Not Your Steppin' Stone

[Joe Elliott]

Not Your Steppin' Stone
          Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, 1966
          Dr. Anthony Fauci, 2020

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-coronavirus-fauci-asks-americans-to-prepare-to-get-vaccinated-as-states-plan-for-distribution/ar-BB1bw4Yc?ocid=msedgdhp



As the US prepares for the first round of vaccinations to tackle Covid-19, infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci called on the public to "be part of the solution" and get vaccinated once it is available.

"Say, 'I'm not going to be one of the people that's going to be a steppingstone for the virus to go to somebody else. I'm going to be a dead end to the virus,'" Fauci told Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Monday.



When the vaccine is available for you, take it. Donald Trump didn’t listen to Dr. Fauci because he’s Donald Trump. What’s your excuse?


I know, this is off topic. But it is too important to post in the Off-Topic section.

[Richard Smith]

I'm having trouble deciphering the point of this rambling post.  It has been Trump who has been the strongest advocate of the vaccine.  He has correctly touted the vaccine as the ultimate solution to the pandemic while others - like Fauci - have falsely suggested that masks and social distancing were effective solutions.  They are clearly not as evidenced by the skyrocketing case numbers even in those states that have mandated masks and social distancing for months.  The only politicians who have cast doubt on taking the vaccine are dems like Kantala Harris and Cuomo.  Mostly suggesting it may be unsafe to advance their own political agendas.   If there was one thing that Trump was absolutely correct about, it was the vaccine.  It is Alice-in-Wonderland logic to suggest he is an impediment to anyone taking it.  And how about Fauci now advocating that kids go back to school?  Something Trump was vilified for suggesting months ago.   Fauci has played both sides against the middle.  He has support almost every position on every issue.  He is a publicity hound who has been wrong as often as he has been right.

[Martin Weidmann]

I'm having trouble deciphering the point of this rambling post.  It has been Trump who has been the strongest advocate of the vaccine.  He has correctly touted the vaccine as the ultimate solution to the pandemic while others - like Fauci - have falsely suggested that masks and social distancing were effective solutions.  They are clearly not as evidenced by the skyrocketing case numbers even in those states that have mandated masks and social distancing for months.  The only politicians who have cast doubt on taking the vaccine are dems like Kantala Harris and Cuomo.  Mostly suggesting it may be unsafe to advance their own political agendas.   If there was one thing that Trump was absolutely correct about, it was the vaccine.  It is Alice-in-Wonderland logic to suggest he is an impediment to anyone taking it.  And how about Fauci now advocating that kids go back to school?  Something Trump was vilified for suggesting months ago.   Fauci has played both sides against the middle.  He has support almost every position on every issue.  He is a publicity hound who has been wrong as often as he has been right.

It has been Trump who has been the strongest advocate of the vaccine.  He has correctly touted the vaccine as the ultimate solution to the pandemic while others - like Fauci - have falsely suggested that masks and social distancing were effective solutions.

BS. Anybody with a functional brain understands that a vaccine that works is the ultimate solution to the pandemic. All Fauci and others did was recommend wearing mask and social distancing as the next best thing absent a vaccine. Trust you to misrepresent the facts as per usual.

He is a publicity hound who has been wrong as often as he has been right.

You are now talking about Trump, right?

[Richard Smith]

It has been Trump who has been the strongest advocate of the vaccine.  He has correctly touted the vaccine as the ultimate solution to the pandemic while others - like Fauci - have falsely suggested that masks and social distancing were effective solutions.

BS. Anybody with a functional brain understands that a vaccine that works is the ultimate solution to the pandemic. All Fauci and other did was recommend wearing mask and social distancing as the next best thing absent a vaccine. Trust you to misrepresent the facts as per usual.

He is a publicity hound who has been wrong as often as he has been right.

You are now talking about Trump, right?

Tell it to the head of the CDC who during a congressional hearing indicated that mask wearing was as or more effective than a vaccine.  Those are the "scientists" that Trump was supposed to listen too?  LOL.  Of course, you are attempting to change the topic and go down a rabbit hole.  As best I can understand, the OP is suggesting Trump is somehow discouraging folks from taking the vaccine.  Nothing could be further for the truth.  President Trump is and has always been the main proponent of the vaccine.  To the extent anyone has expressed skepticism of the vaccine it was Harris and Cuomo.  Those are simply facts.

[Martin Weidmann]

Tell it to the head of the CDC who during a congressional hearing indicated that mask wearing was as or more effective than a vaccine.  Those are the "scientists" that Trump was supposed to listen too?  LOL.  Of course, you are attempting to change the topic and go down a rabbit hole.  As best I can understand, the OP is suggesting Trump is somehow discouraging folks from taking the vaccine.  Nothing could be further for the truth.  President Trump is and has always been the main proponent of the vaccine.  To the extent anyone has expressed skepticism of the vaccine it was Harris and Cuomo.  Those are simply facts.

To the extent anyone has expressed skepticism of the vaccine it was Harris and Cuomo.

Since when is wanting to be sure that the vaccine actually works "skepticism"?

[Richard Smith]

To the extent anyone has expressed skepticism of the vaccine it was Harris and Cuomo.

Since when is wanting to be sure that the vaccine actually works "skepticism"?

Is Trump discouraging people from taking the vaccine or not?  That seems to be the false claim of the OP.  How about at least acknowledging the obvious that Trump is the main proponent of the vaccine?  The research community does trials to determine if a vaccine is safe.  There is a scientific process for doing that.  Not a political process. Why would a politician express any skepticism when that process was being followed?  Many members of the public who heard Harris and Cuomo express such skepticism will now be reluctant to take the vaccine because this doubt has been recklessly interjected into the discussion.   

[Martin Weidmann]

Is Trump discouraging people from taking the vaccine or not?  That seems to be the false claim of the OP.  How about at least acknowledging the obvious that Trump is the main proponent of the vaccine?  The research community does trials to determine if a vaccine is safe.  There is a scientific process for doing that.  Not a political process. Why would a politician express any skepticism when that process was being followed?  Many members of the public who heard Harris and Cuomo express such skepticism will now be reluctant to take the vaccine because this doubt has been recklessly interjected into the discussion.

Why would a politician express any skepticism when that process was being followed?

When it involves Trump skepticisim is to be expected given his track record of "recommendations" on the subject, ranging from "it'll go away in April" to "let's try desinfectant - oh wait that was a joke"....

Many members of the public who heard Harris and Cuomo express such skepticism will now be reluctant to take the vaccine because this doubt has been recklessly interjected into the discussion.

Just like people died trying bleech when "somebody" we all know suggested it as a possible remedy? Is that what you mean? Stop being foolish... When this vaccine gets certified Harris and Cuomo are not going to tell the people that it is not safe to take it. That's just one more talking point that goes nowhere.

[Joe Elliott]

I'm having trouble deciphering the point of this rambling post.  It has been Trump who has been the strongest advocate of the vaccine.  He has correctly touted the vaccine as the ultimate solution to the pandemic while others - like Fauci - have falsely suggested that masks and social distancing were effective solutions.  They are clearly not as evidenced by the skyrocketing case numbers even in those states that have mandated masks and social distancing for months.  The only politicians who have cast doubt on taking the vaccine are dems like Kantala Harris and Cuomo.  Mostly suggesting it may be unsafe to advance their own political agendas.   If there was one thing that Trump was absolutely correct about, it was the vaccine.  It is Alice-in-Wonderland logic to suggest he is an impediment to anyone taking it.  And how about Fauci now advocating that kids go back to school?  Something Trump was vilified for suggesting months ago.   Fauci has played both sides against the middle.  He has support almost every position on every issue.  He is a publicity hound who has been wrong as often as he has been right.

The point of this post is to urge people to take the vaccine as soon as it is available to them. The risks of taking it outweigh the risks of not.

This was not a post about Trump although I mentioned him in passing.

Dr. Fauci will change his mind, as scientists do, with new information. It is a lot clearer now, then it was several months ago, that healthy children have a greatly reduced risk from COVID-19. And so, with the newest information, opening schools now seems relatively safe, when balanced against the risk of no school.