Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

You need to up your game, Marjan........ we can top this.  google 'mark o'blazney meets culto'.
you're welcome+

Nope. I googled that. Nothing found. Can u give me a good link.
Praps it concerns a CIA conspiracy. The only conspiracy related to the JFK accidental homicide is the coverup.
Me myself i dont spend much time on things that happened on some other day, or outside Dealey Plaza.
Oswald took about 1 day to decide to kill JFK. He probly had a suicidal half-baked escape plan. He fired 2 shots.
Hickey accidentally shot JFK.
There was no CIA or FBI or Johnson or Mafia or Castro conspiracy, except for the coverup.
No sniper at the picket fence, or in a drain, or somewhere.

[Walt Cakebread]

Yes all of that supports my wordage that no-one saw (reported seeing) gunsmoke at the 6th floor.

However gunsmoke was seen near Queen Mary, because i suppose that there is always a little observable smoke, & as i have said in another thread Hickey fired an auto burst of 3 shots hence 3 lots of a little smoke. 

Re Dillard that article says twice that Dillard observed gunsmoke when in fact he hadnt -- smelling gunsmoke should not be called observing gunsmoke. 
And the timing of Dillard smelling gunsmoke is wrong. He could not have smelled gunsmoke until much later when the wind carried it from the location of Queen Mary at B09, or until he met the smell say halfway or something.

no-one saw (reported seeing) gunsmoke at the 6th floor.


That's because there were no shots fired from the SE corner window on the 6th floor.   And there were also no shots fired from the Queen Mary....

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

no-one saw (reported seeing) gunsmoke at the 6th floor. That's because there were no shots fired from the SE corner window on the 6th floor.   And there were also no shots fired from the Queen Mary....

It would take weeks to read all of the reports books statements etc, 99% of it contradictory. Most of the witness statements are clearly worthless-misleading-wrong-lies, & we must decide which are true, & the rare true bits are hidden in the middle of rubbish.
Oswald fired at Z105 (hit signal arm) & Z218 (the magic bullet).
Hickey fired at Z300 to Z312 (an accidental auto burst of at least 4 shots).
In this thread & in others i have pointed out that Hickey's shots caused reactions by Agents Kinney & McIntyre & Bennett.
I have shown that Hickey could shoot JFK without having to stand fully up. 
I have shown that the Bronson film shows Hickey with an AR15 less than a second after Z313. 

We cant add anything to this saga unless we can get access to the superior 2019 copy of Bronson's 26 frames, the 20 2017 frames in Robin Unger's gallery here are very blurry. I doubt that the Museum will allow Robin to show the 2019 frames.  At present the Museum are happy to allow the public to believe that one of the 2017 Bronson frames shows that Hickey was holding his AR15 upwards at 45 deg at Z313.  However even without the help of the 2019 frames it is obvious that that frame is well after Z313. There must be some other reason why the Museum wont make the 2019 frames public.

Re gunsmoke, my comments were made in jest. In fact in addition to the many witnesses who smelled gunsmoke in Elm St there were many who said that they saw gunsmoke near Queen Mary at the time of the shots.  I had thort that the AR15 was set in burst mode which automatically fires 3 shots, but i found that there was no burst mode on the 601 model in 1963. It did have auto mode which fired at i think 400 rpm while the trigger is pressed or until u run out of ammo.

The AR15 was used for the first time on that Friday, & by lunchtime had killed the President & was never used again -- where is it today. 

Some mentions of smoke are confusing & cant be related to gunpowder, eg the word smoke was unfortunately also used to describe the explosion of JFK's head, & to describe the debris etc kicked up by bullets hitting the road & concrete.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

I am visiting some threads that mention that Agent Hickey accidentally killed JFK. 
Refutations that Hickey did it mainly employ a frame of the Bronson film that appears to show Hickey holding his AR15 at a 50deg upwards angle at the time of the shot, ie at Zapruder Z313.  The rationale being that the AR15 had to be held at say minus 5deg to (accidentally) aim at JFK's head over the windshield of Queen Mary, & 50deg upwards would miss JFK's head by a mile. 
There are some problems with thems refutations.
(1)  The timing of the Bronson frames relative to Z313 is uncertain. 
(2)  Some of Bronson's frame to frame time gaps are equivalent to say 5 Zapruder gaps.  Many Bronson gaps are equivalent to say 2 Zapruder frames (despite Bronson being 12 fps & Zapruder 18.3 fps). 
(3)  The time to (accidentally) swing upwards from 5deg down to 45deg up need not take more than say 1 Zapruder frame, if the upswing is helped by the natural recoil.
(4)  Kenneth S Weissman says that the 2019 copies of the Bronson film frames are superior to the 2017 copies (which are very blurry & have artifacts).  Frame UYB09 (2017) is usually the frame employed by refutationalists (RobIn Unger's gallery shows his low-res copies of the 2017 frames).  Weissman says that UYB09 (2019) does not show that there (50deg) rifle.   However i definitely see a blurry AR15 at  50deg (see Weissman's pix below).
https://topekatornado.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/the-Bronson-Kennedy-assasination-film-investigation-Report.v2.1.pdf
(5)  The Museum keep the 2019 frames locked away.  The Museum are well aware that anti-Hickey refutationists employ the inferior 2017 frames.  The Museum are of course the Chief anti-Hickeyians. Today they are happy that their 2017 frames supposedly deny that Hickey shot JFK, while secretly knowing that their 2019 frames do not deny. 
(6)  The 6th Floor Museum's fear is not limited to the loss of their holy 2017 refutation canon, they dread that the 2019 frames support Hickeyianity.  We will never see the 2019 frames in Robin Unger's Gallery.


From Weissman's Report : Bronson UYB09 (2017) is on the left :  Bronson B12 (2019) is on the right (B12 is the hi-res version of the low-res UYB09).
https://sites.google.com/view/bronson-ar15-inframe11/home
I reckon that B12 (2019) shows a blurry AR15 at  50deg, blurry partly because it is swinging swiftly (upwards), the fatal shot being a fraction of a second earlier.
Hence B12 (2019) does not absolve Hickeyians from finding an explanation, Hickeyians have to use the same explanation that was needed for UYB09 (2017). But B12(2019) has provided new ammunition for Hickeyians, the AR15 is blurry because it is swinging fastly up, having already done the dirty deed.  Luckily enuff the ugly artifact in B09 (2017) has nicely magnified the true existence of the AR15, otherwise we might have missed seeing the swiftly swinging AR15 in B12 (2019).

Actually it is Weissman that called it an artifact, but it aint. It does however magnify the dark shape of the swiftly swinging (upwards) AR15. 
The dark bit on the end might be an artifact, a blob. This is where the skinny steel sticks out beyond the wood. This kind of blob is like many others seen on the grass nearby in B09 (2017). This might be an attack of the blobs, or it might not.
 
And while we are digesting all of that we can dwell on the fact that the 2017 frames show that Hickey lied. Hickey testified that he didnt grab the AR15 from the floor untill after the last shot,  well after, near the underpass (at about Z480 i suppose).  I can see the AR15 in a few 2017 frames, & i expect that the 2019 frames will show the same, only better.  But the Museum wont tell visitors any of that (hey everyone, look over there, look at the nice big photos of the assassin). 
It was rotten luck, he was just doing his job.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

My theory that Hickey fired up to 6 accidental auto shots & that JFK was hit by shot-1 is not possible,
koz we can see Hickey sitting (high up) on his 2 leather cases in Bronson UYB09, & we know that UYB09 is equal timewise to Z319.
This timeline gives Hickey time to fire only 1 or 2 shots tween Z313 & Z319, ie whilst standing at Z313 & falling & sitting (high up) at Z319.
Hence the only way to make a 6-shot burst fit the timeline is to have JFK being hit by the last shot, shot-6.
Shot-1 had more appeal, but shot-6 will have to do.
It means that Hickey (& the AR15) was falling forwards (& swinging down) during the burst, Hickey being "saved" by O'Donnell in the jump seat.

There are 19 good frames in Unger's Bronson sequence (UYB20 is too blurry),& we are told that these run at an average of 12 fps.
Zapruder runs at 18.3 fps, hence the 19 frames are equivalent timewise to 28.975 Zapruder frames.
We know from measurements of the scenery passing by that the 19 frames skip at 5 locations, where in effect a total of 6 frames are "missing".
Hence we can consider the 19 to be 25 frames, & these 25 can be considered to be equivalent to 28.975 Zapruder frames.
Hence 1 Zapruder frame is on average equal to 1.16 Bronson frames.
The AR15 fires at say 400 rpm which is 6.666 rps.  Hence 1 Zapruder frame equals timewise 0.364 shots.
We know that Bronson UYB09 is at the same time as Z319 approx.  And we know that Hickey's shot-6 was at Z312, or at least that his last shot was at Z312.
Hence working backwards we can make the following chart, based on there being 6 shots, which shows where Hickey's shots 6 5 4 3 2 & 1 happened.
If there were only 5 shots then we can change the 6.000 to 5.000 & deduct 1.000 down the column, in which case shot-1 would have been tween Z302 & Z303 instead of tween Z299 & Z300.
So, here is my chart showing the timeline for  Hickey's 6-shot accidental auto burst.
UYB06A.36 & UYB02A.72 happen to fall on a dummy frame placed at a skip, the A denotes a dummy frame.
There were 6 dummy frames, which i called B02A B06A B08A B12A B15A & B15B. And they have been placed before frames UYB02 UYB06 UYB08 UYB12 & UYB15.

shot ... zapruder frame ....... Bronson frame
…….... ………… Z319 ………… ………… UYB09
………. ………… Z318 ………… ………… UYB08.84
………. ………… Z317 ………… ………… UYB07.68
………. ………… Z316 ………… ………… UYB06.52
………. ………… Z315 ………… ………… ...B06A.36
……... ………… Z314 ………… ………… UYB05.20
6.000 ………… Z313 ………… ………… UYB04.04
5.636 ………… Z312 ………… ………… UYB02.88
5.272 ………… Z311 ………… ………… ...B02A.72
4.908 ………… Z310 ………… ………… UYB01.56
4.544 ………… Z309 ………… ………… UYB00.40
4.180 ………… Z308 ………… ………… UYB-00.76
3.816 ………… Z307 ………… ………… UYB-01.92
3.452 ………… Z306 ………… ………… UYB-03.08
3.088 ………… Z305 ………… ………… UYB-04.24
2.724 ………… Z304 ………… ………… UYB-05.40
2.360 ………… Z303 ………… ………… UYB-06.56
1.996 ………… Z302 ………… ………… UYB-07.72
1.632 ………… Z301 ………… ………… UYB-08.88
1.268 ………… Z300 ………… ………… UYB-10.04
0.904 ………… Z299 ………… ………… UYB-11.20

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Here are my Bronson frames of Queen Mary (from Unger's gallery).  UYB01 & UYB20 are not shown, these are too blurry.
I have tried to keep Queen Mary central in every frame but i found that there is too much distortion or something.
At a later date i will try to improve these somehow so that Hickey's portion of Queen Mary stays put & we can see better whether Hickey gets higher or lower.
Notice Hickey standing upish at UYB07 (top of head is a half head lower than standing Agents.
Actually he is falling backwards in UYB07.
His last shot at Z313 was at UYB04 ie 4 frames before UYB07 ie about 0.25 sec earlier.
Sitting high up on 2 leather cases with AR15 at 50 deg at UYB09 (top of head is one head lower than standing Agents).
Sitting high up with AR15 at 85 deg at UYB11.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Here is a giff of Queen Mary in my 19 2017 Bronson frames from Robin Unger's gallery.
The Museum wont make their superior 2019 frames public.



After the 19 Bronson frames we get Queen Mary in my 37 Nix frames (starting with N34 ending with N70). I dont know how much time there is tween B19 & N34.



Here is Robin Unger's Muchmore giff.
It fits somewhere tween the Bronson giff & the Nix giff. I dont know exactly where.
It doesnt show much of Queen Mary & it shows zero of Ready & Co, but it does show driver Kinney looking hard right.