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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #136 on: August 26, 2021, 12:19:08 AM »
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All for now gentlemen, back later this week to reengage. Best wishes to all to remain well, healthy & safe, free of any potential exposure to any COVID-19 variants still lingering about. 

*self-reminder: take a much closer examination of Bureau agent Robert Barrett, his whereabouts, activities, etc on that fateful afternoon.

*Also, in the spirit of an open mind, given Mr. Cakebread's contribution, will look into the possibility of the wrongly-accused taking public transportation aside from the horse manure spread about Mr. McWatter's bus & Mr. Whaley's coerced "evidence".

Could he have taken public-transportation at a much later time? Was there a timing-sequence challenge to the hastily contrived script to overcome, thus enter the horse manure about the false means (McWatters & Whaley) purposely scripted at an earlier time to embellish the false narrative starring him at the events of 10th & Patton...

*self-reminder: take a much closer examination of Bureau agent Robert Barrett,

You'll be scrutinizing one of Hoover's lap dog's.  ( Hoover's extra special--- special agent)   I believe that you'll find that Mr Barrett was already in the Texas theater when Lee arrived there.....   If that's true...Then the logical question is:....   What the hell was he doing there??
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« Reply #137 on: August 26, 2021, 12:34:00 AM »
I seriously doubt that the transfer was in his shirt pocket at the theater because the cops nearly ripped that shirt off his back. Therefore any flimsy  paper bus transfer would not have remained in pristine condition.   

The bus transfer was not in Pristine condition and was folded, and the shirt pockets on Oswald's shirt show absolutely no sign of being torn or ripped, they are literally pristine!







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« Reply #138 on: August 26, 2021, 12:50:10 AM »
The bus transfer was not in Pristine condition and was folded, and the shirt pockets on Oswald's shirt show absolutely no sign of being torn or ripped, they are literally pristine!







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Wrong shirt ...dumb bell....   

This is NOT the reddish brown shirt with the button down collar that Lee was wearing at the TSBD that morning, and which he left in the rooming house room.   Read Detective Potts list of the items that were removed from the rooming house room.

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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #139 on: August 26, 2021, 01:19:55 AM »
Wrong shirt ...dumb bell....   

This is NOT the reddish brown shirt with the button down collar that Lee was wearing at the TSBD that morning, and which he left in the rooming house room.   Read Detective Potts list of the items that were removed from the rooming house room.

Thanks for your opinion but the shirt in evidence is the same one Oswald was wearing when arrested, In the following collage you can even count the differing shaded threads and the corresponding shaded areas. Btw what is your real purpose here and who's paying you?



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« Reply #140 on: August 26, 2021, 01:44:10 AM »
Thanks for your opinion but the shirt in evidence is the same one Oswald was wearing when arrested, In the following collage you can even count the differing shaded threads and the corresponding shaded areas. Btw what is your real purpose here and who's paying you?



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the shirt in evidence is the same one Oswald was wearing when arrested,


Duh.... Put down the jug and pay attention...

I said that the bus transfer came from the reddish brown shirt with the BUTTON DOWN COLLAR that Lee was wearing at the TSBD that morning and the shirt which he took off and left in his room at 1:00 O'clock. 

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« Reply #141 on: August 26, 2021, 02:47:49 AM »
Thanks for your opinion but the shirt in evidence is the same one Oswald was wearing when arrested, In the following collage you can even count the differing shaded threads and the corresponding shaded areas. Btw what is your real purpose here and who's paying you?



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Btw what is your real purpose here and who's paying you?

Why ask??.... You wouldn't believe me .......

But my real purpose is to expose J. Edgar Hoover as the despot that he was, on par with Adolph Hitler.....

The American taxpayer's are paying me.....

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« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2021, 04:52:14 PM »
Bill Whaley was a typical cabbie BSer.....  I suspect that his IQ was subnormal.   So while thrusting himself into the events of 11-22-63 when BSin with his fellow cabbies, he crowed that he unwittingly had carried the assassin out to Oak cliff after the assassination.  There's little doubt that he transported a young man out to Oakcliff....but that man was NOT Lee Oswald.

He was dressed entirely differently than Lee Oswald and  Whaley said the man gave him a dollar for the ride... Lee Said that he rode in a CITY cab and he paid the driver 85 cents.   (So the trip was about a tenth of a mile shorter than Whaley's trip.

An interesting read, Mr. Cakebread, thanks for sharing.

Major difference between one cab-carrier than another...not to mention Mr. Whaley's inflation of 85 cents. All-in-all your keen sense of attention to detail discounts officialdom's fictitious account amid their prevailing penchant for relying upon manufactured "evidence". Coerced as well @ Mr. Whaley ------>

Mr. WHALEY. I never saw what they had in there. It was all written out by hand. I signed my name because they said that is what I said.

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« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2021, 04:59:01 PM »
Briefly in a nut shell.....according to the tale,   Lee had a nearly pristine bus transfer in his possession at the time of his interrogation.

I seriously doubt that the transfer was in his shirt pocket at the theater because the cops nearly ripped that shirt off his back. Therefore any flimsy  paper bus transfer would not have remained in pristine condition.   

I strongly suspect that Lee got the transfer when he exited the bus and he placed it his shirt pocket.  ( he thoght that he could use it to board another bus to take him to the rooming house, but it was never used...He caught a CITY cab and rode in the cab to the rooming house.  When he changed his clothes the transfer remained in his dis card shirt pocket where it remained in good condition.  As I recall the transfer first emerges into the evidence stream at about 6:00 O'clock that evening.  This would be after Lee's possessions from the rooming house were brought to DPD headquarters.   I believe that's where the bus transfer was found. 

Lee may have originally thought that he could use the transfer after he left the rooming house to catch a bus to take him to near the theater ( Jefferson & Zangs) But he forgot the transfer that was in the shirt pocket at the rooming house.   You may recall that Mrs Roberts said that Lee was looking up Zangs. He could possibly looking to see if the south bound bus was in sight.

Once again, Mr. Cakebread, I appreciate your analysis. Though we are miles apart on the public-transportation use, I'll continue to maintain an open mind on the possibility the wrongly-accused did use public-transportation, but not with the tandem of Mr. McWatters & Mr. Whaley, nor along the timing-sequence amid a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure.

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« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2021, 04:59:01 PM »