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Offline Mike Orr

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Silvia Duran and the CIA
« on: February 26, 2021, 05:20:32 AM »
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Why did the CIA want Silvia Duran arrested on November 23 , 1963 , the day after JFK was assassinated ?

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Silvia Duran and the CIA
« on: February 26, 2021, 05:20:32 AM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Silvia Duran and the CIA
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2021, 09:43:28 PM »
Why did the CIA want Silvia Duran arrested on November 23 , 1963 , the day after JFK was assassinated ?

Why did the CIA Hoover want Silvia Duran arrested on November 23 , 1963 , the day after JFK was assassinated ?

Because Hosty had spilled the beans and opened a can-o- worms when he asked Lee oswald if he had been to Mexico City....

The original plan was to make it appear that Castro was behind the murder of JFK, and Lee had received money from the Cuban embassy to purchase the weapon he needed to kill JFK.    When Khrushchev ordered nuclear bombers into the air*** at the first report of the murder of JFK  LBJ panicked  ( we are alive because he did) ...Thus Washington wanted to sweep the Cuban Consulate episode under the rug post haste....and Hoover requested that the Mexican President have Sylvia arrested and held in communicato   so she couldn't reveal the story about Lee being at the Cuban consulate....Washington was peeing down their leg because they were afraid that reporters might get wind of the original plot   

***  Khrushchev knew of the plot to murder JFK, ( his spies had learned of the plot)  and he knew that the war hawks in the Pentagon, who JFK had curtailed, would prod LBJ to attack the Soviet Union.  Thus Khrushchev  was prepared and he ordered the nuke bombers into the air.

PS Khrushev had attempted to warn JFK about the plot ....but JFK thought he could outsmart the culprits by placing one of them right in front of him in the Limo.....  He order Yarborough to ride in another car and told John Connally to take the seat directly in front of him.   JFK underestimated the cunning and cold desperation of LBJ.....


Hosty had spilled the beans and opened a can-o- worms when he asked Lee Oswald if he had been to Mexico City...

Hosty knew of the plot to frame Lee Oswald, and make it appear as if Lee was working for Fidel Castro... thus he wanted to get the ball rolling ASAP....when he told Captain Fritz to ask Lee about Mexico City.

When Hosty arrived at the DPD at about 2:45 pm he immediately told DPD detective Jack Revill that a communist named Lee Oswald had killed Kennedy.  Hosty said that the FBI knew that Lee Oswald was capable of killing JFK but they had doubts that he would actually do it.     In just a couple of hours The amazing Hosty had solved the case.
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Silvia Duran and the CIA
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2021, 06:27:21 AM »
What is really strange is that according to Duran "Oswald" [put in quotes because I doubt it was Lee] visited and returned to see her SIX different times. There were supposedly brand new CIA surveillance cameras in operation focused on the Cuban Embassy doors and there was not one single photo that was released of Lee Harvey Oswald. 

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Silvia Duran and the CIA
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2021, 03:09:58 PM »
What is really strange is that according to Duran "Oswald" [put in quotes because I doubt it was Lee] visited and returned to see her SIX different times. There were supposedly brand new CIA surveillance cameras in operation focused on the Cuban Embassy doors and there was not one single photo that was released of Lee Harvey Oswald.

there was not one single photo that was released of Lee Harvey Oswald.

Of course not.... At that point they were desperate to crush the tale that Lee Oswald had acted as an agent of Fidel Castro....

Hoover had decided that they needed to feed the pissants the tale that Lee was a lone nut.... A lone nut had no accomplices and no motive for murdering the president.

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Re: Silvia Duran and the CIA
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2021, 03:14:49 PM »
What is really strange is that according to Duran "Oswald" [put in quotes because I doubt it was Lee] visited and returned to see her SIX different times. There were supposedly brand new CIA surveillance cameras in operation focused on the Cuban Embassy doors and there was not one single photo that was released of Lee Harvey Oswald.

Of course they weren't released. The public was not supposed to even know that there was a secret camera installation monitoring the cuban consulate. If they released the photo, the installation wouldn't be a secret anymore.

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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Silvia Duran and the CIA
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2021, 02:37:18 AM »
Silvia Duran testified that Oswald came to the Consulate three times. The evidence is that it was twice on Friday (September 27, 1963) and again on Saturday.

From her HSCA Testimony:
CORNWELL - Directing your attention than to approximately late September of 1963, as we learned from you the other day, a man came to the Consulate, a man who you later associated with pictures in the newspaper and a name in the newspaper of the alleged assassin of the President. Is that correct?
TIRADO - Yes.
CORNWELL - Do you remember how many times he came to the Consulate?
TIRADO - Three times.

Oswald was told by Duran that he needed to show his Soviet visa before she could give him a transit visa. So over two days - and several hours - he went to the Soviet Embassy to request a visa. There he met three senior KGB officers who were also working as Embassy staffers. All said the man they met was Lee Oswald. They also said that Oswald was behaving erratically and pulled out his revolver and waved it around saying he needed it for protection. If that was an Oswald impostor why in the world would he draw close attention to himself by acting like that?

One of them, Oleg Nechiporenko, later wrote a book called "Passport to Assassination." Again, he says the man was Oswald.

Two Australian women - Pamela Mumford and Patricia Winston - were on a bus to Mexico City on a vacation. Both said they met Oswald on that bus.

Mumford's testimony is here: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/mumford.htm

Oswald's Cuban transit visa application is below. It's Oswald. And the signature was identified as being his.


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Silvia Duran and the CIA
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2021, 06:52:06 AM »
Of course they weren't released. The public was not supposed to even know that there was a secret camera installation monitoring the cuban consulate. If they released the photo, the installation wouldn't be a secret anymore.
So what? What public? A silly post if I've ever read one. Did you make that up? :D
Did you ever see this before...Oswald at the Russian embassy----

Nothing secret there?
https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Oswald_in_Mexico_City.html

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Silvia Duran testified that Oswald came to the Consulate three times.
OK I mis-stated but what I meant is three times in and 3 times out = 6 times ---is that better? And still no picture of LHO. 

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Re: Silvia Duran and the CIA
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2021, 03:57:04 PM »
Duran testified that when Oswald was told he could not get a transit visa at that time that "he became highly agitated and angry...He was red and he was almost crying, and uh he was insisting and insisting...[Azcue] opened the door and told Oswald to go away..

Azcue tesitifed that the man "was very anxious we grant him the visa...We never had any individual that was so insistent or persistent...He was never friendly...He accused us of being bureaucrats and in a very discourteous manner..."

Someone impersonating another person wouldn't, it seems obviously, act this way. Go back multiple time? Isn't once enough? And then act in an outward way that draws great attention to yourself?

Further: Handwriting experts for the WC and HSCA concluded that the signature on the hotel register at the hotel in MC he stayed at belonged to Oswald. The hotel manager and the maid both identified Oswald as being there. The desk clerk and the night watchman both identified Oswald as the American (a rarity they said) who stayed there. The owner of a nearby restaurant identified Oswald as the American who had eaten several meals there. Oswald wrote in a letter he sent to the Soviet Embassy that he went to MC and visited the Cuban consulate...on and on and on....

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Re: Silvia Duran and the CIA
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