04, 2020, 03:44:00 PM »
Wait, I thought there was no reason for Tippit to question Oswald.  And Tippit was some type of hit man in the CTer fantasy land. But now Oswald stood out like a sore thumb for some reason.  Do tell.   Maybe Oswald would have got on a bus somewhere but for the good police work of Tippit.  There is no great plan to escape after shooting the president.  He was lucky to just get out of the building.  He is under enormous stress.   He is putting distance between himself and his boardinghouse to the best of his ability.  What would have happened but for his encounter with Tippit remains uncertain.  Did the Boston bomber intend to end up in a boat in someone's backyard?  Of course not.  Oswald was in flight with no good options.  He is making tracks.

Wait, I thought there was no reason for Tippit to question Oswald.  And Tippit was some type of hit man in the CTer fantasy land. But now Oswald stood out like a sore thumb for some reason.

You seem to be unable to differentiate between a factual and a hypothetical conversation. Bill Chapman argued that Oswald could have run to 10th street and thus followed a hypothetical conversation about a highly unlikely scenario. You don't normally run to a go nowhere street in the middle of a residential area with no particular place to go or person to meet.

Maybe Oswald would have got on a bus somewhere but for the good police work of Tippit.

On 10th street? Really... You've clearly never been there. If he wanted to get on a bus he simply could have gone down Beckley to Jefferson. Plenty of busses there.... No need or plausible reason to run to 10th street.

There is no great plan to escape after shooting the president.  He was lucky to just get out of the building.  He is under enormous stress.   He is putting distance between himself and his boardinghouse to the best of his ability.  What would have happened but for his encounter with Tippit remains uncertain.

Yeah that's what the WC narrative says. Doesn't make it true or even convincing though. If he was on the run, he wouldn't have offered his taxi to a woman and he most likely wouldn't even go to Beckley. Instead he just would have gotten on the first bus out of Dallas. A far more likely scenario.

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« Reply #287 on: December 04, 2020, 03:57:06 PM »
Wait, I thought there was no reason for Tippit to question Oswald.  And Tippit was some type of hit man in the CTer fantasy land. But now Oswald stood out like a sore thumb for some reason.

You seem to be unable to differentiate between a factual and a hypothetical conversation. Bill Chapman argued that Oswald could have run to 10th street and thus followed a hypothetical conversation about a highly unlikely scenario. You don't normally run to a go nowhere street in the middle of a residential area with no particular place to go or person to meet.

Maybe Oswald would have got on a bus somewhere but for the good police work of Tippit.

On 10th street? Really... You've clearly never been there. If he wanted to get on a bus he simply could have gone down Beckley to Jefferson. Plenty of busses there.... No need or plausible reason to run to 10th street.

There is no great plan to escape after shooting the president.  He was lucky to just get out of the building.  He is under enormous stress.   He is putting distance between himself and his boardinghouse to the best of his ability.  What would have happened but for his encounter with Tippit remains uncertain.

Yeah that's what the WC narrative says. Doesn't make it true or even convincing though. If he was on the run, he wouldn't have offered his taxi to a woman and he most likely wouldn't even go to Beckley. Instead he just would have gotten on the first bus out of Dallas. A far more likely scenario.

What you believe - often based on false information or questionable assumptions - that Oswald could have or should have done is completely meaningless to rebut the evidence of his guilt.  Even if we were to accept your false premise that you believe Oswald's escape not as well executed as possible, so what?  Criminals are caught all the time for doing stupid things.  Oswald was approached by Tippit just a short time after leaving his boardinghouse.  We have no idea what he would have done had this encounter not taken place.  All your speculation about what he should have done doesn't rebut multiple witnesses identify him as the Tippit shooter or the fact that he has the same two different brands of ammo in his possession when arrested that the shooter used to kill Tippit or that he resisted arrest and tried to kill another cop without even asking what the cop wanted.   It is a drumbeat of guilt.  Hard to imagine what more evidence there could even be absent a time machine.

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« Reply #287 on: December 04, 2020, 03:57:06 PM »