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[Alan J. Ford]

There were three FBI agents in the Texas theater at the time that Lee was apprehended..... THIS IS A FACT!    The obvious queston is: What the hell were they doing there??   Lee allegedly  entered the theater without buying a ticket. ( probably not true ) ....But I'm compelled to ask; would that be a federal crime?
   
But let's say that Lee was being pursued by the DPD as a suspect in the shooting of JD Tippit  ...  Does the FBI get involved in the affairs of the local police ??     And I'd like to know where FBI agent James Hosty got all of the information about Lee Oswald just minutes after Lee was dragged from the theater.

 Briefly and in a nutshell .......
Just minutes after Lee's arrest Hosty told A DPD detective, Jack Revill, "Jack, A communist named Lee Oswald has shot the President. We knew that he was capable of doing it, but didn't think he would"


Bottom Line .... FBI agents at the theater.... Hosty blurting out that the FBI knew that Lee Oswald was capable of committing the assassination..... 

It would appear that Lee Oswald  "working" with the FBI .... and was in a hurry to get to the theater to meet with his agent and find out what the FBI wanted him to do if JFK had in fact been shot....

My, my, my...not one (1) agent present in the Texas Theatre, not two (2) agents, but three (3) G-men present in what the wrongly-accused considered a "safehouse". No wonder the Federal Bureau of Investigation destroyed documents relating to the wrongly-accused after President Kennedy's death...

Mr. Hosty's name and phone number was actually found in the wrongly-accused's address-book, not to mention his superior--Mr. Shanklin (Gordon)-told him to destroy a letter the wrongly-accused wrote to him. Those of us reading along here could easily bet the farm there wasn't anything in that letter incriminating the wrongly-accused at all, as much as bombshell revelations revealing information the Bureau did not wish to be viewed for public-consumption.  IF there was anything incriminating in that letter it would have been flashed across all of the major newspapers around the country & worldwide in large bold print. Mr. Shanklin's order to destroy its contents is rather telling.

The same reason those multiple interrogations over a three day period are void of audio & video recordings. "Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practise to deceive" -- Sir Walter Scott

Appreciate your contribution, Mr. Cakebread, thanks for sharing. The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

[Alan J. Ford]

Have a wonderful week everyone, this lad will retrace steps back here on Friday, the Good Lord willing.

*self-reminder: (1) reread the following link ---->

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32246608.pdf

"Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practise to deceive" -- Sir Walter Scott

(2) try to determine if there is a record of what Dallas television News Station arrived directly on scene and, particularly @ what specific time. Then compare that time w/Mr. Mentesana's home video footage recording, where the wrongly-accused is standing outside w/his supervisor, Mr. Shelley, for 5-10 minutes, and a white news-station? vehicle is captured in the same sequence to his left; and (3) review Mr. MacNeil (Robert's) timeline as well, because it has come to light that he initially got out of his news station vehicle way down near the triple-underpass, ran up the hill to the picket-fence, and climbed over it after observing a DPD officer do the same...looked around for a few minutes and then retraced his steps and headed up Elm towards the TSBD front-entrance, where he & the wrongly-accused crossed paths (12:40? instead of 12:38PM) , if so the wrongly-accused remained in Dealey Plaza much longer than my 12:48PM timeline.

[Richard Smith]

There were three FBI agents in the Texas theater at the time that Lee was apprehended..... THIS IS A FACT!    The obvious queston is: What the hell were they doing there??   Lee allegedly  entered the theater without buying a ticket. ( probably not true ) ....But I'm compelled to ask; would that be a federal crime?   

But let's say that Lee was being pursued by the DPD as a suspect in the shooting of JD Tippit  ...  Does the FBI get involved in the affairs of the local police ??     And I'd like to know where FBI agent James Hosty got all of the information about Lee Oswald just minutes after Lee was dragged from the theater.

 Briefly and in a nutshell .......
Just minutes after Lee's arrest Hosty told A DPD detective, Jack Revill, "Jack, A communist named Lee Oswald has shot the President. We knew that he was capable of doing it, but didn't think he would"


Bottom Line .... FBI agents at the theater.... Hosty blurting out that the FBI knew that Lee Oswald was capable of committing the assassination..... 

It would appear that Lee Oswald  "working" with the FBI .... and was in a hurry to get to the theater to meet with his agent and find out what the FBI wanted him to do if JFK had in fact been shot....

This is a tired, old tactic.  The FBI was obviously not involved solely on the basis of someone not buying a movie ticket.  That removes all context from this event.  Follow along.  The President of the United States was assassinated in Dallas.  About an hour later a DPD officer is shot in broad daylight a short distance away.  The first such officer to be killed in a several year span.  Anyone with a functioning brain understands that these two events are likely related.  So the search for the assassin shifts to that area.  The FBI has an interested in the person who has just assassinated the President.  They get a report of a suspicious person who has just entered the TT without buying a ticket.  So there is a person acting suspiciously in the vicinity of the Tippit murder.  If this turns out to be the person who killed Tippit, it is also in all probability the same person who assassinated JFK.  A very dangerous individual.  So they respond accordingly.  If Oswald had been innocent, then he just explains himself as the person at the library did when similarly confronted but Oswald does not have that luxury because he is guilty.  No one at the TT has a clue that their suspect is Lee Harvey Oswald or has been a person of interest to the FBI when they make the arrest.  That has nothing to do with the events until his name becomes known to the FBI after his arrest.

[Walt Cakebread]

This is a tired, old tactic.  The FBI was obviously not involved solely on the basis of someone not buying a movie ticket.  That removes all context from this event.  Follow along.  The President of the United States was assassinated in Dallas.  About an hour later a DPD officer is shot in broad daylight a short distance away.  The first such officer to be killed in a several year span.  Anyone with a functioning brain understands that these two events are likely related.  So the search for the assassin shifts to that area.  The FBI has an interested in the person who has just assassinated the President.  They get a report of a suspicious person who has just entered the TT without buying a ticket.  So there is a person acting suspiciously in the vicinity of the Tippit murder.  If this turns out to be the person who killed Tippit, it is also in all probability the same person who assassinated JFK.  A very dangerous individual.  So they respond accordingly.  If Oswald had been innocent, then he just explains himself as the person at the library did when similarly confronted but Oswald does not have that luxury because he is guilty.  No one at the TT has a clue that their suspect is Lee Harvey Oswald or has been a person of interest to the FBI when they make the arrest.  That has nothing to do with the events until his name becomes known to the FBI after his arrest.

"The President of the United States was assassinated in Dallas".  About an 33 minutes  later @ 1:06, a DPD officer is shot in broad daylight a short distance away.   "Anyone with a functioning brain understands that these two events are likely related."  HUH??...   Not many people in Dallas thought that there might be a possible connection between the murder of JFK and the murder of J.D. Tippit.  You may be one in a million Mr "Smith"....

"So the search for the assassin shifts to that area." PURE BS... Mr "Smith", The cops converged on 10th  & Patton because a brother officer had been shot.

  "The FBI has an interested in the person who has just assassinated the President."
Really ??... Mr "Smith",, Do you actually believe that the FBI had supernatural powers, and FBI agent  James Hosty immediately knew that " A communist Named Lee Oswald has shot the president. We Knew that he was capable of this, but we didn't think that he's do it"

"They get a report of a suspicious person who has just entered the TT without buying a ticket.  So there is a person acting suspiciously in the vicinity of the Tippit murder."  

 According to James Hosty in his Book  ; Assignment : Oswald .."Sometime prior to 1:25 FBI agent Bob Barrett was on the radio and reporting that a police officer had been shot and killed in Oak Cliff, and he was on his way to check it out"

That's got to be Clairvoyance at work.....  The Dallas Police are still searching the TSBD looking for a gunman , and FBI agent Bob Barret is jumping into a local crime when he should have been responding to the murder of the President.

 If this turns out to be the person who killed Tippit, it is also in all probability the same person who assassinated JFK.  A very dangerous individual.  So they respond accordingly.    

WOW!!    Isn't this a quantum leap in reasoning......What is the basis for the reasoning?   Isn't 20/20 hindsight great?

If Oswald had been innocent, then he just explains himself as the person at the library did when similarly confronted but Oswald does not have that luxury because he is guilty.         Gibberish .....pure gibberish!

No one at the TT has a clue that their suspect is Lee Harvey Oswald or has been a person of interest to the FBI when they make the arrest.  That has nothing to do with the events until his name becomes known to the FBI after his arrest.

No one at the TT knew that the man was Lee Oswald..... At 2:15 FBI agent Howe told James Hosty that the DPD had just arrested Lee Oswald at the Texas Theater.  So about 20 minutes after Lee Oswald was dragged from the theater and BEFORE he'd been questioned The Fbi knew his identity. 


So you believe that the FBI jumps into the fray that ensued when DPD officer Nick Mc Donald grabs a man who allegedly had snuck into the theater without buying a ticket.   Is that a Federal crime?

[Richard Smith]

"The President of the United States was assassinated in Dallas".  About an 33 minutes  later @ 1:06, a DPD officer is shot in broad daylight a short distance away.   "Anyone with a functioning brain understands that these two events are likely related."  HUH??...   Not many people in Dallas thought that there might be a possible connection between the murder of JFK and the murder of J.D. Tippit.  You may be one in a million Mr "Smith"....

"So the search for the assassin shifts to that area." PURE BS... Mr "Smith", The cops converged on 10th  & Patton because a brother officer had been shot.

  "The FBI has an interested in the person who has just assassinated the President."
Really ??... Mr "Smith",, Do you actually believe that the FBI had supernatural powers, and FBI agent  James Hosty immediately knew that " A communist Named Lee Oswald has shot the president. We Knew that he was capable of this, but we didn't think that he's do it"

"They get a report of a suspicious person who has just entered the TT without buying a ticket.  So there is a person acting suspiciously in the vicinity of the Tippit murder."  

 According to James Hosty in his Book  ; Assignment : Oswald .."Sometime prior to 1:25 FBI agent Bob Barrett was on the radio and reporting that a police officer had been shot and killed in Oak Cliff, and he was on his way to check it out"

That's got to be Clairvoyance at work.....  The Dallas Police are still searching the TSBD looking for a gunman , and FBI agent Bob Barret is jumping into a local crime when he should have been responding to the murder of the President.

 If this turns out to be the person who killed Tippit, it is also in all probability the same person who assassinated JFK.  A very dangerous individual.  So they respond accordingly.    

WOW!!    Isn't this a quantum leap in reasoning......What is the basis for the reasoning?   Isn't 20/20 hindsight great?

If Oswald had been innocent, then he just explains himself as the person at the library did when similarly confronted but Oswald does not have that luxury because he is guilty.         Gibberish .....pure gibberish!

No one at the TT has a clue that their suspect is Lee Harvey Oswald or has been a person of interest to the FBI when they make the arrest.  That has nothing to do with the events until his name becomes known to the FBI after his arrest.

No one at the TT knew that the man was Lee Oswald..... At 2:15 FBI agent Howe told James Hosty that the DPD had just arrested Lee Oswald at the Texas Theater.  So about 20 minutes after Lee Oswald was dragged from the theater and BEFORE he'd been questioned The Fbi knew his identity. 


So you believe that the FBI jumps into the fray that ensued when DPD officer Nick Mc Donald grabs a man who allegedly had snuck into the theater without buying a ticket.   Is that a Federal crime?

You don't think anyone made a connection between the JFK assassination and the shooting of a police officer about an hour later just a short distance away?  LOL.  People like Hugh Aynesworth jumped in a car and left the TSBD because it was so obvious that the two events were related.  No DPD officer had been murdered in years.  He is killed just a short time and distance from the JFK assassination.  Anyone with a functioning brain had good cause to suspect the two events were related and act accordingly.  I can't follow all the rest of your ramblings.

[Alan J. Ford]

(1) For those of you, with some time on your hands, who may not have already read the following testimony ---->

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95331#relPageId=8

the above link makes for some informative & interesting reading. There's certainly more to the wrongly-accused's genuine role in intelligence-affairs than has been made readily available for honest appraisal via open public consumption.

(2) For anyone interested in a more in-depth interview with Mr. Pena (Orest) ---->

https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/jfk/NARA-Oct2017/NARA-Dec15-2017/docid-32246611.pdf

*courtesy of the exemplary research of Mr. Greenewald (John, Jr.))

Courage like Mr. Pena's doesn't grow on trees, MUCH admiration & respect for his honesty & integrity (take note Mr. Frazier, Buell Wesley, time to come clean).

(3) Brief Recap:

*The wrongly-accused was still in Dealey Plaza looooong after the false narrative of a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure about getting out of Dodge via a phantom bus & cab ride (Thus nowhere near the events of 10th & Patton, let alone taking an active role in it)

**The shirt he's wearing in Mr. Mentesana's home movie reel is the same shirt he was later apprehended in at the Texas Theatre, worn in the same manner as described by Mr. Brewer (Johnny), quote, Mr. BREWER - And had brown hair. He had a brown sports shirt on. His shirt tail was out., unquote, precisely in the same manner of colour & dress--w/shirt tail out--as filmed by Mr. Mentesana much earlier that afternoon. Completing the natural hattrick is this same brown shirt makes another appearance at the wrongly-accused's midnight presser.

*** What did Mr. Pena (Orest) in his testimony mean, suggesting or implying ---->

He's got one more brother who was a high rank in the Cuban Army during the Batista regime and he was Cadre II in the training camp the CIA got here. And he got a cousin that looks similar to Oswald. [/u]

*courtesy of The Black Vault, an online repository of declassified government documents.

 

[Alan J. Ford]

*Self-reminder: Review the Dallas Police Tapes that afternoon. At issue, given the statement of one of the Dallas fire-fighters, Leslie Warnock, Jr. (working out of the Number 3 Fire Station), their fire-truck wasn't dispatched to Dealey Plaza until 1:02PM CST). If this is indeed the case, then my timeline of 12:48PM needs to be moved even further up as the wrongly-accused via Mr. Mentesana's home movie reel capture is actually standing fifteen (15) feet away from the red fire engine.

Determine how far away the Number 3 Fire Station was on 11/22/63 from Dealey Plaza...then factor in the dispatch time of 1:02PM CST (Mr. Warnock's words, not mine), travelling distance, etc. In any case, the wrongly-accused was nowhere near 10th & Patton, or boarding a phantom bus & cab ride either.  In spite of the hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure to the contrary, the wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

Back next week gentlemen to reengage the Good Lord willing. Best wishes to all to remain safe, healthy and free of any COVID-19 variant still lingering about. Godspeed.

[Walt Cakebread]

My, my, my...not one (1) agent present in the Texas Theatre, not two (2) agents, but three (3) G-men present in what the wrongly-accused considered a "safehouse". No wonder the Federal Bureau of Investigation destroyed documents relating to the wrongly-accused after President Kennedy's death...

Mr. Hosty's name and phone number was actually found in the wrongly-accused's address-book, not to mention his superior--Mr. Shanklin (Gordon)-told him to destroy a letter the wrongly-accused wrote to him. Those of us reading along here could easily bet the farm there wasn't anything in that letter incriminating the wrongly-accused at all, as much as bombshell revelations revealing information the Bureau did not wish to be viewed for public-consumption.  IF there was anything incriminating in that letter it would have been flashed across all of the major newspapers around the country & worldwide in large bold print. Mr. Shanklin's order to destroy its contents is rather telling.

The same reason those multiple interrogations over a three day period are void of audio & video recordings. "Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practise to deceive" -- Sir Walter Scott

Appreciate your contribution, Mr. Cakebread, thanks for sharing. The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

My memory isn't as good as it once was.....But I believe that one of the FBI agents who was in the Texas theater was from the New Orleans FBI office.  ( Warren  De Brueys ? ) A few years ago I could have told you the names of the FBI agents in the theater ,but I can't recall their names at the moment .