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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Newman Says Phillips Was Not Bishop
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2021, 05:53:12 PM »
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He did not address this.

Agreed.

Doesn't make sense to me either.

I have always thought the "JFK had to be killed" (for whatever reason) argument is weak. If every faction that disagreed with a President "had" to kill him, there would be a lot more assassinations.
The "Connect Oswald to Cuba and then blame Castro and then justify an invasion" argument makes some sense on the surface. Newman points to Operation Northwoods a great deal as the template for the Pentagon's acts. Let's be honest here: that Northwoods proposal was absolutely disgusting. Lemnitzer, who signed off on it, should have been fired. And anyone who suggested it too. That's right out of the Third Reich.

But nothing happened. The investigation cleared Castro (and any conspiracy; foreign or domestic) and it was Win Scott and the CIA in Mexico City that exposed the allegations that Oswald worked with Cuban agents as being groundless. Morley cites Phillips vouching for Alvarado's credibility re seeing Oswald accept money at the Consulate; but that's pretty weak sauce. So there's no "there there".

Thanks for your work. Some professional-grade stuff.
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Re: Newman Says Phillips Was Not Bishop
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2021, 07:16:25 PM »
The "Connect Oswald to Cuba and then blame Castro and then justify an invasion" argument makes some sense on the surface. Newman points to Operation Northwoods a great deal as the template for the Pentagon's acts. Let's be honest here: that Northwoods proposal was absolutely disgusting. Lemnitzer, who signed off on it, should have been fired. And anyone who suggested it too. That's right out of the Third Reich.

But nothing happened. The investigation cleared Castro (and any conspiracy; foreign or domestic) and it was Win Scott and the CIA in Mexico City that exposed the allegations that Oswald worked with Cuban agents as being groundless. Morley cites Phillips vouching for Alvarado's credibility re seeing Oswald accept money at the Consulate; but that's pretty weak sauce. So there's no "there there".

Thanks for your work. Some professional-grade stuff.

Thank you Steve and thanks for your always insightful comments.

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Re: Newman Says Phillips Was Not Bishop
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2021, 08:35:26 PM »
Thank you Steve and thanks for your always insightful comments.

Let's be honest here: that Northwoods proposal was absolutely disgusting. Lemnitzer, who signed off on it, should have been fired. And anyone who suggested it too. That's right out of the Third Reich.

I could not be more in harmony with you Mr G.....  But that's our CIA....Which is about as un-American as possible.

Apparently you are unaware of the false flag operation that was supposed to coincide with the landings at BOP......  The CIA had selected some slow witted Cuban exile kids and told them that they were going to be "Special Commandos "but didn't tell them what their "special mission" was until they had embarked aboard a CIA ship  and were safely out to sea.  Then their CIA handlers told them that they were going to attack a Castro Army outpost as a diversion to draw Castro's forces away from BOP.
And to create confusion among Castro's troops in the outpost encampment they would be dressed in Castros troops uniforms.  With one difference ....The Special commandos would be wearing colored neckerchiefs so they would be able to identify themselves.   

In reality the CIA had planned to trick JFK into sending in the Marines  because the "Castro army outpost encampment" was actually a US marine sentry post on the back side of Gitmo.   The CIA had planned to kill a couple of US marines and leave some of the "Special Commandos" dead bodies as proof that Castro had attacked and killed the marines.     

Just as you've pointed out that "Operation Northwoods" was straight from Hitler's play book.....   The above should remind you of How Hitler started WWII with his attack on Poland in September of 1939.


I believe the plot is revealed in the book   "The Fish Is Red"
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Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: Newman Says Phillips Was Not Bishop
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2021, 07:48:16 PM »
Thank you Steve and thanks for your always insightful comments.

What a con this has all been.  What can one say?

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Newman Says Phillips Was Not Bishop
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2021, 08:05:36 PM »
   oh, well..... good to see you back   et 'en forme'

I don't know where else to put this. Author Robert D. Morrow pushed this photo of detained witness on 11/22 as "proof" Phillips was in Dallas. The man with the pencil above his ear was actually Kenneth Glenn Wilson.

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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/cowtown.txt
THE COWTOWN CONNECTION
                                  by M. Duke Lane
...If one researcher discovers something, even in error, we are apparently
permitted to cite that person's work, without certification, as established
fact. Many people complain when their own theories are held up to the same
critical light as we hold the official investigations, as if we aren't
beholden to the same burden of proof we assign them.

There has even been recent argument on both sides of this issue regarding
whether researchers' conclusions ought to be held up to critical peer review
or whether we should be allowed to follow our intuition and reach reasonable
conclusions... which can't be anything more than speculation, by
definition.[2] That we accept such speculation and/or incomplete
investigation as "fact" is exemplified by Robert Morrow's recently published
First Hand Knowledge (FHK),[3] in which he suggests that an apparent CIA
operative was detained in Fort Worth only a couple of hours after Kennedy's
assassination.

FHK is, by most people's estimation, a reprint of Morrow's earlier Betrayal,
this time, however, naming names and adding new information. One piece of
this "new information" is that an "unidentified suspect" taken into custody
in Fort Worth, 30 miles west of Dallas, was, in fact, David Atlee Phillips, a
former CIA operative who was based in Mexico City while Lee Harvey Oswald was
purportedly visiting Soviet and Cuban embassies in that city, and/or the
"Maurice Bishop" character said to be Cubans refugees' CIA contact for the
Bay of Pigs operation. What, the reader must wonder, was this man--of all
people--doing in that place at that time? This is information with curious
implications indeed!

As evidence of Phillips' apparent complicity in the murder, Morrow includes a
photo of Phillips beside the House Assassinations Committee's sketch of
"Bishop," which many researchers agree look strikingly similar. The photo is
included with the Phillips and "Bishop" pictures. The man, Morrow asserts,
bears an "uncanny resemblance" to Phillips/Bishop. Even while the angles of
the men's faces are different, making a direct comparison difficult if not
impossible, there does indeed appear to be a resemblance between them.

What was Phillips/Bishop doing in Fort Worth? The reader is left to wonder,
for Morrow cites Gary Shaw and Larry Ray Harris' Cover-Up[4] to state that no
record of this man's arrest exists and, in fact, the negatives of the
pictures taken of the arrest have disappeared from the files of The Fort
Worth Star-Telegram. Who but the government could manage such an obvious
cover-up, one must wonder. Who indeed?

Since I live near Fort Worth, I decided to look into this. This article will
take the reader roughly through the steps of my investigation into this
question. In the end, we will find that not only was Morrow "reaching," but
also that previous information was incomplete at best. While I cannot
possibly clear Phillips from any sort of involvement in the Bay of Pigs
episode or the Kennedy hit, it is quite clear that he was NOT the man in the
photo Morrow uses to implicate him. This is perhaps an abject lesson for the
reader not to take everything he reads at face value, no matter what the
credentials of an author may seem to be....

I've been using this image comparison demo tool since last fall. It is the most reliable one I've tried. If you try it, click on the middle option, "verification", and load two images.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/cognitive-services/face/#demo
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