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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2021, 06:44:33 PM »
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So why would the CIA/military industrial complex go to all the complex trouble of assassinating JFK and setting up a patsy (i.e Oswald) and altering this autopsy footage/x-rays rather than simply film JFK in bed with someone and then release that to the press?


The public execution of people like JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King etc. is for everybody.
It teaches people to think what they're told to think.
Setting them up with prostitutes doesn't.

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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2021, 06:47:35 PM »
The public execution of people like JFK, RFK, Martin Luther King etc. is for everybody.
It teaches people to think what they're told to think.
Setting them up with prostitutes doesn't.
What did JFK "think" that needed to be silenced?

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 06:50:33 PM »
What did JFK "think" that needed to be silenced?
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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 06:50:33 PM »


Online Richard Smith

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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2021, 06:59:47 PM »
If the CIA was behind this, JFK probably would have lived.  They were never too great in the old assassination game.

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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2021, 07:02:32 PM »
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You wrote: "It teaches people to think what they're told to think". Your argument is that JFK's public execution was a message to teach people what they should think. "It" being his public assassination.

What did JFK think or say or do so that he needed to be publicly silenced or kept from the "people" so that they wouldn't think differently? In other words, publicly killing JFK sent what message to the people about their thinking? They couldn't think what? What was JFK helping make them think?

And King was assassinated in 1968. It wasn't public; there's no film, very few people were around him when he was shot. And by 1968 his goals were met; it was too late to "undo" the civil rights revolution that he started. Killing him in 1968 was too late if he needed to be silenced for his "thinking" differently.

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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2021, 07:04:49 PM »
If one has a preconceived notion one way or the other then they can try to explain the motivation of either the CIA/Mob/Military Industrial Complex, or LHO. However, Gerry makes a good point. Why would the CIA choose to get rid of JFK by assassination versus another much easier and less risky way.

And my additional point is that we are talking about the same (highly efficient - NOT) CIA/Mob/Military that tried many times and ways to get rid of little ole Fidel Castro....

Why would the CIA choose to get rid of JFK by assassination versus another much easier and less risky way.


"The CIA" as an organization did NOT murder JFK .....but bitter former operatives and agents whose careers were shattered and their bloated egos burst did plot the murder.   The BOP fiasco ruined the careers of powerful men like Dulles and Bisell, et al, and they hated JFK .  Their hatred and  their refusal to accept the fact that they had cut their own throats and ruined their careers by plotting the violent overthrow of Fidel Castro's regime. The Invasion of Cuba was a hair brained idea straight out of Nazi Germany.   It was doomed to failure as soon as JFK was sworn in as the new President.    The CIA plotters and their MOB buddies had planned for Richard Nixon to be in the White House and if he had won the election The BOP would probably have been successful , and it probably would have triggered a nuclear war.
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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2021, 07:09:17 PM »
I don't think the country is above skullduggery. I'm saying that one form of skullduggery (filming JFK in bed with someone other than his wife and releasing the footage to the press) is significantly easier to pull off than another form of skullduggery (assassinating JFK, setting up a patsy, altering autopsy photos/x-rays etc). So why not pull off the easier form of skullduggery?

We've had a fairly good recent examples of politicians that have a near teflon resistance to scandal, the Clintons, Trump, Obama, Bushes. And if you have the media on your side you can get away with almost any crime imaginable, anyone remember Iraq's WMDs? If no one reports the truth how do you know what happened?

So what if the scandal you imagined doesn't take JFK down? what if he's so charming and beloved by his base of supporters that he cannot be shifted? You've just had a recent example of a POTUS that continuously managed to maintain a 48/50% base of supporters no matter what he does. Even with the majority of media against him. It's an almost similar example: Trump/JFK disliked and battling against 'deep state' operatives and institutions ... notably the CIA

Robert Kennedy Jnr says it himself. The CIA was out to get THEM. He's quoted as pointing the finger directly at 'rogue' CIA agents.


Kennedy Jnr says it was a 75 year vendetta. Started against his grandfather, removed JFK, and RFK. If you cannot accept someone in his position. I don't know what else you need to be convinced. A member of the Kennedy family is openly going on record saying what RFK and the family believed happened to JFK.

What you are suggesting is that JFK wasn't already being blackmailed during his presidency. I think there's pretty good evidence JFK's alleged romances were being leaked to the press. This was probably part of a scheme to bring him down. How many unsubstantiated women can you think of who've been linked to JFK? It's a lot. I don't doubt there are pictures of JFK in compromising situations.

The CIA had Operation Mockingbird for a reason, under the cover of the Cold War is was able to manipulate news in USA, and abroad, for its own needs. It was admitted by the CIA in the mid 70's that they had approximately 400 'journalists' working closely with them.

CIA Focal Point System https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1995/eirv22n50-19951215/eirv22n50-19951215_040-the_focal_point_system_for_cover.pdf

There's you growing up in a world where you don't hardly ever get to hear the truth - How comes many of the assassination doubters have relied upon foreign publishers to get their work out to the American people? Stone, Lane, Mae Brussell, etc. You couldn't easily get the financial backing to voice anti lone-gunman theories in USA because the truth is suppressed, why else was the Zapruder film hidden away for so long. So much for the free press.






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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2021, 07:25:56 PM »
We've had a fairly good recent examples of politicians that have a near teflon resistance to scandal, the Clintons, Trump, Obama, Bushes. And if you have the media on your side you can get away with almost any crime imaginable, anyone remember Iraq's WMDs? If no one reports the truth how do you know what happened?

So what if the scandal you imagined doesn't take JFK down? what if he's so charming and beloved by his base of supporters that he cannot be shifted? You've just had a recent example of a POTUS that continuously managed to maintain a 48/50% base of supporters no matter what he does. Even with the majority of media against him. It's an almost similar example: Trump/JFK disliked and battling against 'deep state' operatives and institutions ... notably the CIA

Robert Kennedy Jnr says it himself. The CIA was out to get THEM. He's quoted as pointing the finger directly at 'rogue' CIA agents.


Kennedy Jnr says it was a 75 year vendetta. Started against his grandfather, removed JFK, and RFK. If you cannot accept someone in his position. I don't know what else you need to be convinced. A member of the Kennedy family is openly going on record saying what RFK and the family believed happened to JFK.

What you are suggesting is that JFK wasn't already being blackmailed during his presidency. I think there's pretty good evidence JFK's alleged romances were being leaked to the press. This was probably part of a scheme to bring him down. How many unsubstantiated women can you think of who've been linked to JFK? It's a lot. I don't doubt there are pictures of JFK in compromising situations.

The CIA had Operation Mockingbird for a reason, under the cover of the Cold War is was able to manipulate news in USA, and abroad, for its own needs. It was admitted by the CIA in the mid 70's that they had approximately 400 'journalists' working closely with them.

CIA Focal Point System https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1995/eirv22n50-19951215/eirv22n50-19951215_040-the_focal_point_system_for_cover.pdf

There's you growing up in a world where you don't hardly ever get to hear the truth - How comes many of the assassination doubters have relied upon foreign publishers to get their work out to the American people? Stone, Lane, Mae Brussell, etc. You couldn't easily get the financial backing to voice anti lone-gunman theories in USA because the truth is suppressed, why else was the Zapruder film hidden away for so long. So much for the free press.

Excellent post, Robert!.....  Those who wanted JFK out of the way were reported to have said...."Those G--- D--- Kennedy's they are beginning a Kennedy dynasty,  After Jack,  there's Bobby, and then Ted....The only way to stop them is to shoot him out of office."

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Re: How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2021, 07:25:56 PM »