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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #112 on: June 10, 2021, 11:30:48 PM »
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Sorry Johnny boy, but Virginia along with a stack of others positively identified Oswald, and all the character assassination in the World will never change the facts.

... he says feigning confidence as if unfair, biased lineups mean a damn thing.

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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #113 on: June 10, 2021, 11:35:42 PM »
Channel 1 at 12:36 briefly broadcast on both channels and Channel 2 made time calls before and after of 12:35 and 12:37 respectively, showing a very close correlation of within a minute between the two channels.

What "correlation"?  Just because similar words were used doesn't mean they were broadcast at nearly the same time.

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And the real world connection is the 12:30 time of the assassination is corroborated by the 12:30 Dallas Police time call.

What makes you think the Hertz clock is actual time?  Do you know when and how it was calibrated?

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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #114 on: June 10, 2021, 11:37:17 PM »
"Therefore, it was not uncommon for the time stamped on calls to be a minute or two ahead or behind the "official" time shown on the master clock. Accordingly, at "exactly" 10:10, various clocks could be stamping from 10:08 to 10:12, for example." J.C. Bowles (supervisor of the DPD dispatchers)

What's hilarious is that you think this somehow limits the possible discrepancy to exactly 2 minutes or less.

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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #115 on: June 10, 2021, 11:45:35 PM »
Really, you had to completely misrepresent what I said?

If I did, then you completely misrepresented what Martin said about Bowley's watch.  And why is Dave Powers' watch automatically more precise than T.F. Bowley's?

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When he said "When clocks were as much as a minute or so out of synchronization it was normal procedure to make the needed adjustments." Also see the testimony of Frances Cason, who worked as a telephone operator in the dispatch center: "And when we find these errors in these clocks this way, someone in the office usually adjusts them to where they all are stamping the same time. It doesn't happen very often that they get out of time, but sometimes they do."

Those vague statements about what they usually did don't help determine how accurate the clocks were on 11/22/63.

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Not two clocks. Five. I can spot you one if you want to believe that the SS agents kept their watches in sync. But that's still four independent clocks in agreement.

The problem is, you don't know how independent they are unless you know what they were set to and when.  I would argue that it's more likely that Powers and Kellerman set their watches to the same source than Bowley and the Methodist Hospital.  Besides, you don't actually know what anybody's watch said because you're relying on their months old memories.

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The Dudley Hughes data as reported by the Nashes, as has already been discussed.

Yes, and it's silly.  Where's the timecard?

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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #116 on: June 19, 2021, 02:34:44 AM »
What Dudley Hughes data?

The Dudley Hughes data as reported by the Nashes, as has already been discussed.

Yes, and it's silly.  Where's the timecard?

Why is it "silly"?  Please explain.


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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #117 on: June 19, 2021, 02:40:31 AM »
All the Nashes said in their article was that the Dudley Hughes dispatcher had stamped a time card with 1:18 for the call. They did not see that card nor has that card ever surfaced. For all intent and purposes it only "exists" in the Nash article.

In other words, they tell us in their article something that's been told to them, which makes it double hearsay. And even worse, there is not a shred of evidence that confirms that the clock used by the dispatcher was accurate. This entire "time stamp card" business is nothing but hot air.


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All the Nashes said in their article was that the Dudley Hughes dispatcher had stamped a time card with 1:18 for the call.

No.

They said much more than that.


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They did not see that card nor has that card ever surfaced. For all intent and purposes it only "exists" in the Nash article.

How do you know they did not see the time card?  What makes you state this as a fact?


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In other words, they tell us in their article something that's been told to them, which makes it double hearsay.

You mean that it's hearsay, not double hearsay.  Good grief, man.

Secondly, if they saw the time card, it's not hearsay at all.

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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2021, 06:37:02 PM »
Why is it "silly"?  Please explain.

Where is the timecard?

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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #119 on: June 24, 2021, 05:09:57 AM »
Where is the timecard?

George and Patricia Nash saw it and they said the call was logged at 1:18.

Learn the case.

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Re: DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy
« Reply #119 on: June 24, 2021, 05:09:57 AM »