LHO's shirt

[John Iacoletti]

That is a ludicrous narrative.  Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt?  No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.  They had his rifle at the crime scene along with fired bullet casings.  His goose was cooked.  Combined with his flight, involvement in another murder, resisting arrest, and lie about not owning a rifle there was more than sufficient evidence to convict.

Speaking of ludicrous narratives...

You have done zero to demonstrate that any of these speculative claims are actually true: “his rifle”, “his flight”, “involvement in another murder”, resisting arrest”, “lie about not owning a rifle”.

Garbage in - garbage out.

[Martin Weidmann]

That is a ludicrous narrative.  Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt?  No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.  They had his rifle at the crime scene along with fired bullet casings.  His goose was cooked.  Combined with his flight, involvement in another murder, resisting arrest, and lie about not owning a rifle there was more than sufficient evidence to convict.  Your baseless fantasy with the shirt is unnecessary and ridiculous to convict.   And the fibers could always have gotten on the rifle from some contact with the shirt on a prior occasion.  Not necessarily on the day of the assassination.  It doesn't have to mean he was wearing the shirt that day.  It just adds another link between Oswald and this rifle.  The evidence links him to the rifle with or without the fiber evidence.  And that rifle was used to commit the crime.  But perhaps that is more than you can absorb.

Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt? No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.

Well, they did go to the extreme length of actually taking out the shirt to Bledsoe's house. What possible reason could they have had for influencing a witness in that way?

And the fibers could always have gotten on the rifle from some contact with the shirt on a prior occasion.  Not necessarily on the day of the assassination.  It doesn't have to mean he was wearing the shirt that day.

But that was the point of the exercise; to support the conclusion that Oswald had been wearing the shirt that day!

It just adds another link between Oswald and this rifle.

No it doesn't actually. Not by using your own "logic", when all they could say is that the fibers could have come from Oswald's shirt and when it is possible for those fibers could have gotten on the rifle "on a prior occassion"

The evidence links him to the rifle with or without the fiber evidence.

I probably won't get a straight answer (again) but I'll ask anyway. What evidence exactly links Oswald to the rifle?

And that rifle was used to commit the crime.

Really? And your evidence for that is... what exactly?

[John Iacoletti]

And that rifle was used to commit the crime.

Really? And your evidence for that is... what exactly?

It’s just more of that famous “Richard” speculation bus.

[Walt Cakebread]

That is a ludicrous narrative.  Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt?  No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.  They had his rifle at the crime scene along with fired bullet casings.  His goose was cooked.  Combined with his flight, involvement in another murder, resisting arrest, and lie about not owning a rifle there was more than sufficient evidence to convict.  Your baseless fantasy with the shirt is unnecessary and ridiculous to convict.   And the fibers could always have gotten on the rifle from some contact with the shirt on a prior occasion.  Not necessarily on the day of the assassination.  It doesn't have to mean he was wearing the shirt that day.  It just adds another link between Oswald and this rifle.  The evidence links him to the rifle with or without the fiber evidence.  And that rifle was used to commit the crime.  But perhaps that is more than you can absorb.

Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt

Because they had skewered themselves on their own foil when Hoover announced that his FBI lab had found a tuft of fibers from the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was arrested.   That was a gargantuan lie because Lee was not wearing that shirt at the TSBD that morning.   But the FBI had to trick the senile Mrs Bledsoe into confirming that she saw the shirt when Lee was wearing it on the bus just minutes after the murder.

Can you understand it now ??..... If not, maybe someone will dumb it down better so perhaps you can understand, Mr "Smith"

[Richard Smith]

Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt

Because they had skewered themselves on their own foil when Hoover announced that his FBI lab had found a tuft of fibers from the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was arrested.   That was a gargantuan lie because Lee was not wearing that shirt at the TSBD that morning.   But the FBI had to trick the senile Mrs Bledsoe into confirming that she saw the shirt when Lee was wearing it on the bus just minutes after the murder.

Can you understand it now ??..... If not, maybe someone will dumb it down better so perhaps you can understand, Mr "Smith"

HA HA HA.  Try to think for once.  Assume the fetal position in a dark place if that helps.  It is Oswald's rifle.  It is Oswald's shirt.  Simply because they found a "tuft of fiber from the shirt" on the rifle doesn't meant that fiber had to come from that shirt on the day of the assassination.  Maybe it did but it doesn't have too.  Can you understand that obvious fact?  The fiber could have come from Oswald's shirt on some prior occasion.  There is no need to go through the trickery that you have baselessly suggested to fix any problem with the evidence. 

[Walt Cakebread]

HA HA HA.  Try to think for once.  Assume the fetal position in a dark place if that helps.  It is Oswald's rifle.  It is Oswald's shirt.  Simply because they found a "tuft of fiber from the shirt" on the rifle doesn't meant that fiber had to come from that shirt on the day of the assassination.  Maybe it did but it doesn't have too.  Can you understand that obvious fact?  The fiber could have come from Oswald's shirt on some prior occasion.  There is no need to go through the trickery that you have baselessly suggested to fix any problem with the evidence.

It is Oswald's rifle.

Really?? ....When and where, was proof of ownership presented ?



It is Oswald's shirt.

Yes but it is NOT the shirt that he wore at the TSBD that morning.    How thick is your skull??

Simply because they found a "tuft of fiber from the shirt" on the rifle doesn't meant that fiber had to come from that shirt on the day of the assassination.  Maybe it did but it doesn't have too.  Can you understand that obvious fact? 

Oh boy are you dumb!!....  The FBI said the tuft of fibers were FRESH....

I guess desperation causes stupidity ...... Or are you living proof that there ain't no remedy for stupidity....

[John Iacoletti]

HA HA HA.  Try to think for once.  Assume the fetal position in a dark place if that helps.  It is Oswald's rifle. 

HA HA HA.

[Walt Cakebread]

HA HA HA.

that rifle was used to commit the crime.

Well, By Golly For once you are right.... But it was not the crime of the murder of JFK....It was the crime of framing an innocent patsy by the authorities.


Unfortunately for them, ( and fortunately for us) Tom Alyea's camera captured the scene of the rifle lying on it's left side on the floor.    The preceding scene from Alyea's film shows DPD detective Studebaker perched atop boxes of books just after he finished taking the in situ photo of the carcano.    Since the next scene on Alyea's film shows the rifle lying on it's left side with the leather sling up as Detective Day reaches out to pick up the rifle we can be absolutely certain that the in situ photo that detective Studebaker had taken showed the rifle lying on it's left side.



What's the point you ask.....   The official DPD in Situ Photo depicts an entirely different scene..... The official government approved in situ phot shows the rifle in a location that is closer to the stairs and the rifle is NOT lying on it's side.   And Furthermore....Tom Alyea said that it was obvious that the hiding place had been prepared BEFORE the shooting.