Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

In the pix we can see that a puny chrome stripe over thin sheet steel can stop a handgun slug.
The JFK limo had a big chrome trim (usually stainless steel)(very hard) over a say 3" by 1.5" steel tube (much tougher than the sheet steel of the door in the pix), & Hickey's AR15 slug was a say 55grain hollow point & not full metal jacket. Dent shown in bottom pix.

As can be seen a thin flimsy bit of chromed strip can stop a bullet. No penetration.

[Royell Storing]

As can be seen a thin flimsy bit of chromed strip can stop a bullet. No penetration.

    We are discussing the Possible DAMAGE inflicted by an AR-15. Not a "handgun".

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

    We are discussing the Possible DAMAGE inflicted by an AR-15. Not a "handgun".

Yes. But i could not find a pix of an AR15 strike on a chrome stainless steel strip.
My pix of the handgun strike shows that a chrome strip (probly mild steel not stainless in that pix) has a lot of stopping power.
The best thing that anyone can do today is to make an exemplar of the jfklimo windshield & test a hollow point AR15 strike (which will not penetrate the chrome trim)(which will show that Hickey made the dent).

[Jim Hawthorn]

As can be seen a thin flimsy bit of chromed strip can stop a bullet. No penetration.

It's about time this came up again as it is so important. It does like a complete bullet buried itself there and compressed along its centerline (looks like you can actually see the flattened bullet there).
Obviously not a fragment of a bullet fired from the 6th floor of the TSBD (downward shot).

The windscreen impact/hole happened earlier because we can see it in the Altgens photo (at the moment of the back/neck shot) - so not from the theorised Hickey accident.
So which shot caused that windscreen impact LNers?

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

It's about time this came up again as it is so important. It does like a complete bullet buried itself there and compressed along its centerline (looks like you can actually see the flattened bullet there).
Obviously not a fragment of a bullet fired from the 6th floor of the TSBD (downward shot).

The windscreen impact/hole happened earlier because we can see it in the Altgens photo (at the moment of the back/neck shot) - so not from the theorised Hickey accident.
So which shot caused that windscreen impact LNers?

There are lots of youtubes showing an AR15 etc hollow point impakting a flat plate peeling into lots of radial fingers plus much lead splatter plus almost zero remnant slug.
The cracked windshield glass was made by the remnant slug of the jfk headshot (Hickey's last shot).
An Oswald fragment could not have caused the crack nor the dent (these would need a giant veer)(in jfk's head).

[John Mytton]

  SA Hickey is alleged to have stood up from his seated position while also turning at the waist. The AR-15 in his hands would have been pointed in several different directions during this same time period.

JohnM

[John Mytton]

The windscreen impact/hole happened earlier because we can see it in the Altgens photo (at the moment of the back/neck shot) - so not from the theorised Hickey accident.
So which shot caused that windscreen impact LNers?

Hi Jim, could you please point out where you see the "windscreen impact/hole" in Altgens 6, because I'm having trouble matching up a corresponding "windscreen impact/hole" with the actual photo taken of the "windscreen impact/hole" later that evening?



The corresponding crack can be seen in Altgens 7!



And in the Oklahoma City Times newspaper later that day, Altgens 7 with the same corroborating crack, was front page news.



JohnM

[Jim Hawthorn]

Hi Jim, could you please point out where you see the "windscreen impact/hole" in Altgens 6, because I'm having trouble matching up a corresponding "windscreen impact/hole" with the actual photo taken of the "windscreen impact/hole" later that evening?

Hi John, I don't have your talent for photo illustration but the arrow here indicates the impact point viewed from the front and rear. There was a theory that what we see from the front view is part of someone behind JFK's shoulder, which seems like a good explanation, but hey presto, that light coloured zone matches the position (and the shape somewhat) of the impact viewed from the rear. What a coincidence.