Et tu, Bonnie?

[Alan J. Ford]

Buell Frazier claimed, some years ago, that he was still standing on the stairs of the TSBD when, about 15 minutes after the shooting, he saw Oswald coming down North Houston street and going down Elm. He figured Oswald had left the building at the back and was going to get lunch.

Interesting @ 15 minutes post-assassination time. Thanks for sharing this gem. So much for the phantom encounter at 10th & Patton across town. The wrongly accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

[Alan J. Ford]

Who claimed such a thing, Mr Smith?

A very interesting question there, Mr. Ford, no great surprise considering the source....All ears here Mr. Smith as we await your source. Please spare us that it was one of the two lying rooftop tandem. A legitimate source void of more horse manure from the lying rooftop tandem should suffice.

[Alan J. Ford]

Did not. Were not.

Way to set the record straight there, Mr. Freeman, the wrongly accused was framed. It's that simple really. The absolute truth requires no revision(s), stop-watches, do-overs, etc. Only a hastily contrived script needs revision, do-overs, etc.

[Alan J. Ford]

Like there's any evidence that he "retrieved his revolver" at the rooming house.  WC apologists just love to state assumptions as facts.

You mean those "extra bullets" that were "found" in his pocket hours after he was arrested?

Hear! hear! soooo worthy of a rousing round of applause there, Mr. Iacoletti, what an astute assessment of the planted "evidence". 

[Alan J. Ford]

It wasn't my point, and I underlined nothing.

Now, how about you re-read the opening post on this thread a little more attentively-----------the poster is NOT claiming that Officer Baker and Mr Truly couldn't have opened the latch, they are simply asking how it could be that Officer Wiseman saw the latch on when he went upstairs.

It all comes down to a timing question: how soon after the shooting did Officer Wiseman go up there?

An excellent point at "timing" sequence, Yes!!!!!

[Alan J. Ford]

Who were these "18 or 19 others" who left the building right after the shooting?

I've never heard about a single person who was in the building who left shortly after the shooting. And certainly not "18 or 19".

The only person that I am aware of who was in the building at the time of the shooting and left afterwards - without permission from the police hours later - was Oswald.

On the contrary there, the wrongly accused left with full permission ---->

"Well, there was a billy love lady standing out there, he was on the
steps, see... And, Oswald was coming out the door and he (Lovelady,
S.M.) said the police had stopped Oswald and sent him back in the
building, billy love lady said that Mr. Trudy (sic) told the policeman
that Oswald was alright, that he worked there, so Oswald walked on
down the stairs."


*Source: Mr. Murphy (Sean) in 2010 sharing Mr. Jarman (James') House Select Committee on Assassinations testimony.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

On the contrary there, the wrongly accused left with full permission ---->

"Well, there was a billy love lady standing out there, he was on the
steps, see... And, Oswald was coming out the door and he (Lovelady,
S.M.) said the police had stopped Oswald and sent him back in the
building, billy love lady said that Mr. Trudy (sic) told the policeman
that Oswald was alright, that he worked there, so Oswald walked on
down the stairs."


*Source: Mr. Murphy (Sean) in 2010 sharing Mr. Jarman (James') House Select Committee on Assassinations testimony.

Nowhere in that account was Oswald given permission to leave the building and go home. Truly told Baker that he didn't need to hold Oswald there, as a suspect; but that is simply not telling Oswald he had permission to go home.

[Martin Weidmann]

Nowhere in that account was Oswald given permission to leave the building and go home. Truly told Baker that he didn't need to hold Oswald there, as a suspect; but that is simply not telling Oswald he had permission to go home.

Question for you;

According to his report, Oswald told Fritz that he left after Shelley had given permission to leave. Although it is true that Shelley denied having told Oswald personally that he could leave, we do know from other TSBD workers that Shelley did indeed gave them all permission to leave.

So, how did Oswald know that Shelley had indeed given permission for the workers to leave?